Joe Biden tells coal miners they can "learn how to program"

[blackangst1]

Trump supporters love free stuff, it just has to be free stuff for them. Republicans generally feel this way, that's why they hated the auto bailout (going to people they thought were Democrats) and loved the farm bailout (going to people they thought were Republicans).

And people question why Republicans are the identity politics party.

Wow. Thats backwards as fuck.

 

[brandonbull]

Wow. Thats backwards as fuck.

Some people have reached new heights of nonsense and the blind, fanatical hate for Trump is scary. The hate Trump lemming train has people feeling sorry for and supporting terrorists because they are so invested in unfounded hate.

 

[ivwshane]

Some people have reached new heights of nonsense and the blind, fanatical hate for Trump is scary. The hate Trump lemming train has people feeling sorry for and supporting terrorists because they are so invested in unfounded hate.

And trump cult members have such a hard on for trump that they make up bull shit about those that don’t have a hard on for him.

No one feels sorry for the people that were killed. I do feel sorry for the Americans that will surely be impacted by this shortsighted action, their blood will be on your hands.

 

[Vic]

Some people have reached new heights of nonsense and the blind, fanatical hate for Trump is scary. The hate Trump lemming train has people feeling sorry for and supporting terrorists because they are so invested in unfounded hate.

Everyone who says something you disagree with is a terrorist who hates your freedoms, aren't they?

 

[Vic]

Wow. Thats backwards as fuck.

Nope.

 

[brycejones]

Some people have reached new heights of nonsense and the blind, fanatical hate for Trump is scary. The hate Trump lemming train has people feeling sorry for and supporting terrorists because they are so invested in unfounded hate.

once again you miss the fucking point

 

[JEDIYoda]

Some people have reached new heights of nonsense and the blind, fanatical hate for Trump is scary. The hate Trump lemming train has people feeling sorry for and supporting terrorists because they are so invested in unfounded hate.

You are 100% correct!! They are invested in unfounded hate -- They are invested all in on TRUMP!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

once again you miss the fucking point

he does that on purpose! he has to feed us the BS that his handler feeds him!!

 

[fskimospy]

Wow. Thats backwards as fuck.

I agree, conservatives rail against identity politics without realizing they are the biggest peddlers of it. It’s sad, really.

 

[Meghan54]

The arrogance of this... I guess it isn't surprising seeing as to whom it's coming from.

So, facts are arrogant I take it? Damn you are willingly stupidly dumb.

 

[cytg111]

Diversity is a matter of perspective. Older black voters prefer Biden. Maybe we shouldn’t judge the quality of a candidate field by how many different M&Ms we can see.

Sometimes its better not to speak. You should not have posted that.

 

[cytg111]

The arrogance of this... I guess it isn't surprising seeing as to whom it's coming from.

Need a tissue with those flakes?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Sometimes its better not to speak. You should not have posted that.

Why? Diversity is a matter of perspective. There’s been countless articles questioning why some candidates connect with voters while others do not, even when their identity would seemingly make them a lock. Harris was initially thought to be a lock because of her identity, and she got taken to the mat.

Quite a few articles out there that explore frustration amongst young progressive black voters, particularly women, because their elders prefer Biden over more progressive candidates because he is a known entity. Do you dispute this?

Which is entirely what this thread is about. Coal miners, like many blue collar workers and different demographics, have been economically left behind. The how and the why varies, but the underlying plight is not dissimilar. The crack epidemic of the 90s and the opioid crisis today have similar root causes.

How do you connect with those voters? By what unites them, which is socio economic in nature, not identity.

 

[cytg111]

Why? Diversity is a matter of perspective. There’s been countless articles questioning why some candidates connect with voters while others do not, even when their identity would seemingly make them a lock. Harris was initially thought to be a lock because of her identity, and she got taken to the mat.

Quite a few articles out there that explore frustration amongst young progressive black voters, particularly women, because their elders prefer Biden over more progressive candidates because he is a known entity. Do you dispute this?

Which is entirely what this thread is about. Coal miners, like many blue collar workers and different demographics, have been economically left behind. The how and the why varies, but the underlying plight is not dissimilar. The crack epidemic of the 90s and the opioid crisis today have similar root causes.

How do you connect with those voters? By what unites them, which is socio economic in nature, not identity.

Ssssh

 

[Starbuck1975]

Ssssh

Sorry! Go take your nap.

 

[Pohemi]

So anyone working menial/unskilled labor for minimum wages should just find a better job, get more training, go back to school for an education, or find some goddamn bootstraps.

However...these poor, unfortunate coal workers that never learned a fucking thing after leaving school in 5th grade to work the pits need all the help, protection, etc to keep their existing jobs even though the industry is dying....

Nobody sees the disconnect, here?!

 

[ch33zw1z]

So anyone working menial/unskilled labor for minimum wages should just find a better job, get more training, go back to school for an education, or find some goddamn bootstraps.

However...these poor, unfortunate coal workers that never learned a fucking thing after leaving school in 5th grade to work the pits need all the help, protection, etc to keep their existing jobs even though the industry is dying....

Nobody sees the disconnect, here?!

It's a result of cognitive dissonance. The conflicting ideals leads to mental stress, anger, and the GOP (including Trump) are perfectly fine providing a target of that. Liberals. MSM. Foreigners. Non Christian's (even christian liberals, cuz they're liberals). It's all about feels.

If you're not a die hard conservative, and ultimately white and christian, you don't deserve anything from this great country that God created.

 

[nexus5rocks]

Are you saying coal miners have lower learning ability than elementary school students? Cuz the kids are learning coding now.

pretty much. it's like trying to teach an old dog new tricks. not gonna happen.

and it’s not just about learning to code. it’s learning to code proficiently enough to be competitive with those who are graduating with fresh degrees or those with a few years of experience already. Why would an employer invest in a 50 year old when the pool of 20 year old talent is readily available?

 

[nexus5rocks]

I have a new headline...

@SP33Demon tells coal miners "you are not capable of learning"

it's pretty much true. they can learn to code (if you consider outputting "Hello world!" as coding) but whatever they learn won't be applicable and useful in the real world, esp when pitted against younger people who are more proficient and have years of longevity ahead.

 

[fskimospy]

it's pretty much true. they can learn to code (if you consider outputting "Hello world!" as coding) but whatever they learn won't be applicable and useful in the real world, esp when pitted against younger people who are more proficient and have years of longevity ahead.

Meh, plenty of the work is commoditized now and while maybe they won’t command as high salaries as other people there’s almost certainly a livable wage they could command.

As for years of longevity most businesses aren’t expecting people to stick around for decades anyway so that doesn’t matter much.

 

[Jhhnn]

I agree, conservatives rail against identity politics without realizing they are the biggest peddlers of it. It’s sad, really.

I's astounding, isn't it? That's what the whole culture war is about, frightened White People circling the wagons against an enemy that isn't an enemy at all. It's the rest of America holding to the Constitution & the rules of honest Democracy even as conservatives are willing to abandon them.

 

[uallas5]

I think "learn how to Code" is itself code, it just means find another career path because what you're doing now is going away. It's no different than being a sail-maker when the world was switching from sail to steam, or a buggy whip maker, etc.

Unfortunately there's a lot more to that. You're not just changing one job for another. You're giving up on your cultural identity. Face it, if no one in your family was ever a coal miner, why the F would you want to be one. But if your father, grandfather, uncles, neighbors were coal miners, yeah there's an identity there. And it's an identity that's been romanticized and glorified beyond its reality and importance in the grand economic scheme of things. That's a lot to give up.

Plus the region is bound up in that culture, making leaving especially hard. Because, face it, retraining for another job isn't going to cut it. Many of these people, esp the younger ones, need to get the hell out of there. Jobs are not going to come flooding into the area just because a bunch of them are now coders, or plumbers, or carpenters, or whatever.

People might complain about immigrants\migrants taking their jobs because maybe they're willing to work for less but there's another reason nobody mentions: THEY"RE MIGRANTS. They're willing to go to where the jobs are, whatever those jobs might be. They're the ones that have no problem picking up and moving if that's what's necessary. You think some guy that just traveled 1000's of miles and possibly risked the lives of themselves and their family for a better life is going to give 2 shits about moving from AZ to VT or NB or wherever?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Why? Diversity is a matter of perspective. There’s been countless articles questioning why some candidates connect with voters while others do not, even when their identity would seemingly make them a lock. Harris was initially thought to be a lock because of her identity, and she got taken to the mat.

Quite a few articles out there that explore frustration amongst young progressive black voters, particularly women, because their elders prefer Biden over more progressive candidates because he is a known entity. Do you dispute this?

Which is entirely what this thread is about. Coal miners, like many blue collar workers and different demographics, have been economically left behind. The how and the why varies, but the underlying plight is not dissimilar. The crack epidemic of the 90s and the opioid crisis today have similar root causes.

How do you connect with those voters? By what unites them, which is socio economic in nature, not identity.

Could it be *gasp* that people really aren't as stupid as someone that votes based on skin color? That in fact when Tulsi mopped the floor with her on the debate and she became exposed for putting tons of people in jail for minor offenses people actually didn't like her anymore?

Crazy I know - But remember folks, vote based on things people are born with like skin color and gender.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

It's a result of cognitive dissonance. The conflicting ideals leads to mental stress, anger, and the GOP (including Trump) are perfectly fine providing a target of that. Liberals. MSM. Foreigners. Non Christian's (even christian liberals, cuz they're liberals). It's all about feels.

If you're not a die hard conservative, and ultimately white and christian, you don't deserve anything from this great country that God created.

Not really - there are 2 types of people in life: Folks that see a prosective goal and say "How can I get there?" and others that say "What are some reasons to tell myself why I can't get there?"

Plenty of people are hired for jobs not always based on their past skills - but moreso on their attitude and general willingness to work hard and learn.

 

[Vic]

Could it be *gasp* that people really aren't as stupid as someone that votes based on skin color? That in fact when Tulsi mopped the floor with her on the debate and she became exposed for putting tons of people in jail for minor offenses people actually didn't like her anymore?

Crazy I know - But remember folks, vote based on things people are born with like skin color and gender.

Lol, the poster who only cares about Appalachian coal miners because they're white and vote Republican, and who demands bootstraps for everyone else, especially when based on skin color and gender, wants everyone to believe that the reason he hates a certain former Presidential candidate is because she actually did her job of enforcing the law as a state Attorney General.