Can someone please explain to me how John Connor is leader of the Resistance and then sends back Kyle Reese, who fathers him?
How does John Connor exists in the original timeline?
How does John Connor exists in the original timeline?
John Connor and Kyle Reese
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BrunoPuntzJones
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Schrodinger ?
Maybe there is a parallel universe where the terminator doesn't kill him and the film jumps between them?
Maybe there is a parallel universe where the terminator doesn't kill him and the film jumps between them?
Maybe it happened the same last time, that he was conceived by Reese from the future..
Yes yes, I know there are questions about this too, it is quite complicated. I agree it doesn't quite feel realistic.
Yes yes, I know there are questions about this too, it is quite complicated. I agree it doesn't quite feel realistic.
scorpmatt
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What does Oak Park cemetary have to do with this?? The only thing it shows us is that the guy who played George McFly wanted too much money to play him again.
Time is an illusion. drink more :beer:
edit: after a beer, I have a thought. Jon knew that the Terminator was being sent back there to kill him so he sent Kyle. Kyle found by some means that Jon's real father had been killed and took it upon himself to father the child that had not been born yet.
Yet another problem with time travel. Until it actually happens (...) we'll find plot-holes in any movie relating to it. Just get over it.
This is what I always assumed. I always had the impression that the John in the future knew who his dad was. That is why he gave Reese the picture of Sarah.
That was the underlying irony of the movie, that skynet created itself by sending the terminator, and also created John Connor, it's worst enemy, at the same time.
Edit: coma my mortal enemy one day I will smite thee.
Edit: coma my mortal enemy one day I will smite thee.
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
unlike the rest of the movie?
Rofl ofcourse
Yet, the robots are more believable than that.
PottedMeat
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Was quake2 the first game with a railgun that left a glowing spiral trail?
Did q2 come out befor eraser?
logical answer: it looks cool. sure it gives the shooters location away, but what fun is a silent nearly untracable weapon?
It's a paradox.
Reese fathers Jon Conner, Jon Grows up sends Reese back in time and He is fathered again. It's cyclical event, it's like the chicken or the egg, which came 1st? You can have one without the other. Since time( as we know it) flows in one direction, when something is put into the time line it is a part of it regardless of where it came from. So Reese fathers Jon, Jon grows up hearing about his father and knows his name. When Jon is afforded the opportunity to send someone back in time to stop the terminator from killing Sarah, he knows it must be Reese.
It's complicated. Don't think about it.
Reese fathers Jon Conner, Jon Grows up sends Reese back in time and He is fathered again. It's cyclical event, it's like the chicken or the egg, which came 1st? You can have one without the other. Since time( as we know it) flows in one direction, when something is put into the time line it is a part of it regardless of where it came from. So Reese fathers Jon, Jon grows up hearing about his father and knows his name. When Jon is afforded the opportunity to send someone back in time to stop the terminator from killing Sarah, he knows it must be Reese.
It's complicated. Don't think about it.
Skynet helped create itself in 2 different ways, sending back the first terminator to deliver CPUs and electronics that didn't exist yet, then sending back the t-x to spread the virus and have itself activated.
The franchise is built on the oldest sci-fi killing-your-own-grandfather cliches, but is still fun to watch.
The franchise is built on the oldest sci-fi killing-your-own-grandfather cliches, but is still fun to watch.
That's why it is called a paradox, the effect preceeds the cause and causes all sorts of problems.
It's a temporal causality loop. A=B. B=C. C=A
It was never about stoping the machines from killing Sarah Conner or John Conner.
It was never about preventing the war with the machines.
It may never have been about stopping the war, but John Connor had to live atleast to lead the Resistance.
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