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dullard

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This one below is more expensive but it has both white and grey filament and it even says "food safe" on the package.

And it can be shipped to my location, for some reason the other brand only lets me ship the yellow one.

Look closely what was tested.
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The PLA and PETG were tested as food safe. No where does it say that any of the dyes were tested. Plus, the fact remains that the tiny wavy lines on 3D printed parts give crevices which are perfect breeding grounds for bacteria.
 

Gizmo j

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I got the filament and it even says food safe on the cover.

Amazon said it was going to be delivered on Wednesday, so I was in the middle of printing all the shapes in my white filament, I think I'll do that before I make the food safe shapes.



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nakedfrog

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I'm utterly scandalized at the implication that a company selling things on Amazon could potentially be deceitful about the properties of an item for sale! They have a reputation to uphold, you know :colbert:

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dullard

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I'm utterly scandalized at the implication that a company selling things on Amazon could potentially be deceitful about the properties of an item for sale! They have a reputation to uphold, you know :colbert:

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That, and all the warnings here:

Basically natural PLA by itself is usually food safe, but
(1) most colorants are not food safe,
(2) many of the 3D printing nozzles are not food safe, even if you could find a food safe filament,
(3) many times there will be traces of what you previously printed in the equipment meaning you might use food-safe filament in a food safe nozzle but carryover from a previous print makes it not food safe,
(4) and even if you have all of the above covered, once it is 3D printed the grooves are perfect breeding grounds to make it not food safe after it has been handled. This is especially true since PLA cannot be heated very hot to sterilize it while washing.

Then that website goes on to mention some epoxies to help with many of those issues. Fill in the grooves to reduce bacterial growth and to block most of the hazards from leaching out. Just be sure that the coating remains intact (unlikely with a toddler).
 

lxskllr

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AFAIC, for human contact/consumption, plastic starts at 'not great' and ends at 'fucking terrible'. I use plastic, cause that's the way it is, and it's hard to avoid, but I wouldn't build anything for human use out of it myself.
 

Chaotic42

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Don't hate the PLA-er, hate the game.

Apparently "chrome yellow" is sometimes used in those yellow PLAs, and it is toxic. I'm having a hard time finding proper SDSes for these filaments, which isn't all that surprising, I guess.
 
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Gizmo j

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Just got this at the downtown library, I'm trying to learn how to make shapes with less pointy edges.



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Kaido

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Just got this at the downtown library, I'm trying to learn how to make shapes with less pointy edges.

Have you gotten into AI model generation yet?


Also, TinkerCAD is a great starter 3D modeling package & is FREE!

 

Gizmo j

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Ok, with tinkercad i figured out how to smooth the edges for the cube and cone, but not the pyramid.

For some reason the pyramid doesn't let me adjust the "radius" for the shape.
 
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Kaido

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Ok, with tinkercad i figured out how to smooth the edges for the cube and cone, but not the pyramid.

For some reason the pyramid doesn't let me adjust the "radius" for the shape.

LPT: Use ChatGPT to ask "how-to" questions for modeling help! The AI has already read the entire TinkerCAD manual, all of the the forum posts online, and the Youtube videos on it!

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Gizmo j

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The pyramid in these set of shapes are a lot less pointy.


 

Gizmo j

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I've been making a lot of these phone stands, I've been giving them out to people and some have asked for more.



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Kaido

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I've been making a lot of these phone stands, I've been giving them out to people and some have asked for more.



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Try a Qi wireless charging upgrade!


If you don't mind waiting on shipping, you can get the charging pucks for under $4!


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Kaido

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Good post on 3D printed food safety

As someone who worked in a polymer lab (specifically an additive company that operated a blown film line and did chemical additives for Fluoropolymer additives to reduce the effect of shark scaling. Full disclousure I worked in IT and had to calibrate machines, not a chemist.) I can tell you flat out no FDM print should be considered 'food safe'. FULL STOP. DONE.

Here is why, you do not have any additives in typical FDM printing that prevent what is commonly called Shark Scaling as a result of extrusion. Unless you are in a sophisticated lab environment your FDM is going to have that defect in the print. And guess what those tiny scales do when disrupted? They shed. You hear about micro-plastics everywhere? Guess where a fair number of them are likely coming from? Extruded plastic products.

So here is what you can do, extrude about 2 inches of FDM filament from your printer and look at it under a microscope. Even a cheap one. Now pull slightly on each end, don't break it, don't distort it, just enough to be a firm pull. Look again. You'll see the shark scale effect either stay the same, or get worse. Depending on temperature, extrusion rate, and material type you will see some form of this. Now, grab a wet rag and run it through that sample and compare the edges. Remember to pull and wipe in both directions simulating if you washed a FDM printed bowl for example.

You'll see a ton of the tips of that effect broken off. Where did the plastic go? Where do you think that PLA ended up? In you if you are eating with something printed.

No. Don't use them in planters either. Don't use them with pets, to be honest, don't use FDM at all if you have concerns about microplastic contamination. As much as I like the hobby, the reality is we are dumping a fair amount of microplastics into the environment unless you take very VERY clinical steps in controlling the print environment. Air temp, air flow, humidity, even elevation has to be taken into account to keep that shark scaling to a minimum and someone's Ender 3 or Prusa sitting in the living room isn't going to cut it for controlling that.

Here is a good video that inadvertently show your the problem:

If I remember right, and this is going back over 20 years, even typical fishing line would shed 1 gram of microplastic under light friction per 100 yards of line... I think... I am really trying to remember that.

I am sure we have some polymer scientists in here that can go into more technical detail but as far as my experience goes, NEVER USE FDM FOR FOOD (Well to be honest we shouldn't probably be doing any at home FDM printing but I doubt that argument would go over well ... as I stare at my FDM 3 feet away....)

Oh and the vapor treatment people use to smooth prints might actually help minimize the microplastic problem but some college kids need to research that.
 

Gizmo j

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I don't think I need the filament to be 100% food safe, just non toxic enough so the baby won't get sick if he licks it.

He not actually going to eat or drink off the prints.
 

nakedfrog

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He may still ingest some microplastics. Yeah, we're all doing that now, but you could maybe not actively introduce yet another source to a young child?
 
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