just got a 9700 Pro - 3dmark score? and a question

[edm]

I just pulled my geforce 2 for a 9700 Pro. I installed the cat 3.1 drivers (leaving everything to default) I scored a 10145 with the default 3d mark 2001 bench. Does that seem ok with this system (1.4 Tbird, 512Pc2100, ati radeon 9700 Pro retail)?

One number that stood out to me was the car chase seen at high detail, it only scored 38 fps, does that seem low?

One other quesion about my power suppy. After I originally installed the card/drivers everything booted up and ran fine, I probably played for two hours just testing some of my games, and had no problems what so ever. But, after shutting down the pc for a few hours I did a cold boot, winXP loaded a slow, and once the the desktop icons loaded the screen went black for about a second, my refresh rate set itself back to 60 Hz (was set to 100hz). Could this be a power supply issue? I rebooted and haven't had anymore problems since (maybe two hours).

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- Enlight 340 Watt case/ps
- K7s5a
- Athlon 1.4 Tbird
- 2x256MB Crucuail Pc2100 (512MB)
- Ati 9700 Pro retail
- Sblive value
- Dx 9.0
- 40 Gig WD 7200
- Lite-on 40x12x48
- Dvd drive
- 21" Sony Trinitron
- WinXP Pro

 

[1ManArmY]

What version of drivers did your 9700 Pro ship with and what software and/or games?

 

[edm]

Not sure what driver version it shipped with, and no games.

 

[sash1]

You're processor limited. That's fine

~Aunix

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: AunixM3
You're processor limited. That's fine

~Aunix

Ditto.

It *may* be the graphics card with the cold boot issue.

I had a TNT2 Ultra like that. It would run *perfectly* fine and then once I restart it WOULDN'T boot up for about 10-30 minutes . Changed the power supply in my case didn't help. Put the old one back.

Changed the graphics card and the system boots up EVERY single time after a restart or what not. In my case it was the graphics card.

You could try to overclock the cpu in your system. With the fast graphics card you still need to pair them up with a fast cpu to get the *best* results. Of course your system plays games well but you will need about 2GHz to get better results. Faster cpu the better it is. I'd say a 2.5GHz gives a lot more speed.

 

[J5im8yo]

I have pretty much the same set-up other than a 1700+ XP and Asus a7n8x. I scored only a mere 1111 3dmarks. For some reason I just lost 50 marks from the very first time I benchmarked. Anyway you score seem right. I don't understand why I can't get above 13k. Maybe I need a processor like 2600+ or so? You guys think?

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: J5im8yo
I have pretty much the same set-up other than a 1700+ XP and Asus a7n8x. I scored only a mere 1111 3dmarks. For some reason I just lost 50 marks from the very first time I benchmarked. Anyway you score seem right. I don't understand why I can't get above 13k. Maybe I need a processor like 2600+ or so? You guys think?

your mobo is quick no problems there.

You will need the a faster cpu. Then you will really hit the high scores.

There are other *small* optimisations you can run also. I'd advise to go over to madonion and check out the hardcore clockers there. Also are you overclocking your current card? If so not you should to get more points. Also what versions of drivers are quickest etc. Again I use to do some of this stuff but now I can't be bothered. Just overclock a bit and get a decent score so that I know its fast then I just leave it.

Try a friends faster cpu if you can. See if you notice a difference.

 

[J5im8yo]

No overclocking and driver version = 3.2.

The OpenGL and D3D setting are also at default not performance I don't know what is the best to put it. Maybe all slide to performance?

 

[SickBeast]

Man, face it, you have a chevette engine in a ferarri body. Buy one of those $60 JIUCB tbred-b chips that do 2300mhz on air. You won't regret it.

 

[J5im8yo]

I'm broke

 

[thatbox]

My 1600+ Ti4100 64MB gets 9600 3dMarks... I would think that you should be scoring higher than you are, even with that cpu.

 

[edm]

I did a cold boot this morning and it loaded normal, but I'm not sure if I'm seeing artifacts when the winXP splash screen loads, of if it's just normal breakup, I get a line or two going through it? After doing a few more re-boots I saw the slow loading again (everything seems to hang and is sluggesh after XP loads for about 30-60 seconds) it doesn't occur every reboot though.

I'm also running a duel boot and when I went into w98 (for the first time) it doesn't let me run the cat 3.1 drivers exe, I get the message "a required dll file, C:WindowssystemOLEAUT32.DLL, was not found". Also, when I click on "My computer" no icons show up, if I open the recycle bin I see no files, even though there are some in there.

Anyway, before I take a ride over to Best Buy to exchange it I'm going to do a format today, hoping it's just a driver problem. Even though I did uninstall the nvidia drivers for both OS's before I swapped cards.

Could someone please comment on my power supply? the 340 watt Enlight? could this not be enough power for my rig? Will unplugging the extra case fan I added help? And right now I have my 9700 Pro plugged into the same power cord that's going to my Hard drive (as specified in the directions), does this matter? could plugging it into it's own wire make any difference?

Thanks

 

[nick1985]

i can get around 11K stock with the rig in my sig

get an new mobo and an athlonXP somthin and you should see quite an increase

 

[BoomAM]

That seems about right, my system scores 10294 with a XP1800 and 768mc PC133.

 

[bedrocked]

try 3dmark03 to see how well your gpu is working. 3dmark01 is too reliant on you're entire system.

 

[J5im8yo]

Ok any of you guys whose score is over let say 8000 is running on 3dmark01 if you receive 8000 on 01 then on 3dmark you will probably receive somewhere around 1900-2400.

I am talking about 3dmark03 in which I score around 44xx or 43xx consistanly I guess its not bad for PC2100 and XP 1700+ on a a7n8x. The highest score I've seen for 3dmark03 is lower than 7000 and that system is totally buffed up. I mean the 9700 Pro is clocked at 440 mgz and processor near 3.6gig. I am not going to shoot for that because 3dmark03 really doesn't indicate real-life gaming performance but I have a problem.

Many others also have the same problem, 9700 Pro's 3dmark01 score is consistenly below 11k which is low for a 9700 Pro. I don't know why and this guy on rage3d is trying to figure out also. Does this mean 9700 Pro has issues with dx8 support? I doubt for it does certainly work better with dx9.

 

[edm]

I did a format, and I'm not getting any boot up problems anymore (not yet anyway). My 3dmark 2001 scored was about the same though, got 10280.

I'm having second thoughts though, with the price of the 9700 NON-PRO at $215 now, I'm starting to wonder if I should return the 9700 Pro, and get the non-pro and a AMD XP 2400+ (2.0 ghz) would be about the same price I paid for the 9700 Pro, what does everyone think?

 

[Sidulator]

Originally posted by: edm
I did a format, and I'm not getting any boot up problems anymore (not yet anyway). My 3dmark 2001 scored was about the same though, got 10280.

I'm having second thoughts though, with the price of the 9700 NON-PRO at $215 now, I'm starting to wonder if I should return the 9700 Pro, and get the non-pro and a AMD XP 2400+ (2.0 ghz) would be about the same price I paid for the 9700 Pro, what does everyone think?

Don't return it. Just use Omegas drivers. They optimise the 9800 pro driver paths in the 9700 pro. They also enable smoothvision 2.1. I'm getting around 16000 in 3dmark01 and 5400 in 3dmark03.

 

[edm]

Yes, but like someone mentioned, I am CPU limited. and since I only have about $320-$340 to spend, would I be better off with

9700 PRO and 1.4 T-burd
-or-
9700 Non pro and XP 2.0 2400+

?

btw, what version of omega drivers? and what is your processor?

thanks

 

[J5im8yo]

I am getting 4555 on 3dmark03 with Omega Driver Based on Catalyst 3.2. That is a 150 gain from the orignial ATi drivers. Which is not bad considering that this is 3dmark03 I'm dealing with here and 150pts is alot. On another though I am CPU limited running only a Xp 1700+, now if I can just get my hand a PC320 and Barton 3000+.... =D

 

[Sidulator]

Originally posted by: edm
Yes, but like someone mentioned, I am CPU limited. and since I only have about $320-$340 to spend, would I be better off with

9700 PRO and 1.4 T-burd
-or-
9700 Non pro and XP 2.0 2400+

?

btw, what version of omega drivers? and what is your processor?

thanks

I'm using the 2.4.07a drivers on a 2.4b@2.61GHz with 512mb of PC1066@PC1160

 

[Baileybbk]

I just ran 3dMark03 and got a score of 4405

This is with:
AIW 9700 3.2 drivers
P4 @3.06
1 gig mem
SINXP motherboard

Does this score seem a little low?

 

[Sidulator]

Originally posted by: Baileybbk
I just ran 3dMark03 and got a score of 4405

This is with:
AIW 9700 3.2 drivers
P4 @3.06
1 gig mem
SINXP motherboard

Does this score seem a little low?

It does seem low for your setup. I'm only at 2.61Ghz and get almost 5200. Omega drivers rule..trust me

 

[Baileybbk]

Originally posted by: Sidulator

Originally posted by: Baileybbk
I just ran 3dMark03 and got a score of 4405

This is with:
AIW 9700 3.2 drivers
P4 @3.06
1 gig mem
SINXP motherboard

Does this score seem a little low?

It does seem low for your setup. I'm only at 2.61Ghz and get almost 5200. Omega drivers rule..trust me

Omega Drivers??