Just bought a 980X... I think I am going to throw up

[toyota]

Here you again with the same tired song over and over again, aren't you tired of posting the same stuff, derailing the thread, when most people here already proved you wrong thousands of time in terms of CPU bottlenecking.

Read here: http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=13454&all=1

http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=13034&all=1

And learn from the real pro's in terms of hardware review instead of pure speculation and FUD.

stop acting like an asshole and actually look at REAL reviews from various other sites too. the i5/i7 scale much better with multiple high end gpus and thats a fact. I didnt say it couldnt deliver a playable experience or anything like that. Thuban just cannot quite FULLY push even 2 5870 gpus much less more of them just like I said. with something crazy like 3 or 4 of the highest end gpus, like the guy I was replying to suggested, you would be an idiot not to use an overclocked i5/i7. if you are going to spend $1500-$2000 on gpus it only makes sense to also have a cpu that can fully push them.

 

[evolucion8]

stop acting like an asshole and actually look at REAL reviews from various other sites too. the i5/i7 scale much better with multiple high end gpus and thats a fact. I didnt say it couldnt deliver a playable experience or anything like that. Thuban just cannot quite FULLY push even 2 5870 gpus much less more of them just like I said. with something crazy like 3 or 4 of the highest end gpus, like the guy I was replying to suggested, you would be an idiot not to use an overclocked i5/i7. if you are going to spend $1500-$2000 on gpus it only makes sense to also have a cpu that can fully push them.

So much recommendation with high end CPU and yet you are using a puny dual core CPU. I showed you the links and never really replied anything to counter act it, so your rant is as false as your FUD that you always spread in every thread possible regarding CPU performance. Is tiring and sickening.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed/9

"Today's conclusion is no different than what we've been saying about AMD's CPU lineup for several months now. If you're running applications that are well threaded and you're looking to improve performance in them, AMD generally offers you better performance for the same money as Intel. It all boils down to AMD selling you more cores than Intel at the same price point.

Applications like video encoding and offline 3D rendering show the real strengths of the Phenom II X6. And thanks to Turbo Core, you don't give up any performance in less threaded applications compared to a Phenom II X4. The 1090T can easily trump the Core i7 860 and the 1055T can do even better against the Core i5 750.

You start running into problems when you look at lightly threaded applications or mixed workloads that aren't always stressing all six cores. In these situations Intel's quad-core Lynnfield processors (Core i5 700 series and Core i7 800 series) are better buys. They give you better performance in these light or mixed workload scenarios, not to mention lower overall power consumption."

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/phenom-ii-x6-1090t_6.html#sect0

"Back during the first Gulftown tests we already saw that contemporary games can’t really take advantage of six-core processors. Today we can only once again confirm the same conclusion: at this time games obviously have no use for six-core Phenom II X6 processors. Phenom II 965 is slightly faster than both six-core AMD CPUs in most cases, even though AMD tried to use Turbo CORE technology to make up for their slightly lower clock frequency. In other words, Intel quad-core processor seem to be the best choice for gaming these days, because their microarchitecture is best suited for the type of load created during contemporary gameplay.

However, to be fair we have to say that both, Phenom II X4 and Phenom II X6, are powerful enough to deliver pretty high fps count. And it means that in reality the major bottleneck of the contemporary gaming system will be not the CPU but the graphics accelerator, which should be picked out very thoroughly for this reason.

Of course if someone has more than $400 budget ir higherfor only a CPU, there's no better option than Intel, but there's no Intel CPU at the same price as AMD that can match AMD's in terms of average performance. Nobody's gonna recommend a $200 CPU for a $1000 multi GPU setup."

Leave the CPU recommendations to the other pro's in this forum.

 

[taltamir]

those links show tests with games that are not as good at utilizing a quad core... nor as CPU intensive...
I suggest that they should try supreme commander, flight sim X, and mass effect.

 

[toyota]

So much recommendation with high end CPU and yet you are using a puny dual core CPU. I showed you the links and never really replied anything to counter act it, so your rant is as false as your FUD that you always spread in every thread possible regarding CPU performance. Is tiring and sickening.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-sixcore-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-1055t-reviewed/9

"Today's conclusion is no different than what we've been saying about AMD's CPU lineup for several months now. If you're running applications that are well threaded and you're looking to improve performance in them, AMD generally offers you better performance for the same money as Intel. It all boils down to AMD selling you more cores than Intel at the same price point.

Applications like video encoding and offline 3D rendering show the real strengths of the Phenom II X6. And thanks to Turbo Core, you don't give up any performance in less threaded applications compared to a Phenom II X4. The 1090T can easily trump the Core i7 860 and the 1055T can do even better against the Core i5 750.

You start running into problems when you look at lightly threaded applications or mixed workloads that aren't always stressing all six cores. In these situations Intel's quad-core Lynnfield processors (Core i5 700 series and Core i7 800 series) are better buys. They give you better performance in these light or mixed workload scenarios, not to mention lower overall power consumption."

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/phenom-ii-x6-1090t_6.html#sect0

"Back during the first Gulftown tests we already saw that contemporary games can’t really take advantage of six-core processors. Today we can only once again confirm the same conclusion: at this time games obviously have no use for six-core Phenom II X6 processors. Phenom II 965 is slightly faster than both six-core AMD CPUs in most cases, even though AMD tried to use Turbo CORE technology to make up for their slightly lower clock frequency. In other words, Intel quad-core processor seem to be the best choice for gaming these days, because their microarchitecture is best suited for the type of load created during contemporary gameplay.

However, to be fair we have to say that both, Phenom II X4 and Phenom II X6, are powerful enough to deliver pretty high fps count. And it means that in reality the major bottleneck of the contemporary gaming system will be not the CPU but the graphics accelerator, which should be picked out very thoroughly for this reason.

Of course if someone has more than $400 budget ir higherfor only a CPU, there's no better option than Intel, but there's no Intel CPU at the same price as AMD that can match AMD's in terms of average performance. Nobody's gonna recommend a $200 CPU for a $1000 multi GPU setup."

Leave the CPU recommendations to the other pro's in this forum.

way to make a fool of yourself. perhaps in your haste to be a jerk you forgot about the part where I was commenting on running MULTIPLE HIGH END GPUS. the guy I replied to was talking about THREE or FOUR high end gpus in sli/crossfire in which case the i7/i5 is much superior just like I said. there is nothing wrong with Phenom/Thubon on a single high end gpu at all like in those links you posted.

and why would I really care about upgrading my cpu when all I am running is a single gtx260 at 1920x1080? heck my E8500 at 3.8 actually matches or beats any Phenom 2 quad in most cases anyway. there is not much point in me getting an i7/i5 until I get a much faster gpu setup. again way to make a fool of yourself while acting like a jerk at the same time.

 

[mv2devnull]

I'm comparing going from W3520 to X5680 (similar to 920 to 980X).

Where would you put the W3680 on the scale then?

 

[edplayer]

Those fox bodied mustangs were not much heavier than a Miata and very easy to work on.

uh, they are a lot heavier. Unless you mean one that is without engine and transmission.

 

[Mgz]

wow, 980x, 480GTX....at least you'll be set for a couple of years

couple of years

yeah right ;-)

 

[Rubycon]

Where would you put the W3680 on the scale then?

Actually that one would be the Xeon equal of the 980X if the intent was to run in a single socket board. Don't have any of those though.

 

[tweakboy]

Nice thread, good gear. No reason for a upgrade of anything.. gl

 

[evolucion8]

way to make a fool of yourself. perhaps in your haste to be an asshole you forgot about the part where I was commenting on running MULTIPLE HIGH END GPUS. the guy I replied to was talking about THREE or FOUR high end gpus in sli/crossfire in which case the i7/i5 is much superior just like I said. there is nothing wrong with Phenom/Thubon on a single high end gpu at all like in those links you posted.

and why would I really care about upgrading my cpu when all I am running is a single gtx260 at 1920x1080? heck my E8500 at 3.8 actually matches or beats any Phenom 2 quad in most cases anyway. there is not much point in me getting an i7/i5 until I get a much faster gpu setup. again way to make a fool of yourself while acting like an asshole at the same time.

Is just a videocard, go outside and get a life or a woman or man whatever suit your needs, loser.

Your CPU faster for games than a Phenom? LOLL, Phenom II X4 outperforms slighly a similar slower clocked Quad Core in multi threaded games, so probably your CPU would be slighly faster in single threaded games than any slower quad core, but in multi threaded games, it will bottleneck even a GTS 250. Good example, Mass Effect, Assassin Creed 1 and 2, Battlefield Bad Company, your CPU simply doesn't stand a chance against Phenom II X4 in such scenarios. In heavy multi threaded games, an AMD Six Core will be better than a similarly priced Intel processor, period. Don't like it, shoot yourself in the head, dummy.


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[AdamK47]

Now now kids. Calm down. Just admit that both of your CPUs are far slower than mine in pretty much everything and we can move on.

 

[evolucion8]

Now now kids. Calm down. Just admit that both of your CPUs are far slower than mine in pretty much everything and we can move on.

at least twice faster than mine. If I'm currently very happy with it, I couldn't imagine how I would feel having yours, probably I would throw up

 

[mv2devnull]

Actually that one would be the Xeon equal of the 980X if the intent was to run in a single socket board. Don't have any of those though.

Yes, W3680 seems almost identical to 980X, except for enhanced memory support. Same list price. Actually, by simple logic, the existence of W3680 makes the 980X redundant, inferior, and useless.

 

[Shmee]

Yes, W3680 seems almost identical to 980X, except for enhanced memory support. Same list price. Actually, by simple logic, the existence of W3680 makes the 980X redundant, inferior, and useless.

does it also have the unlocked multi though?

 

[wwswimming]

I am going to be sick to my stomach. Why I spent the cash I have no idea.

that would give you a chance to test vomit as a TIM.

we all have buyer's remorse once in a while.

how about buying one of these ?

 

[A_Dying_Wren]

Now now kids. Calm down. Just admit that both of your CPUs are far slower than mine in pretty much everything and we can move on.

Aren't three 5870s in crossfire and a 980x overkill on 1920*1080? Heck overkill's an understatement.

Not that I wouldn't mind such a set-up

OP: That 980x will tide you over a very long time I think especially if you overclock it. It'll be Intel's next architecture that'll be the only thing to really best it and that's not due for a while

 

[taltamir]

Aren't three 5870s in crossfire and a 980x overkill on 1920*1080? Heck overkill's an understatement.

Not that I wouldn't mind such a set-up

OP: That 980x will tide you over a very long time I think especially if you overclock it. It'll be Intel's next architecture that'll be the only thing to really best it and that's not due for a while

there is no such thing as overkill, there is only "reload" and "open fire".

 

[Rubycon]

does it also have the unlocked multi though?

Yes

how about buying one of these ?

They are just showing up in retail outlets. EVGA had a few yesterday and they sold out in 10 minutes. I may have to try a few.

With two X5680s at 4.2+ and three or four GTX480s the box is really pushing the limits of air cooling. Power is not a problem since we use 240V for everything. A 1200W Toughpower for the board and one for the GPUs should be plenty.

 

[Greg04]

:thumbsdown: You realize the environmental hazzard that batteries in landfills are....but that's OFF topic.

except that hybrid batteries are made of fairy poop, which is biodegradable, and they are charged with magical non-polluting power...

 

[Dadofamunky]

now now kids. Calm down. Just admit that both of your cpus are far slower than mine in pretty much everything and we can move on.

lol. +1

 

[PsiStar]

They are just showing up in retail outlets. EVGA had a few yesterday and they sold out in 10 minutes. I may have to try a few.

Wait?? What!!! It has been over 24 hours since this post & the b@$t@rd$ that got those boards have not bragged about them HERE ...yet?!?!

Selfish. That's what it is ... just selfish.:twisted:

These would be some very nice solver servers. Now thinking about appropriate server room cooling ... :\ ... maybe I'll just go ahead with that earth coupled cooling system I have always toyed with.

 

[mv2devnull]

Not everyone knows this forum, nor everyone here keeps eye on all candy.

 

[Claudius-07]

Heh jeesh I started this thread as I felt foolish for buying the gear, which honestly I did not need to upgrade. I did not mean for folks to get all riled up over stuff but lots of info here and lots of opinions and that is great IMHO. Anyhow, original system is now happily zipping along for my brother - a huge upgrade for him and I am happy I could help him out (read: free, he's in school).

As for the 980 and the 480 GTX and eVGA board, I got everything here but the bloody 480 GTX. Crap! Also I ordered 12 GB of RAM and got a freaking 4 GB set instead... so I have to deal with that issue.

 

[PsiStar]

What I posted last is off topic, but I posted it the way I did to make the OP feel better ... tongue in cheek sort of better ... I was trying to be funny & facetious.

I guess you couldn't hear the inflection?:sneaky:

 

[SolMiester]

And yet who plays at 1280x1024 anymore? Let alone 1680x1050? I looked all all of the results that show 1920x1200, most of the benchmarks are similar. The only one where the Thuban gets truly smoked is in Left 4 Dead 2.

More people play 12x10 than any other!....however 16x10 is the next popular res