John Deere vs CAT vs CASE IH...

[dug777]

Farm i work for has a huge CAT header (well, 42' comb), a big CAT Challenger tracked tractor, and a big CASE IH wheeled tractor. They're all pretty sweet, but i hear the odd farmer spanking their monkey about their John Deere units. JD's resale value is pretty hawt too...

I suspect those people are just willing to pay a premium for a vast green piece of farm equipment

The header replaced an old New Holland TR 86, the difference is like night & day, and yield mapping>j00 All GPS mapped & coordinated with the spraying/fertilising now

 

[MikeMike]

well, seeing as how right now im in farm capital of frickin nothing, indiana.

you can typically find large tractors at specialized dealers, just for farm equipment. Sorta like excavating equipment.

There are specialized dealers, and if you call JD, Cat, CASE, they will locate the nearest ones to you for you, since this is big money equipment they are typically VERY helpful.

 

[Kenazo]

A header just goes on the front of a Combine, unless you crazy australians call things differently than us Canadians do.

 

[Kenazo]

A header just goes on the front of a Combine, unless you crazy australians call things differently than us Canadians do.

Mmm.. double posting goodness.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Kenazo
A header just goes on the front of a Combine, unless you crazy australians call things differently than us Canadians do.

Mmm.. double posting goodness.

that's what we call the 'comb'

The machine itself is a 'header'

 

[ElMonoDelMar]

How can you farm with all of the sand?

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar
How can you farm with all of the sand?

If you fertilise right, you can grow in sand no worries mate

 

[MrMaster]

why are you asking about farm machinery on AT? How many here have actually even seen a tractor?

My dad sold CaseIH (IH before the buyout) and Gehl for 35 years so I wouldn't be the right one to ask.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: MrMaster
why are you asking about farm machinery on AT? How many here have actually even seen a tractor?

My dad sold CaseIH (IH before the buyout) and Gehl for 35 years so I wouldn't be the right one to ask.

some of you have to be Iowa farmboys i figure

 

[skyking]

The top contenders swap places from time to time, and I have no idea about farm equipment.

My personal preference for excavators is Hitachi/John Deere, then CAT.
Dozers? CAT!
Loaders? Kawasaki, CAT, John Deere.

 

[PAB]

Originally posted by: MrMaster
why are you asking about farm machinery on AT? How many here have actually even seen a tractor?

My dad sold CaseIH (IH before the buyout) and Gehl for 35 years so I wouldn't be the right one to ask.

*raises hand*

I just tried buying a Case 885 last week but I couldn't get a good price so I passed. I'm going to look at some 8N's on Monday.

 

[Kenazo]

Anyway, I live in a huge agricultural area here, and it seems that Case IH is the most popular in our area, though there is a strong JD presence too. I'm sure you wouldn't go wrong with any of the major brands though. What's locally servicable in your area?

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: Kenazo
Anyway, I live in a huge agricultural area here, and it seems that Case IH is the most popular in our area, though there is a strong JD presence too. I'm sure you wouldn't go wrong with any of the major brands though. What's locally servicable in your area?

We've had a great run with CAT, i was just interested to see if any of ya were JD fans...

 

[ElMonoDelMar]

Originally posted by: MrMaster
why are you asking about farm machinery on AT? How many here have actually even seen a tractor?

I'm actually an Agricultural Engineer at the University of Illinois and I hope to be working for John Deere after I graduate. I've heard they make some of the best farm equipment, but they do charge a lot for it. It seems that most people in my area are willing to shell out the extra bucks for the peace of mind that having solid equipment wil bring.

Some of my professors are leading the way in precision agriculture research for Deere and other agricultural equipment manufacturers. From what they've told me, precision ag can save a lot of money and vastly increase the yield. Very interesting stuff.

Edit: For tha Grammar Nazis

 

[Sukhoi]

Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar

Originally posted by: MrMaster
why are you asking about farm machinery on AT? How many here have actually even seen a tractor?

I'm actually an Agricultural Engineer at the University of Illinos and I hope to be working for John Deere after I graduate. I've heard they make some of the best farm equipment, but they do charge a lot for it. It seems that most people in my area are willing to shell out the extra bucks for the peace of mind that having solid equipment wil bring.

Some of my professors are leading the way in precision agriculture research for Deere and other agricultural equipment manufacturers. From what they've told me, precision ag can save a lot of money and vastly increase the yield. Very interesting stuff.

Oh really?

 

[BlackAdam]

Was I the only one opening this thread thinking I was going to see a video of a John Deere running over a cat?

 

[Yzzim]

Originally posted by: dug777
Farm i work for has a huge CAT header (well, 42' comb), a big CAT Challenger tracked tractor, and a big CASE IH wheeled tractor. They're all pretty sweet, but i hear the odd farmer spanking their monkey about their John Deere units. JD's resale value is pretty hawt too...

I suspect those people are just willing to pay a premium for a vast green piece of farm equipment

The header replaced an old New Holland TR 86, the difference is like night & day, and yield mapping>j00 All GPS mapped & coordinated with the spraying/fertilising now

I do some work for the company that manufactures the Challenger. Quite the machine.

 

[Kenazo]

Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar

Originally posted by: MrMaster
why are you asking about farm machinery on AT? How many here have actually even seen a tractor?

I'm actually an Agricultural Engineer at the University of Illinos and I hope to be working for John Deere after I graduate. I've heard they make some of the best farm equipment, but they do charge a lot for it. It seems that most people in my area are willing to shell out the extra bucks for the peace of mind that having solid equipment wil bring.

Some of my professors are leading the way in precision agriculture research for Deere and other agricultural equipment manufacturers. From what they've told me, precision ag can save a lot of money and vastly increase the yield. Very interesting stuff.

I don't think it's so much that JD makes that much better of a piece of equipment as they are far better at marketing.

 

[Sukhoi]

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: dug777
Farm i work for has a huge CAT header (well, 42' comb), a big CAT Challenger tracked tractor, and a big CASE IH wheeled tractor. They're all pretty sweet, but i hear the odd farmer spanking their monkey about their John Deere units. JD's resale value is pretty hawt too...

I suspect those people are just willing to pay a premium for a vast green piece of farm equipment

The header replaced an old New Holland TR 86, the difference is like night & day, and yield mapping>j00 All GPS mapped & coordinated with the spraying/fertilising now

I do some work for the company that manufactures the Challenger. Quite the machine.

That's not CAT?

And CAT HR/recruiting are a bunch of a-holes it seems. I did so much work and they wouldn't even give me a first-round on-campus interview. Lets see:

Good GPA
Specific course in off-road vehicle design
Three summer internships including two in manufacturing
Spoke to them at three career fairs
Applied on their website twice
Had recommendation from employee
Directly contacted several managers of that employee and those people said they would forward my info to the recruiters

Never heard a peep from them. Not even selected as an alternate. My guess as of the problem? I'm a white male. Fvcking discriminatory hiring practices.

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: ElMonoDelMar

Originally posted by: MrMaster
why are you asking about farm machinery on AT? How many here have actually even seen a tractor?

I'm actually an Agricultural Engineer at the University of Illinos and I hope to be working for John Deere after I graduate. I've heard they make some of the best farm equipment, but they do charge a lot for it. It seems that most people in my area are willing to shell out the extra bucks for the peace of mind that having solid equipment wil bring.

Some of my professors are leading the way in precision agriculture research for Deere and other agricultural equipment manufacturers. From what they've told me, precision ag can save a lot of money and vastly increase the yield. Very interesting stuff.

in the right situation, precision ag is a winnar. just got to be very careful you don't over-capitalise...

 

[ElMonoDelMar]

Originally posted by: Sukhoi

Originally posted by: Yzzim

Originally posted by: dug777
Farm i work for has a huge CAT header (well, 42' comb), a big CAT Challenger tracked tractor, and a big CASE IH wheeled tractor. They're all pretty sweet, but i hear the odd farmer spanking their monkey about their John Deere units. JD's resale value is pretty hawt too...

I suspect those people are just willing to pay a premium for a vast green piece of farm equipment

The header replaced an old New Holland TR 86, the difference is like night & day, and yield mapping>j00 All GPS mapped & coordinated with the spraying/fertilising now

I do some work for the company that manufactures the Challenger. Quite the machine.

That's not CAT?

And CAT HR/recruiting are a bunch of a-holes it seems. I did so much work and they wouldn't even give me a first-round on-campus interview. Lets see:

Good GPA
Specific course in off-road vehicle design
Three summer internships including two in manufacturing
Spoke to them at three career fairs
Applied on their website twice
Had recommendation from employee
Directly contacted several managers of that employee and those people said they would forward my info to the recruiters

Never heard a peep from them. Not even selected as an alternate. My guess as of the problem? I'm a white male. Fvcking discriminatory hiring practices.

Should have done pullers. Then they'd take you for sure.

Oh and don't major in ME because it's lame

 

[dugweb]

My family has stuck exclusively with John Deere. The combine we use is new this year, and we use it to cut barley. It goes quick (5+ mph) and never clogs up (30' header)

other tractors are the track tractors (tank treads) which are kinda nice. I've never driven any other tractor before, but the JD's transmissions could use some work it seems like. They can really jump when you are shifting gears (could be the same on all tractors, but i dont know)

 

[Rogodin2]

I've used JD combines, tractors, and swathers. I've also used AC tractors, Case Swathers, Steiger tractors and NewHolland tractors. I've always like the JD units the best-mainly because they didn't break down as much as the other manufacturers I've had experience with.

Rogo

 

[jimbob200521]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: MrMaster
why are you asking about farm machinery on AT? How many here have actually even seen a tractor?

My dad sold CaseIH (IH before the buyout) and Gehl for 35 years so I wouldn't be the right one to ask.

some of you have to be Iowa farmboys i figure

Illinois farmboy, actually

Ford/New Holland is very big around here, and it's about the only large farm equipment that I've dealt with. But I have heard that JD combines use a lot of hydrolics as opposed to belt's to drive most of the thrashing etc equipment inside the combine. The problem with that, again, so I've heard, is that they have a problem with the hoses breaking or leaking. Other companies that use belts in their Combines (NH) also have belts break, but, imo, it's easier to replace a belt than a hose or fitting and replace the hydrolic fluid you've lost.

Edit: One of the hydrolic hoses on our New Holland TR99 last year had a nasty leak while opening up a field and by the time we realized that it was leaking, we were wayyyyy back in the field. We had lost so much pressure that we couldn't even life the head up! When all was said and done, we were only down for about half an hour, but it sucked none the less. I guses thats why I'm not a big fan of JD combines.

 

[MrMaster]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: MrMaster
why are you asking about farm machinery on AT? How many here have actually even seen a tractor?

My dad sold CaseIH (IH before the buyout) and Gehl for 35 years so I wouldn't be the right one to ask.

some of you have to be Iowa farmboys i figure

WI actually