John shaming?

Markbnj

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Read this today in the western world's best online newspaper... just kidding, it was the Daily Maul... er Daily Fail... whatever.

John shaming, a practice in which the police catch you soliciting a prostitute and post your picture and name on Facebook.

Now I am neither for nor against prostitutes who are not working the street I live on. But I am pretty sure I am against the police arresting, convicting, and punishing people all in one evening.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...acebook-latest-tactic-fight-prostitution.html
 

Ruptga

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If that happened to me and I were innocent and loaded (unlikely, I know), I'd sue the shit out of them no matter the cost. Posting names of the convicted is one thing, posting names of the accused is completely different.
 

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Arrest records are public, and they should be in order to prevent secret detainment. So "posting" the names of the arrested online doesn't by itself seem like an abuse. But this is clearly being done as punishment, and it is not the place of the police to punish people.
 

Thump553

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Papers in both the US and UK have published arrest logs for centuries. What's the difference?
 

shortylickens

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Good.
When the cops get sued they can go back to hustling jaywalkers for 10 bucks a pop.
 

Markbnj

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Papers in both the US and UK have published arrest logs for centuries. What's the difference?

The fact that the police have decided to disseminate the information as widely as possible specifically as a punishment.

For example, if they do not post all arrest records on Facebook they would have a hard time justifying this practice using the "public notice" argument.
 

lxskllr

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The fact that the police have decided to disseminate the information as widely as possible specifically as a punishment.

For example, if they do not post all arrest records on Facebook they would have a hard time justifying this practice using the "public notice" argument.

Besides, it's all just gossip fodder for worthless old women and tattletales. If they were really concerned about transparency and "justice", they'd post the disposition of cases in a format that's as easily digestible as an arrest record. The whole purpose of publishing that stuff is to draw easy ad views, and to be cunts.
 

alkemyst

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IMHO prostitution should not be a crime unless it's a problem with local businesses.

I have never paid for sex (directly, sex always is a cost).
 

Fritzo

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When my wife was a cop and she caught men picking up whores, she would call their wives to come pick them up :D

It was her way of revenge. These guys are sleeping with these nasty crack heads and coming home to their wives with who-knows-what diseases.
 

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When my wife was a cop and she caught men picking up whores, she would call their wives to come pick them up :D

It was her way of revenge. These guys are sleeping with these nasty crack heads and coming home to their wives with who-knows-what diseases.

Gonna go out on a limb here and guess that their options with taking care of things at home were exhausted. Doubt their wives had any ground to stand on.
 

alkemyst

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When my wife was a cop and she caught men picking up whores, she would call their wives to come pick them up :D

It was her way of revenge. These guys are sleeping with these nasty crack heads and coming home to their wives with who-knows-what diseases.

She called them?
 

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The practice described in the original post, I think, is wrong. Seems like abuse of power
 

mmntech

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I don't know about the UK but I'm pretty sure such practices are unconstitutional here in North America. Not that our officials have ever let that annoying little detail stop them before.

Jim Norton did an article for Time about this.
http://time.com/3087616/defense-johns-legalize-prostitution/

I think it's time to legalize and regulate it. Won't solve the problem but will go a long way to lessening it's burden on society.
 

sandorski

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I don't know about the UK but I'm pretty sure such practices are unconstitutional here in North America. Not that our officials have ever let that annoying little detail stop them before.

Jim Norton did an article for Time about this.
http://time.com/3087616/defense-johns-legalize-prostitution/

I think it's time to legalize and regulate it. Won't solve the problem but will go a long way to lessening it's burden on society.

I vaguely remember this happening when I was younger(probably late '70's/early '80's) in Vancouver. I'm not sure how long it was in affect, I just recall the news coverage about it.

If my dates are correct it would have pre-dated the Constitution though.
 

Fritzo

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She called them?

She would say "You're going to jail, is there anyone we can call to get you out?" They would always give their home phone number, and she would call home and tell the wife her husband was picked up for soliciting, come and get him.
 

Jeff7

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I don't know about the UK but I'm pretty sure such practices are unconstitutional here in North America. Not that our officials have ever let that annoying little detail stop them before.

Jim Norton did an article for Time about this.
http://time.com/3087616/defense-johns-legalize-prostitution/

I think it's time to legalize and regulate it. Won't solve the problem but will go a long way to lessening it's burden on society.
Bah. We'll just keep doing what we try to do with most of our problems: Bury them and pretend they don't exist, and/or create a business that makes the problem profitable and sustainable.




She would say "You're going to jail, is there anyone we can call to get you out?" They would always give their home phone number, and she would call home and tell the wife her husband was picked up for soliciting, come and get him.
"Are you serious? I'm the one who sent him out there in the first place so he'd leave me alone!"
 

JEDI

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Read this today in the western world's best online newspaper... just kidding, it was the Daily Maul... er Daily Fail... whatever.

John shaming, a practice in which the police catch you soliciting a prostitute and post your picture and name on Facebook.

Now I am neither for nor against prostitutes who are not working the street I live on. But I am pretty sure I am against the police arresting, convicting, and punishing people all in one evening.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...acebook-latest-tactic-fight-prostitution.html

guess this is when the john arrived by foot.
if he was in a car solitciting a hooker, the police can seize the car because it was used in the commission of a crime.
 

Fritzo

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"Are you serious? I'm the one who sent him out there in the first place so he'd leave me alone!"

LOL- that literally never ever happened. What always happened was an angry wife showing up beating the snot out of her cheating husband :D
 

sdifox

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I can't remember where, but an Asian country (either Thailand, Indonesia or China) would stamp your passport to mark you as a john if you are caught.
 

WelshBloke

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I don't know about the UK but I'm pretty sure such practices are unconstitutional here in North America. Not that our officials have ever let that annoying little detail stop them before.

Stories about California in the US not California in Norfolk UK isn't it.