Joke of the Day Thread --> Glenn Beck: ‘I’m out of the Republican Party’

5to1baby1in5

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Not because he had some great revelation and found inner peace, but because the establishment Republicans have disrespected the Tea Party.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/beck-‘i’m-out-of-the-republican-party’/ar-BBimICo?ocid=iehp

I hate to pull a Moonbeam, but it appears the GOP's self hate is going to cause it to fracture and give the Democrats full control again.

They’re taking on people like Mike Lee and Ted Cruz and they’re torpedoing them

Plus throw in a little paranoia...

They set us up. Enough is enough. They’re torpedoing the Constitution and they’re doing it knowingly
They=Mainstream Republicans

Oh yea, and Grover Norquist is also a Muslim Brotherhood sympathizer.
 

Moonbeam

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Not because he had some great revelation and found inner peace, but because the establishment Republicans have disrespected the Tea Party.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/beck-‘i’m-out-of-the-republican-party’/ar-BBimICo?ocid=iehp

I hate to pull a Moonbeam, but it appears the GOP's self hate is going to cause it to fracture and give the Democrats full control again.



Plus throw in a little paranoia...

They=Mainstream Republicans

Oh yea, and Grover Norquist is also a Muslim Brotherhood sympathizer.

Nice to hear the good news about Norquist.
 

tweaker2

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I guess that's one way of getting attention for himself.

He should quit yapping and do som......hey, maybe this is his springboard launch into seeking political office with the hope of representing all those other disaffected, disillusioned, disturbed whack job crazies occupying the loony bin in the Repub's basement.

Well played, Beck, well played.
 

norseamd

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Look if you consider yourself conservative and yet you vote for the Republicans or the Tea Party I am just going to guess that you are dumb and ignorant as all shit and probably not worth dealing with.
 

finglobes

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"Beck’s decision is not his only recent break with conservative ranks"


Lol that's actually a stupid way to report this. Beck and many others have left the GOP because they AREN"T conservative. Polls have been skewed because the ranks of the independents have been swelled with former GOP members who left because GOP is feeble and timid. They try to act and sound like an opposition party but they avoid the battles.

In every recurring CR crisis the GOP shakes in fear of being blamed for gov shutdown, yet they never press the point that the only reason there are CR (continuing resolution on budget) crisis is because Obama has intentionally failed to pass a budget every year - thus locking in the levels from the year when Obama got his Porkulus Bill.
 

Bitek

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"Beck’s decision is not his only recent break with conservative ranks"


Lol that's actually a stupid way to report this. Beck and many others have left the GOP because they AREN"T conservative. Polls have been skewed because the ranks of the independents have been swelled with former GOP members who left because GOP is feeble and timid. They try to act and sound like an opposition party but they avoid the battles.

In every recurring CR crisis the GOP shakes in fear of being blamed for gov shutdown, yet they never press the point that the only reason there are CR (continuing resolution on budget) crisis is because Obama has intentionally failed to pass a budget every year - thus locking in the levels from the year when Obama got his Porkulus Bill.

And it's sentiments like this is why the right is looking to implode.

Yes, what the GOP really needs is more shutdowns driven by far right extremists with no sense of pragmatism or political realism.

Good luck passing a budget this year boys
 

fskimospy

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In every recurring CR crisis the GOP shakes in fear of being blamed for gov shutdown, yet they never press the point that the only reason there are CR (continuing resolution on budget) crisis is because Obama has intentionally failed to pass a budget every year - thus locking in the levels from the year when Obama got his Porkulus Bill.

What the hell does this even mean. I don't know where you got this idea but your understanding about how American government works is badly flawed.

As for Beck, it sounds like someone wants attention. Either that or he's off his meds again.
 

dank69

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Republican Party is RINO... wait... wut? I don't listen to Beck anymore because as Alex Jones pointed out, Beck is a RINO... wait... wut?
 

thraashman

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Well we've discovered the answer to the major recent American political question of "Just how crazy does someone have to be to be too conservative for even Republicans". The answer is, Glenn Beck crazy.
 

Sonikku

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Why stop there? Why not formalize the Tea Party breaking away and becoming a political party in its own right? A true three party system! Things would get back on track around here in an awful hurry.
 

finglobes

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And it's sentiments like this is why the right is looking to implode.

Yes, what the GOP really needs is more shutdowns driven by far right extremists with no sense of pragmatism or political realism.

Good luck passing a budget this year boys


Last year there was the typical sturm and drang over the budget with GOP painted as bad guys but they walloped in the election anyway. Facts are most of the gov doesn't really shut down in a gov shutdown. GOP doesn't even put up a fight and show Dems as cause of shutdowns. They just cowering in the corner.
 

CitizenKain

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Last year there was the typical sturm and drang over the budget with GOP painted as bad guys but they walloped in the election anyway. Facts are most of the gov doesn't really shut down in a gov shutdown. GOP doesn't even put up a fight and show Dems as cause of shutdowns. They just cowering in the corner.

Hahhaa, Dems cause shutdowns. Oh you tea party idiots are so funny.
 

finglobes

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What the hell does this even mean. I don't know where you got this idea but your understanding about how American government works is badly flawed.

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No - my understanding of the CR is fine. Shutdowns happen because Dems refuse to produce a real budget. When there is no budget "baseline spending" kicks in. Gov gets to spend according to previous budgets. When Obama got the "stimulus" (that WSJ found only 22% stimulating - the rest was pork) in 2009 it became part of the budget.

Then Obama intentionally created ridiculous budgets (by law he has to create a budget) that got voted down unanimously. When there are no budgets passed - no passed appropriations bills - we get these ridiculous "continuing resolutions" that Dems and MSM portray as national emergencies without really explaining how they came to be in the first place.

The continuing resolutions have used baseline spending so that Obama's "one time" porkulous has been a continuing budget suck:

Wall St Journal in 2012:

"Most of the $830 billion stimulus of 2009 has now become part of the federal budget baseline. The "emergency" spending of the stimulus has now become permanent, as we predicted it would."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323894704578113033115035920


Its no accident Obama has been presided over 5 of 6 biggest deficits in history.



"When Congress and the president FAIL to agree on and pass one or more of the regular appropriations bills, a continuing resolution can be passed instead. A continuing resolution continues the pre-existing appropriations at the same levels as the previous fiscal year (or with minor modifications) for a set amount of time.[2] Continuing resolutions typically provide funding at a rate or formula based on the previous year's funding."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuing_Appropriations_Resolution,_2015
 
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touchstone

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glen beck is an interesting character, i believe he is completely self-taught and a former drug addict or drunk (i think drug addict). he makes more money than hannity iirc and he doesnt exactly tow the party line hence his removal from fox
 

cbrunny

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And he doesn't even know why GOP gained seats in the midterms.

Doesn't the party opposite the sitting president win majority in the sitting president's second mid-term basically all the time? Or something like that?
 

dank69

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Doesn't the party opposite the sitting president win majority in the sitting president's second mid-term basically all the time? Or something like that?
That probably depends more on the state of the economy. Typically the GOP does better on all midterms regardless of who is President. Dems are a lazy bunch. :(
 

fskimospy

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No - my understanding of the CR is fine. Shutdowns happen because Dems refuse to produce a real budget. When there is no budget "baseline spending" kicks in. Gov gets to spend according to previous budgets. When Obama got the "stimulus" (that WSJ found only 22% stimulating - the rest was pork) in 2009 it became part of the budget.

Right, so you just admitted you have no idea what you're talking about.

1. Budgets are nonbinding documents that frequently have nothing to do with the appropriations bills that are passed. If you're talking about appropriations bills, they do not require a budget to be created by anyone in order to be passed.

2. When appropriations are not passed 'baseline spending' does not kick in and the government most certainly does not get to spend according to previous budgets. This is a basic lack of understanding of how government works.

3. If you're talking about mandatory spending that continues then there's no point in bringing up appropriations bills anyway, as mandatory spending doesn't rely on them. (or budget documents) Hence the name.

Then Obama intentionally created ridiculous budgets (by law he has to create a budget) that got voted down unanimously. When there are no budgets passed - no passed appropriations bills - we get these ridiculous "continuing resolutions" that Dems and MSM portray as national emergencies without really explaining how they came to be in the first place.

Continuing resolutions are nothing more than appropriations bills by another name. Saying no appropriations bills are passed so we get a continuing resolution (which is an appropriations bill) is bizarre. Your insane conspiracy theories about Obama and the media are noted though.

The continuing resolutions have used baseline spending so that Obama's "one time" porkulous has been a continuing budget suck:

This is another fundamental lack of understanding about the ARRA. Stimulus spending was not only a good portion tax cuts, but it doesn't all somehow get added into baseline budgeting.

Wall St Journal in 2012:

"Most of the $830 billion stimulus of 2009 has now become part of the federal budget baseline. The "emergency" spending of the stimulus has now become permanent, as we predicted it would."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323894704578113033115035920

Its no accident Obama has been presided over 5 of 6 biggest deficits in history.

That's interesting, considering that real per capita spending has been declining for years now. Shocker that yet again the WSJ is clueless, and that you believed them.

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Also, what you're saying about deficits is only true if you fail to adjust for % of GDP, which makes absolutely no sense.

I strongly suggest you go learn more about the appropriations process, the difference between mandatory and discretionary spending and how appropriations bills fit in there, the role of budgets in these matters, and hopefully stop getting bad info from the folks at the WSJ.

Again, you seem to be getting a lot of really bad information from somewhere, probably all the ultra-right wing websites that you read. Don't be so easily duped.
 

zinfamous

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"Beck’s decision is not his only recent break with conservative ranks"


Lol that's actually a stupid way to report this. Beck and many others have left the GOP because they AREN"T conservative. Polls have been skewed because the ranks of the independents have been swelled with former GOP members who left because GOP is feeble and timid. They try to act and sound like an opposition party but they avoid the battles.

In every recurring CR crisis the GOP shakes in fear of being blamed for gov shutdown, yet they never press the point that the only reason there are CR (continuing resolution on budget) crisis is because Obama has intentionally failed to pass a budget every year - thus locking in the levels from the year when Obama got his Porkulus Bill.

well, that's one completely uninformed way to look at it, I guess.
 

tweaker2

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Why stop there? Why not formalize the Tea Party breaking away and becoming a political party in its own right? A true three party system! Things would get back on track around here in an awful hurry.

Now that would be a really interesting situation. I'd actually like to see that happen some fine day.

Problem is the Tea Party and the Parent Repub Party is like a set of narcissistic twins tangled in a heated love-hate relationship.

The nation suffers greatly from that dysfunctional pairing and that gawd-awful relationship exists only because they have a common enemy.
 
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Mxylplyx

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So it sounds like Beck and some of his hard right wing supporters are upset because the Republicans didnt follow through and actually shoot the hostage, ie the US government. Is it too hard for these people to understand that with a popularly elected democratic president, and a less than filibuster proof senate majority, you simply DONT get to push through your agenda without compromise? No amount of "fight" the Republicans put up will change that.
 

tweaker2

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Let's put things into perspective here. Imagine the following luminaries that regularly represent and speak for the Conservative viewpoint: Bill O'Reilly as POTUS, Limbaugh as VP, Hannity as COS, McCain as SECDEF, Palin as SECSTATE and the Tea Party taking over the Repub Party with Beck heading the newly formed TPNC.

Now let that sink in for a few.....