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ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Ameesh
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Damn! I thought I couldn't go wrong with a Dell. Truth is, I bought this without much research so I prolly deserve it. Seems like people think that it really sucks.

dont worry dude, thos guys are just ms bashing palm crazies, the axim is really nice, you'll like it it.
;) <------ I'm no longer worried. Thanx. :)
 

novon

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1) Palm game can't compare to PocketPC games...just not enough horsepower and their control layout doesn't compare (most PocketPC's have at least 4 buttons and a cursor pad)
2) Casio PocketPC's have had wired remotes for Windows Media Player for quite some time
3) All PocketPC's have the ability to turn off their screens while playing MP3's
4) PocketPC have the ability to playback MANY different forms of audio and video files:

Windows Media Player: MP3, WMV, WMF, ASF
PocketTV: MPEG
Pocket MediaVideoPlayer (formally PocketDIVX): DIVX, MPEG, MP3
RealPlayer: RM, RA

There is no real reason to get a PalmOS based PDA anymore. They are no longer the cheapest and they are no longer the smallest.

The iPAQ 1910 is the smallest thing out there (4.2 ounces, .4 inches thick) and it goes for $299. It has was recently at Staples for $199. 200MHz, 48MB RAM
The Viewsonic V35 is $260 after rebate at Amazon.com (4.2 ounce, .4 inches thick). 300MHz, 36.45MB RAM
The Dells are $199 and $299 (cheaper after coupons) 300MHz, 32MB RAM; 400MHz, 64MB RAM

Besides, you can do WAY more with PocketPC's than you can with Palms.

Now if there is a Pocket PC with all the features the Clie has (Wired Remote, Built In Keyboard, Refined OS, MP3/WMA/MPEG playback, efficiency and small program sizes) in one device, then let me know, and I'll go get one. Meanwhile, I'd take the Clie. Also, as for games, I've played PocketPC games, sure they are More intricate, but I'd rather fit 50 great gameplay palm games in the pda's memory instead of four or five bloated games that aren't as much fun.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: novon
1) Palm game can't compare to PocketPC games...just not enough horsepower and their control layout doesn't compare (most PocketPC's have at least 4 buttons and a cursor pad)
2) Casio PocketPC's have had wired remotes for Windows Media Player for quite some time
3) All PocketPC's have the ability to turn off their screens while playing MP3's
4) PocketPC have the ability to playback MANY different forms of audio and video files:

Windows Media Player: MP3, WMV, WMF, ASF
PocketTV: MPEG
Pocket MediaVideoPlayer (formally PocketDIVX): DIVX, MPEG, MP3
RealPlayer: RM, RA

There is no real reason to get a PalmOS based PDA anymore. They are no longer the cheapest and they are no longer the smallest.

The iPAQ 1910 is the smallest thing out there (4.2 ounces, .4 inches thick) and it goes for $299. It has was recently at Staples for $199. 200MHz, 48MB RAM
The Viewsonic V35 is $260 after rebate at Amazon.com (4.2 ounce, .4 inches thick). 300MHz, 36.45MB RAM
The Dells are $199 and $299 (cheaper after coupons) 300MHz, 32MB RAM; 400MHz, 64MB RAM

Besides, you can do WAY more with PocketPC's than you can with Palms.

Now if there is a Pocket PC with all the features the Clie has (Wired Remote, Built In Keyboard, Refined OS, MP3/WMA/MPEG playback, efficiency and small program sizes) in one device, then let me know, and I'll go get one. Meanwhile, I'd take the Clie. Also, as for games, I've played PocketPC games, sure they are More intricate, but I'd rather fit 50 great gameplay palm games in the pda's memory instead of four or five bloated games that aren't as much fun.

Ahhh, PalmOS Zealots will never die :D I'd take 5 great PocketPC games over the whole fifty BILLION PalmOS games out there:

Baseball Addict
Tennis Addict
Argentum
ZioGolf2
Simcity 2000

As for keyboards, all PocketPC's have on screen keyboards and Transcriber is superior to Palm's input method. And PocketPC2002 is a very robust and stable OS IMHO.
 

Koing

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Originally posted by: novon
1) Palm game can't compare to PocketPC games...just not enough horsepower and their control layout doesn't compare (most PocketPC's have at least 4 buttons and a cursor pad)
2) Casio PocketPC's have had wired remotes for Windows Media Player for quite some time
3) All PocketPC's have the ability to turn off their screens while playing MP3's
4) PocketPC have the ability to playback MANY different forms of audio and video files:

Windows Media Player: MP3, WMV, WMF, ASF
PocketTV: MPEG
Pocket MediaVideoPlayer (formally PocketDIVX): DIVX, MPEG, MP3
RealPlayer: RM, RA

There is no real reason to get a PalmOS based PDA anymore. They are no longer the cheapest and they are no longer the smallest.

The iPAQ 1910 is the smallest thing out there (4.2 ounces, .4 inches thick) and it goes for $299. It has was recently at Staples for $199. 200MHz, 48MB RAM
The Viewsonic V35 is $260 after rebate at Amazon.com (4.2 ounce, .4 inches thick). 300MHz, 36.45MB RAM
The Dells are $199 and $299 (cheaper after coupons) 300MHz, 32MB RAM; 400MHz, 64MB RAM

Besides, you can do WAY more with PocketPC's than you can with Palms.

Now if there is a Pocket PC with all the features the Clie has (Wired Remote, Built In Keyboard, Refined OS, MP3/WMA/MPEG playback, efficiency and small program sizes) in one device, then let me know, and I'll go get one. Meanwhile, I'd take the Clie. Also, as for games, I've played PocketPC games, sure they are More intricate, but I'd rather fit 50 great gameplay palm games in the pda's memory instead of four or five bloated games that aren't as much fun.

I'm with this man:D

I'd take the Sony b/c it looks closest, has the onboard camera which is pretty dam smooth for what it is. You can also use the Sony Clie as remote controls. I'm not sure if you can with the PPC pda's though?

Also it would suitme pefectly as my laptop has a MS built in.

Too bad I don't need a pda so I don't have either. They are both great and if I found a use for one then I'd probably buy one.

 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: novon
1) Palm game can't compare to PocketPC games...just not enough horsepower and their control layout doesn't compare (most PocketPC's have at least 4 buttons and a cursor pad)
2) Casio PocketPC's have had wired remotes for Windows Media Player for quite some time
3) All PocketPC's have the ability to turn off their screens while playing MP3's
4) PocketPC have the ability to playback MANY different forms of audio and video files:

Windows Media Player: MP3, WMV, WMF, ASF
PocketTV: MPEG
Pocket MediaVideoPlayer (formally PocketDIVX): DIVX, MPEG, MP3
RealPlayer: RM, RA

There is no real reason to get a PalmOS based PDA anymore. They are no longer the cheapest and they are no longer the smallest.

The iPAQ 1910 is the smallest thing out there (4.2 ounces, .4 inches thick) and it goes for $299. It has was recently at Staples for $199. 200MHz, 48MB RAM
The Viewsonic V35 is $260 after rebate at Amazon.com (4.2 ounce, .4 inches thick). 300MHz, 36.45MB RAM
The Dells are $199 and $299 (cheaper after coupons) 300MHz, 32MB RAM; 400MHz, 64MB RAM

Besides, you can do WAY more with PocketPC's than you can with Palms.

Now if there is a Pocket PC with all the features the Clie has (Wired Remote, Built In Keyboard, Refined OS, MP3/WMA/MPEG playback, efficiency and small program sizes) in one device, then let me know, and I'll go get one. Meanwhile, I'd take the Clie. Also, as for games, I've played PocketPC games, sure they are More intricate, but I'd rather fit 50 great gameplay palm games in the pda's memory instead of four or five bloated games that aren't as much fun.

I'm with this man:D

I'd take the Sony b/c it looks closest, has the onboard camera which is pretty dam smooth for what it is. You can also use the Sony Clie as remote controls. I'm not sure if you can with the PPC pda's though?

Also it would suitme pefectly as my laptop has a MS built in.

Too bad I don't need a pda so I don't have either. They are both great and if I found a use for one then I'd probably buy one.

The built in camera is a gimic IMHO. Crappy camera to drive the price up. $500+ for that clamshell Clie and it's no more useful than a $199 Dell Axim (actually about $175 after Dell coupons); and it gets worse battery life to boot. What a rip off :D

I'd take my Panasonic DMC-LC20PP 2.0 megapixel digital camera wth 3x optical zoom and movie mode which I got for $200 from OfficeMax (that price included a 128MB SD card + two free 16MB SD cards) + my $260 Viewsonic V35 over that Clie any day :D

And PocketPC's can be used as remotes as well. In fact, one of the iPAQ 39xx's selling point is that it has an awesome, powerful built in univeral remote built in that can control your whole home entertainment center.
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
I just bought this Dell Axim for $200 AR. Anyone know how these things compare to the Toshiba and Compaq's?

There's nothing wrong with the Axim. I like my Toshiba e740 better, however, because it's slightly smaller and has built-in 802.11b networking. You can also add wireless networking to your Axim with a CompactFlash format 802.11b network card.

Of course, the high-end iPaq's are awesome, but they cost too damn much. You can buy 3 Axim's for the price of an iPaq 5400 series.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Yes I know about the 1910, it's one model versus all of the large size PPC's...

limited expandability, non-standard headphone jack & 5 hour battery life, great sceen, removeable battery...

When the market of PPC's matures in a year or so, Palm will be having a few problems...

uh, palm already has huge problems
 

novon

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the clie without the camera is going for around $300, and it has a keyboard.
 

fatbaby

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i'm considering a purchase of a PDA too...

Are there graphing calculator programs and geometric figure drawing programs on a palm/ppc that rival those on a ti83+ or ti89? (and are cheap too?)

If yes, do you think it is worth it buying a palm m130 or dell axim for $200 just for use as a graphing calc?

Also, it will be used for planning out my schedule and reminders...and writing notes in class

another thing, is there AIM for palm/ppc?

 

Imdmn04

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Im still waiting for a PDA to come with a built-in hd, whether its a pocket pc or a palm, the 256mb memory card just dont cut it if you wanna play mp3s and movies, how could a pocketpc be characterized as a portable media player when you cant even play a full movie on it? On the higher ends, these things are about 500 to 600 bucks, I better be able to get a built in hd for that kinda dough, if apple can put one in their ipod, then i know all the pda companies can do it too.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: fatbaby
i'm considering a purchase of a PDA too...

Are there graphing calculator programs and geometric figure drawing programs on a palm/ppc that rival those on a ti83+ or ti89? (and are cheap too?)

If yes, do you think it is worth it buying a palm m130 or dell axim for $200 just for use as a graphing calc?

Also, it will be used for planning out my schedule and reminders...and writing notes in class

another thing, is there AIM for palm/ppc?

You can actually use an HP emulator (fully skinned) on the PocketPC. Best of all, it's free :D

http://www.insomedia.com/apps/scalc/scalc.html

Download here:

http://www.insomedia.com/apps/scalc/scalc.zip

It makes use of Macromedia Flash 5.0 for PocketPC's
 

ultimatebob

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Originally posted by: Imdmn04
Im still waiting for a PDA to come with a built-in hd, whether its a pocket pc or a palm, the 256mb memory card just dont cut it if you wanna play mp3s and movies, how could a pocketpc be characterized as a portable media player when you cant even play a full movie on it? On the higher ends, these things are about 500 to 600 bucks, I better be able to get a built in hd for that kinda dough, if apple can put one in their ipod, then i know all the pda companies can do it too.

If you have a PDA that supports CompactFlash media (like the Axim and the e740), you can put an IBM MicroDrive in your PDA. They currently come in sizes up to 1 GB, which is plenty of storage space for MP3 and videos in PocketPC format.
 

whizbang

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Meanwhile, I'd take the Clie. Also, as for games, I've played PocketPC games, sure they are More intricate, but I'd rather fit 50 great gameplay palm games in the pda's memory instead of four or five bloated games that aren't as much fun.
You obviously use a Mac. That would explain why Tetris seems more interesting to you than Tomb Raider.
 

whizbang

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Im still waiting for a PDA to come with a built-in hd, whether its a pocket pc or a palm, the 256mb memory card just dont cut it if you wanna play mp3s and movies, how could a pocketpc be characterized as a portable media player when you cant even play a full movie on it? On the higher ends, these things are about 500 to 600 bucks, I better be able to get a built in hd for that kinda dough, if apple can put one in their ipod, then i know all the pda companies can do it too.
You can fit full movies on 256MB solid state removable media. Compress the movie to the quality and size fitting a small screen and the file size is less than 256MB. Besides, 512MB Compact Flash cards already go for less than $200 and 1GB cards exist but haven't come down in price yet. If you spend $500-$600 on one of these, then you haven't checked out Hot Deals forum.
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Yes I know about the 1910, it's one model versus all of the large size PPC's...

:D <-- Click here. Same weight and thickness as the 1910 (4.2 ounces, .4" thick)


OK, I've been owned... Forgot how small the Viewsonic was.

Anyway, I own both & will for some time.

My PPC wish list:

Palm m500 series (or 1910) sized
sub $300
powerful IR emitter & universal remote software
400 mhz
Palm emulator (is there one out already?) would kill the die hard Palm OS fanboys
64+megs
HP/Compaq sized
CF & SD (SDIO) capable
transflective, backlit screen
802.11b/a built in
standard sized headphone plug
removeable battery
& I want a cell-phone built in.

 

BD2003

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I've had dozens of PDAs, both Pocket PC and palm, and they are both good. Right now, I'm using a Palm Vx.

Sure, PPC has all these newfangled features and can do really amazing things for its size, but in the end, all of these things were just gimmicks to me. Just because you can do something, doesnt mean you should.

PPC has better games, but games for both PPC and palm pretty much equally suck. I havent wanted to play any for more than 5 minutes.

PPCs have these super fast processors, but when using the actual PDAs applications, PPC is no faster than a palm.

PPCs have better and badder screens, but in the end, the actual usability hasnt changed much, its just a prettier screen.

If you can afford it, go all out and buy a PPC. Theyre definitely cooler than the palms. But as far as actual usability goes for most things, its still about neck and neck. Sure you can watch a movie while surfing the net on a wireless network with 4 Mp3s playing in the background while you read an ebook and have 10 applications open on a pocket PC, but why the hell would you want to, other than to say you could? I used to do all of the above, but then I realized it was pointless. Maybe toying with PDAs has just gotten old for me.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: BD2003
I've had dozens of PDAs, both Pocket PC and palm, and they are both good. Right now, I'm using a Palm Vx.

Sure, PPC has all these newfangled features and can do really amazing things for its size, but in the end, all of these things were just gimmicks to me. Just because you can do something, doesnt mean you should.

PPC has better games, but games for both PPC and palm pretty much equally suck. I havent wanted to play any for more than 5 minutes.

PPCs have these super fast processors, but when using the actual PDAs applications, PPC is no faster than a palm.

PPCs have better and badder screens, but in the end, the actual usability hasnt changed much, its just a prettier screen.

If you can afford it, go all out and buy a PPC. Theyre definitely cooler than the palms. But as far as actual usability goes for most things, its still about neck and neck. Sure you can watch a movie while surfing the net on a wireless network with 4 Mp3s playing in the background while you read an ebook and have 10 applications open on a pocket PC, but why the hell would you want to, other than to say you could? I used to do all of the above, but then I realized it was pointless. Maybe toying with PDAs has just gotten old for me.

Are PPC's so much more expensive than the new Palms?
 

BatmanNate

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My dad just ordered the 400MHz Axim with an extra battery, I look forward to playing with it. I own a Palm Vx and have been very impressed with its stability. I use it to read books and play dope wars so it's more than adequate for me.