Judge Alito Victorious in Judiciary Committee

[zendari]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

Yeah, he just *loves* precedent

That statement was from 1985. On one of the many Alito threads, someone posted a series of quotes, by Democrats, that praised Alito's credentials and his capacity for unbiased and impartial judicial review...but some of you claimed those comments were irrelevant as they were nearly a decade old...and that people and opinions change.

Hypocrites.

More likely that quote wasn't known to the Dems at the time.

The papers were from 1985. His hearing was in 1990.

This was just a few posts above:

The June 3, 1985 document was one of 45 released by the National Archives on Friday. A total of 744 pages were made public.

So the Democrats failed to do their homework in 1990?

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

Yeah, he just *loves* precedent

That statement was from 1985. On one of the many Alito threads, someone posted a series of quotes, by Democrats, that praised Alito's credentials and his capacity for unbiased and impartial judicial review...but some of you claimed those comments were irrelevant as they were nearly a decade old...and that people and opinions change.

Hypocrites.

More likely that quote wasn't known to the Dems at the time.

The papers were from 1985. His hearing was in 1990.

This was just a few posts above:

The June 3, 1985 document was one of 45 released by the National Archives on Friday. A total of 744 pages were made public.

So the Democrats failed to do their homework in 1990?

Speaking of homework, are you ever going to get to this?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: conjur
This was just a few posts above:

The June 3, 1985 document was one of 45 released by the National Archives on Friday. A total of 744 pages were made public.

So the Democrats failed to do their homework in 1990?

Kind of hard to go over documents in 1990 that were, oh, I don't know, just released Friday.

:roll:

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: conjur
This was just a few posts above:

The June 3, 1985 document was one of 45 released by the National Archives on Friday. A total of 744 pages were made public.

So the Democrats failed to do their homework in 1990?

Kind of hard to go over documents in 1990 that were, oh, I don't know, just released Friday.

:roll:

If the Democrats were interested in the documents they could have asked for them 16 years ago. Either they were wrong then or wrong now. Which is it?

 

[conjur]

I'm sure they did ask for documents. Is it their fault they weren't provided? And, look at what's going on now. How many documents of Roberts' or Alito's have been withheld? Countless, I'm sure.


Keep on with your apologist spin, zendari. But, the least you could do is post in your "there is no leadership race" thread. You know, give a bit of an update.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: conjur
I'm sure they did ask for documents. Is it their fault they weren't provided? And, look at what's going on now. How many documents of Roberts' or Alito's have been withheld? Countless, I'm sure.

Evidence for the bolded statement? The CAP newsletters would have been freely available in 1990.

The democrats have gotten hundreds and thousands of pages of documents regarding alito and roberts.

 

[conjur]

They didn't get all that they requested, though.


And, what about that "leadership race" thread?

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: conjur
They didn't get all that they requested, though.


And, what about that "leadership race" thread?

In case he can't Find it.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: conjur
They didn't get all that they requested, though.

Some documents were protected. They still got their fair share. Where were their requests in 1990 for these same documents? Why didn't they pick up CAP newsletters off the stand?

Did they not even look at Alito's resume to see that he was a member of CAP? If he and Scalia are such evil guys, hey, the Dumbocrats got fooled! :laugh:

 

[conjur]

I'm not talking about CAP. I'm talking about the items mentioned in my post above. The items that weren't released from the National Archives until last Fri (assuming it was last Fri. and not the week before)

BTW, in his 1990 confirmation hearing, Alito testified he would be impartial to cases involving the government (his client up until that time). Did you know that as a judge he's ruled in favor of the government 90% of the time? That's impartial?



What about that "leadership race" thread, zendari?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: conjur
I'm not talking about CAP. I'm talking about the items mentioned in my post above. The items that weren't released from the National Archives until last Fri (assuming it was last Fri. and not the week before)

BTW, in his 1990 confirmation hearing, Alito testified he would be impartial to cases involving the government (his client up until that time). Did you know that as a judge he's ruled in favor of the government 90% of the time? That's impartial?

I think so, yes. Judge Alito is exceptional. His colleagues think so too.

So, assuming you're right, and the Democrats requested these documents in 1990 and were refused, why wasn't CAP mentioned in 1990?

 

[conjur]

I don't care about CAP. I don't know if it was mentioned in 1990. There's nothing in the transcripts about. What about that "leadership race" thread, zendari? Going to ignore it forever? Going to run and hide?
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As for Alito, there are MANY legal experts, scholars, etc. that have come out in vocal opposition to him. Alito pulled a bait-and-switch after his 1990 nomination. It's no wonder the Propagandist wants him on the SCOTUS. Alito would be another yes-man to further the GOP's aims of one-party rule and a unitary executive.


buh-bye Constitution.

 

[jlmadyson]

More Democrats Get Behind Alito Nomination

Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito, whose confirmation seems certain in the Republican-run Senate, padded his modest Democratic support Thursday with endorsements by Sens. Robert Byrd and Tim Johnson.

Looks like he has enough votes to break any filibuster. Byrd, Johnson and Nelson so far voting in the affirmtive and Landrieu and Salazar stating they will not support a filibuster although Salazar has stated he will vote no on the confirmation.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: jlmadyson
More Democrats Get Behind Alito Nomination

Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito, whose confirmation seems certain in the Republican-run Senate, padded his modest Democratic support Thursday with endorsements by Sens. Robert Byrd and Tim Johnson.

Looks like he has enough votes to break any filibuster. Byrd, Johnson and Nelson so far voting in the affirmtive and Landrieu and Salazar stating they will not support a filibuster although Salazar has stated he will vote no on the confirmation.

I didn't think anyone supported a filibuster. Everyone and their gramma knows he is going to get nominated.

/shrug.

 

[conjur]

"Kerry is now publicly in support of a filibuster and he is currently working with colleagues in the Senate to get the necessary support - 41 votes"

Apparently, calls placed to Kerry's office indicate he's going to go for the filibuster.

 

[jman19]

Originally posted by: Genx87

All 10 Republicans voted for Alito, while all eight Democrats voted against him. The partisan vote was almost preordained, with 15 of the 18 senators announcing their votes even before the committee's session began

Just makes you wonder why they bother if their mind is already made up.

Partisan politics is the name of the game, most of the time...

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

That's the best news I've heard all day, and I love how zenny is ignoring his 'leadership' thread.

 

[jlmadyson]

Originally posted by: conjur
"Kerry is now publicly in support of a filibuster and he is currently working with colleagues in the Senate to get the necessary support - 41 votes"

Apparently, calls placed to Kerry's office indicate he's going to go for the filibuster.

Well as Spector just put it bluntly on the floor of the Senate they have enough to break a filibuster.

55 Reps

3 Dems voting in the affirmative

2 stating they will not support a filibuster on record so far.

Looks like the needed 60 to me.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: conjur
"Kerry is now publicly in support of a filibuster and he is currently working with colleagues in the Senate to get the necessary support - 41 votes"

Apparently, calls placed to Kerry's office indicate he's going to go for the filibuster.

That's kinda funny as Kerry was filibusted by the country! :laugh:

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I don't think that abortion is the real issue here. It's far more cultural IMHO, it just so happens to be that abortion is what ties it all together.

The real divide in this country is between the highly religious folk of the suburbs and rural areas and those that are more secular and educated in their views.

 

[jlmadyson]

Sen. Kerry calls for filibuster of Alito

Unclear if Massachusetts Democrat has votes needed to block nominee

He announced his decision Wednesday to a group of Democratic senators, urging they join him, Henry said. Kerry also has the support of his fellow Massachusetts senator, Democrat Edward Kennedy.

Some senior Democrats said they are worried that the move could backfire.

Senior White House officials said the move makes the Democrats look bad, and Republicans already have enough votes to overcome any filibuster attempt.

As stated before unless he can snag a vote somewhere he doesn't have it atm.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I don't think that abortion is the real issue here. It's far more cultural IMHO, it just so happens to be that abortion is what ties it all together.

The real divide in this country is between the highly religious folk of the suburbs and rural areas and those that are more secular and educated in their views.

The biggest problems I see with Alito are his heavy leanings to siding on the side of government, his apparent desire to see the powers of the Executive branch greatly broadened, and his disdain of Roe v. Wade (and other precedents).