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AgaBoogaBoo

Lifer
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Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
LOL, only in America...

So, you can:

1. Drive at 16 (and get married - if you're a girl)
2. Get drafted - kill or be killed, with the state's blessing - at 18;
3. Buy and smoke tobacco at 18.
4. But only at 21 you can actually drink...

you guys are totally screwed...

Gee golly, more government hate!
 
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Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
LOL, only in America...

So, you can:

1. Drive at 16 (and get married - if you're a girl)
2. Get drafted - kill or be killed, with the state's blessing - at 18;
3. Buy and smoke tobacco at 18.
4. But only at 21 you can actually drink...

you guys are totally screwed...

Id post a rebuttle, but I don't know where to begin with Canada. A very beautiful country....but you think we're fvcked up?
 

Afro000Dude

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My local movie theater has a similar R-rating policy. They make sure everyone in a party is over 17, or they dont let you in. Stupid in both cases. It would be better if the cashier didn't ask in the first place. Then he/she wouldn't be knowingly selling to an underage person.
 

Anubis

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they have been dooing this for years

i was buying booze at the store at a while ago, and i saw a friend thewre and said hi as i was waiting in line, just randomally happened apon each other, when it was my turn the person asks for my id and then the id of my friend of who i was still talking, he didnt have his ID on him, tho he was 21 and they refused to sell me teh beer because he didnt have his ID, even tho we didnt come in together nor were we leaving together, we were just chatting
 

GeekDrew

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Same thing happened to me, here in Columbus, Ohio. Went shopping with my adopted brother (who was 29, at the time, IIRC). The cashier asked us both for ID's... I said "no" since I was only 19 at the time. We were told that everyone in a given party had to be carded during checkout if alcohol was purchased. I just said that I wasn't with him, he was just a friend of mine, and that we were not checking out together. I proceeded to pick up one of those divider things alongside the conveyor belt, placed it somewhere in the middle of our stuff, and said that the stuff on the other side of the order was mine, I had just forgotten to put the divider there. She proceeded to check us out just fine... and sold Aaron the alcohol... and didn't even card him (she asked me first...). Keep in mind we look like identical twins, even though we're not. ;)

These freaking laws suck.
 

robphelan

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never seen this in Texas... i have seen a store refuse to sell beer to a parent whose child was either carrying the carton for them or taking it out of the basket for them.

the parent had to go back to the beer section himself and get it... silly.

we serve beer every year at a large festival. The training we go through, by TABC (tx alcohol & bev comm) says we CAN refuse to sell IF we think the person > 21 is buying for < 21.

However, as long as the person buying the beer is physically removing it from the counter and is >21, we can't be held liable for what they do with it(unless they're intoxicated, then we don't sell to them anyway).
 

beyonddc

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
Went to Safeway with my live-in GF tonight to pick up food, and we bought some beer (I am 23, she is 20). At the register, the checker, after carding me, asked me if SHE was 21. I said no, since she isn't and it doesn't matter. She said that they're not allowed to sell to "young couples where one person isn't 21."

WFT!?!?

Then she said, "I'll sell to you this time because I know the next person in line and they aren't working for the cops, but next time she has to stay in the car."

WHAT THE FVCK DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF SHE IS IN THE CAR OR IN THE STORE?

FVCK YOU, SAFEWAY.

I mean, I assume this is just a specific store policy and not some new state (CA) or nationwide thing I don't know about? Christ, next thing you know, they won't sell to parents with their children with them. Last time I was in the Safeway down the street they didn't even card me.

Anyone else encountered anything like this?

Yup, it's samething in Boston.
 

Qwest

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me and my dad went in a liquor store when i was 15 and the cashier just made sure that my dad carried the stuff to the car, not me.

OP story pretty ridiculous though.
 
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Most asinine thing I've ever seen was a 23 year old deliberately buying beer for his girlfriend who was under the legal drinking age.
 

40Hands

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I was in line with my mom one time and the woman had to call over her manager to see if it was ok that my mom bought a 12 pack. I was 20 at the time visiting with my mom and brother.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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That's a very common practice. Everywhere around here cards everyone in the group if the person buying gets carded or anyone in the group looks young enough to get carded. Both for alcohol and tobacco.
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: robphelan
never seen this in Texas... i have seen a store refuse to sell beer to a parent whose child was either carrying the carton for them or taking it out of the basket for them.

the parent had to go back to the beer section himself and get it... silly.

we serve beer every year at a large festival. The training we go through, by TABC (tx alcohol & bev comm) says we CAN refuse to sell IF we think the person > 21 is buying for < 21.

However, as long as the person buying the beer is physically removing it from the counter and is >21, we can't be held liable for what they do with it(unless they're intoxicated, then we don't sell to them anyway).

It happens in Texas too, ran into this dumb rule several times. It's BS because older adults with teenagers don't have the same problem (in genenral).
 

jdub1107

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I buy alcohol at grocery stores (Ralphs, Hows, Sav-On, Vons) a lot with my gf who is 20. Never had them card her. I live in Los Angeles, btw.
 

Linflas

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Don't blame Safeway, blame the fools that think that 18 is adulthood for everything except consuming alcohol. Safeway is just trying to protect themselves from the hysteria that would result if you somehow allowed the 20 year old's lips to contact the alcohol and then got caught.
 

Conky

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Wow, I never heard of this "carding the whole group" thing before.

I just wish the cops around here would quit getting young underaged hotties to ask me to buy them beer outside of the liquor store. Do I look like I wanna go to jail? Bad enough they go after underaged buyers with this "group id" thing but to try and entrap me? Aren't the prisons full enough yet?
 

Uppsala9496

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Don't blame Safeway, blame the fools that think that 18 is adulthood for everything except consuming alcohol. Safeway is just trying to protect themselves from the hysteria that would result if you somehow allowed the 20 year old's lips to contact the alcohol and then got caught.

Actually it was the federal government that decided on 21. States can drop the age to whatever they want. However, they won't get any federal grant money for roads if they do. So, every state has it at 21. WI held out for a while........

Oh, and IL has the same carding policy. I still get carded and I'm 32.
 

GhettoPeanut

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do you people not know about these laws...its why you ask someone to buy you beer when your younger but you never go in with them.....
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Linflas
Don't blame Safeway, blame the fools that think that 18 is adulthood for everything except consuming alcohol. Safeway is just trying to protect themselves from the hysteria that would result if you somehow allowed the 20 year old's lips to contact the alcohol and then got caught.

The law says they can't sell it to minors. Anything beyond that isn't the seller's responsibility. I know where your going, and it's sad that they (sellers) feel the need to protect themselves like this.
 

acemcmac

Lifer
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I'll be applying for a morgage and graduating with my B.S. before I'm 21 and have personally contributed more to the GDP than every 21-23 year old I know combined. I take personal affront to the state of the drinking laws.... it's pure discrimination

I'm not saying that most 18-21 year olds are mature enough to drink responsibly... but that's the fault of the parents for not raising them with enough responsibility. I am a responsible adult. Where's my fvckign beer damnit :|

I too have had the OP's problem. I boycott those establishments the same as I boycot buisnesses who let cops launch speed traps from their property..

on a related note-
any waitress who wastes more than 8 seconds of my evening with carding/grandstanding about liquor laws automatically recieves no more than a 5% tip. Do your fvcking job and get out of my face. Waitresses who don't card get 20%+ because they know how to use disgression.
 

franksta

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I had this happen to me at Kroger. Crazy cashier lady made my wife retrieve her purse from the car just to show ID. Made me mad. Even though we were 25/24 at the time, it was stupid.
 

acemcmac

Lifer
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Originally posted by: franksta
I had this happen to me at Kroger. Crazy cashier lady made my wife retrieve her purse from the car just to show ID. Made me mad. Even though we were 25/24 at the time, it was stupid.

I'd have walked out. Fvck them.
 

thomsbrain

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Dec 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Most asinine thing I've ever seen was a 23 year old deliberately buying beer for his girlfriend who was under the legal drinking age.

we live together, asswipe. i'm 23 and i'm going to drink. she's my living partner and she's going to go grocery shopping with me. we like to go together to make sure she gets the right gardenburgers and I get the right hot dogs. whether or not she drinks some of my beer at home is irrelevent and on my head, not the store's, just like any teenager drinking their parent's booze is on the parent's head. i am the only one paying, it's my safeway club card, i'm the one pushing the cart, and it's my car that it's going into. she's not buying booze, so she shouldn't get carded.
 

theking84

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Most asinine thing I've ever seen was a 23 year old deliberately buying beer for his girlfriend who was under the legal drinking age.

we live together, asswipe. i'm 23 and i'm going to drink. she's my living partner and she's going to go grocery shopping with me. we like to go together to make sure she gets the right gardenburgers and I get the right hot dogs. whether or not she drinks some of my beer at home is irrelevent and on my head, not the store's, just like any teenager drinking their parent's booze is on the parent's head. i am the only one paying, it's my safeway club card, i'm the one pushing the cart, and it's my car that it's going into. she's not buying booze, so she shouldn't get carded.

Exactly. I bitched out a cashier at Food Lion who tried to pull that on me. I asked him to get the manager and the manager OK'd it. If he didn't, I'd just have the under 21 go sit in the car and I will go through another check out line.