Judge beating his daughter on video

[irishScott]

Troll this. Who said I beat my kids like this? What makes you think I would have to beat them?

Look I get it. Most of you are appalled by the beating. I am not affected by it in the same way. Many people just can't handle corporate punishment, I can.

Well the fact that you're defending the action with the rationalization that his parents probably beat him the same way, along with your admission that your parents beat you like that, implies you do/have done similar. If it was something your parents did that you disagreed with you wouldn't be defending it.

The vid in the OP goes far, FAR beyond corporal punishment. He could have accomplished the same objective with a tiny fraction of said punishment. Instead he went all out and even seemed to be enjoying it. That's abuse.

Also, even if his parents did raise him the same way, that's not justification. That's simply transfer of abuse, a common and well-known psychological phenomena. Parents beat kid, kid grows up and becomes parent, new parent has unresolved baggage from childhood and takes it out on his/her kids since mommy and daddy are out of reach. It's especially common in men.

I've seen it and experienced it first-hand. Fortunately my dad waited until I was taller, stronger, and much less dependent on him to try and start shit. Suffice it to say I was in charge of my mom's physical security for several years up until she died in Sept from 10 years of cancer. I let things escalate for a month before I stepped in at age 17 when he pulled a judo move on her. Since that night there wasn't a single intentional physical incident until she died.

^^That's as concise as I can get it. You can PM me if you want the gory details, but I'm not making a sympathy plug. That part of my life ended with finality at my mom's passing. My point is I know corporal punishment from my ironically ideal childhood, and I know abuse far more than anyone should, was the entirety of my adolescence in various forms. I've seen my mom battered physically and emotionally, and I've felt the fear. I know what it looks like, and nothing about that video is a loving parent disciplining his/her kid. Combined with the mom's account about how she was abused into teaming up on her daughter, that tells me everything I need to know about the situation to make a damn good educated guess.

 

[irishScott]

Oh and check this out, looks like the cops are interested: http://www.aransascountytx.gov/courtatlaw/

 

[al981]

well, they do tend to be more submissive and take more shit than most other women.

This is all becoming clearer.

And no--when she leaves you, it's because she discovers that you're a piece of shit. has nothing to do with me.

empty words, you're trying too hard to make this personal.

 

[Gooberlx2]

You know what is laughable is all these assumptions.

And yet your posts are rife with them.
"I bet he kept her well and she's getting revenge! Rabble rabble rabble!"

The very fact that the overwhelming majority of posters here (and everywhere else) condemn what he did, and have no problem understanding the difference and boundaries between appropriate corporal punishment vs abuse, should tell you how wrong his actions were. It really should cause you to pause and reflect on your own views about punishment and parenting.

What he did was wrong, clearly. Even if this was the one and only time it ever happened to such severity, it was terrible, fucking awful, parenting. It was abuse. It was assault. There's no justification for it.

 

[zinfamous]

Oh and check this out, looks like the cops are interested: http://www.aransascountytx.gov/courtatlaw/

just google his name, it's gone beyond that.

The DA is making noise, and the county and state called in the Rangers.

 

[rasczak]

bend the fuck over, to get disciplined for pirating material after repeated warnings, is now "abuse". k.




well, time for you to lock up every other parent in the world that has repeatedly disciplined their children with a belt from behind, resulting in the teenager crying.

the pussification of america continues indeed! related link:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2203083

That was NOT corporal punishment by an stretch of the imagination. That was an old fashioned beat down with a belt. The way he was whipping her would leave bruises. When you punish your child, you spank enough to get the point across. He clearly went over the line in this one.

Let me ask you this, would you hit your child like that?

 

[zinfamous]

empty words, you're trying too hard to make this personal.

perhaps you shouldn't make such strong suggestions that you condone beating women.

...seriously, what is it about beating women that gets you off?

 

[BladeVenom]

thats it?

For downloading music and games illegally the dude decides to rampage his daughter's behind?

HOly crap!

The guy must be an RIAA supporter.

 

[al981]

You going to ignore that the DA is pursuing charges on this too?

You think that cussing out your disabled child while beating her with a belt across the back, legs, arms, chest, and head is discipline? Calling her names is discipline? Telling her she doesn't deserve to live in their house is discipline?

Pol Pot called, he wants his book on child-raising tips back.

every single strike was directed towards the buttox / lower region below the waist. sometimes, she tried deflecting by moving her arm in the way. you going to deny that?

it's funny, i've seen caucasian neighbors, one of which worked for the ss, administer loud spankings to disobedient kids that lasted longer than this video. read: bent his kids over his lap and spanked away with a ruler or hand, with the kid crying his ass off. this video is nothing new, nor is it deserving of all the hysteria.

 

[al981]

al981 =

you should be using that for kids like this:

If my dad tried to pull that on me or my family as a teenager I'd have broken his arm. That's a cold, simple fact.

But please, go on and tell me about how I'm a pussy. I could use a good laugh.

 

[zinfamous]

you should be using that for kids like this:

did you read his story? He actually did beat down his dad for abusing his mom.

You'd just stand and watch, get all excited over it--because you're a real man.

 

[ShawnD1]

marked for later

bitch deserved it!!! /ATOT

 

[rasczak]

Oh boy cry me a river. Is this the first parent ever go irate or lose their cool? You know what is laughable is all these assumptions. He beat his wife, she waited 7 years because of fear, etc, etc, etc. I don't know if any of that is true and neither do you. I didn't excuse his lack of control here, but at the same time I also realize he struck only below her waist. And when the wife came him and told him to go out, he did just that. You like so many are just so shocked at a video like that. But in turn you will cry like bloody murder when you see so many kids who just go ballistic with no discipline at all.

I wonder how many of you would have thought the two girls who beat the transgendered girl would have benefited from some corporal punishment. See I understand the role this plays. I see the difference in kids today and those from 20 years ago, when getting whipped with a belt was quite common. I have only two problems with this video. One at 16, she is to old. By then you should be able to meet your kid half way. And two, all those f bombs weren't necessary.

But unlike many, I want to hear his side of the story. If he left her in a heap seriously injured that would be a different story. But that is not what happened. I don't get all emotional at the sight of something that looks bad. Maybe thats a strength of me or as in this case maybe a weakness.

Don't get it twisted, clearly I don't believe hurting some child or anyone. But I just wasn't struck with the vein of disgust after seeing this video like many of you.

I could have sworn at one point he was striking above the waist (upper arm area).

 

[al981]

this is why I still believe that you haven't watched the video. that is not what he said. He sure as fuck didn't "tell her."

You have blinders. I think you're simply getting off on the beating, you disgusting piece of woman-beating filth.

of course that's what he said. "bend over the bed". talk about blinders

 

[al981]

did you read his story? He actually did beat down his dad for abusing his mom.

You'd just stand and watch, get all excited over it--because you're a real man.

what story? never seen, don't really care. though if he's defending his mom from outright physical abuse, then good for him.

try harder with the whole "man" arguments. you're still the one crying over basic discipline with a belt below the waste.

 

[akahoovy]

Sorry to hear about your mom, Irish.

 

[irishScott]

did you read his story? He actually did beat down his dad for abusing his mom.

You'd just stand and watch, get all excited over it--because you're a real man.

Not so much a beat down. He didn't follow through correctly on the judo move, so mom slipped out and was thankfully uninjured. Beating him down could have either put me in jail or worse, made him leave. Given that he was our sole source of income that would mean all of our lives, especially my mom's due to medical bills (experimental surgeries aren't covered under medicare), would then be fucked. Now don't get me wrong if he'd actually seriously injured her then, given my mom's fragile physical state he would have become a lethal threat and would have been treated as such. It was a ridiculously fucked situation.

Let's just say I caught him alone the next day and made it explicitly clear what would happen to him if he ever took it that far again. No bumps or bruises required.

 

[al981]

If my dad tried to pull that on me or my family as a teenager I'd have broken his arm. That's a cold, simple fact.

But please, go on and tell me about how I'm a pussy. I could use a good laugh.

if you repeatedly did something wrong and got whipped below the waist by a belt / ruler / hand, and you responded by breaking your father's arm, then you deserve whatever punishment comes your way. YOU fucked up, not him. this is called discipline, son.

if your father randomly hits you for no reason, when you did no wrong, then feel free to defend yourself.

thanks for the laugh and a failed argument, though.

 

[zinfamous]

if you repeatedly did something wrong and got whipped below the waist by a belt / ruler / hand, and you responded by breaking your father's arm, then you deserve whatever punishment comes your way. YOU fucked up, not him. this is called discipline, son.

if your father randomly hits you for no reason, when you did no wrong, then feel free to defend yourself.

thanks for the laugh and a failed argument, though.

I think TPAD has never been more appropriate...

 

[irishScott]

if you repeatedly did something wrong and got whipped below the waist by a belt / ruler / hand, and you responded by breaking your father's arm, then you deserve whatever punishment comes your way. YOU fucked up, not him. this is called discipline, son.

if your father randomly hits you for no reason, when you did no wrong, then feel free to defend yourself.

thanks for the laugh and a failed argument, though.

You're obviously trolling, not even reading the thread, and you think I give two shits about your opinion? Grow up.

And in the off chance you're not trolling, I pity your wife for marrying a little pissed off prick like you.

 

[irishScott]

Sorry to hear about your mom, Irish.

Thanks. It was a long-time coming, doctors gave her 5 years 13 years ago (only the last 10 really affected her), so rather anti-climactic. She went peacefully, and hell even my dad started treating her.. significantly closer to right over the last few months. Couldn't ask for much more really.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Woah, don't post no shit about my parents again. They did a fine job of raising me and my siblings. All of us have done well. So just stay on the topic of spanking, but keep your comments about other people's parents to your damn self.

No they didn't. You're a disgusting bigot and hypocrite. I hope you never have kids with the sick views you have. If you currently do, mods please find out where he lives and turn his ass in so his poor kids don't have to deal with over the top belt beatings anymore.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Woah, don't post no shit about my parents again. They did a fine job of raising me and my siblings. All of us have done well. So just stay on the topic of spanking, but keep your comments about other people's parents to your damn self.

OK, then I will respond instead.

The fact that you believe what's shown in this video is OK tells me that your parents failed. That failure is even more apparent when I read all of the other misinformed and ignorant things you write on this forum. If your parents beat you, what they did was wrong, but your entire persona here makes it clear they failed in any number of other ways as well. People like you don't come from healthy households or smart, responsible parenting.

If you're going to call a disabled child-abuse victim who you've never met a "fraud" for posting an unaltered video of herself being abused, I'm going to call you a jackass and your parents failures. If you don't do a better job with your own kids, look for them to end up like you - trolls and laughingstocks.

 

[al981]

You're obviously trolling, not even reading the thread, and you think I give two shits about your opinion? Grow up.

And in the off chance you're not trolling, I pity your wife for marrying a little pissed off prick like you.

so which part of post #243 directed at you is incorrect? again, since you missed it or flat out ignored it, if you fucked up and got disciplined for it, especially below the waist, as is what happened in the video, then you have no right to "break your father's arm" as you stated earlier in post #222. following?

i haven't read or seen your real life story, and don't really care to, because "i don't give two shits" about you. and pissed off? hardly. you and many others seem to have taken the video personally and have been raging, but have completely glanced over what it's truly showing. discipline with a belt below the waist. grow up.

 

[akahoovy]

Man, 10 pages rehashed over and over. You guys have quite the stamina!