Joe Biden tells coal miners they can "learn how to program"

[JEDIYoda]

And that's the mistake that pretty much everyone here ignored.
Coal has been on the way out for a long time, and I'm sure most of the people in the industry know it, but he needed to be a bit less condescending. Don't piss off people you're trying to get to vote for you. That's politics 101 (a class Trump never took). Better to say that he would work on a way of transitioning those people into other industries.

eah right...the truth is the truth.....hahahaaaaa

 

[JEDIYoda]

That and telling them to learn to code is just hilariously stupid.

Coal miners could definetly learn and find work for something like plumbing long before you can teach them all the required skills for something like coding. Which is completely respectable, useful, and pays well.

Coding is on completely different spectrums of what they learned growing up, and I guarantee you that 98% of them would NEVER have the capabilities (Math skills, logic skills, typing skills, debugging, etc.) To convert to a career in coding.

hahahahahahaaaaaaaaa......jump on Biden time...rofl...sad pathetic Kool aid drinkers....

 

[Atreus21]

That and telling them to learn to code is just hilariously stupid.

Coal miners could definetly learn and find work for something like plumbing long before you can teach them all the required skills for something like coding. Which is completely respectable, useful, and pays well.

Coding is on completely different spectrums of what they learned growing up, and I guarantee you that 98% of them would NEVER have the capabilities (Math skills, logic skills, typing skills, debugging, etc.) To convert to a career in coding.

There are all sorts of blue collar jobs they could adapt to that could use their know-how.

 

[cytg111]

Condescending? Whatever happened to this?
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Thats like two programmers right there ... In never ever land.
I like his message. But its kind of a steep ... going from coal to code.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

hahahahahahaaaaaaaaa......jump on Biden time...rofl...sad pathetic Kool aid drinkers....

Can I please please please get whatever it is that you're smoking?

 

[cytg111]

And that's the mistake that pretty much everyone here ignored.
Coal has been on the way out for a long time, and I'm sure most of the people in the industry know it, but he needed to be a bit less condescending. Don't piss off people you're trying to get to vote for you. That's politics 101 (a class Trump never took). Better to say that he would work on a way of transitioning those people into other industries.

So between

A. The truth
B. Lies with more lies

You would go with option B, like Trump did, to harvest votes? Fuck all, just alt fact the whole clusterf. I've read it before, the condescending part, really? Sounds like the victim card to me.

 

[mect]

Oh come on ol' chap. You can at least admit that the concept of journalism has gone down the shitter right?

In this case it was BuzzFeed and HuffPo. Facts be damned, it's all about reporting on stupid shit with no real research or fact checking. Post accusations first - worry if it's true or not 2nd.

I have all the respect in the world for true journalists - and no real respectable journalist will ever be layed off.

You do realize the tightening job market for journalism has nothing to do with a decline in the quality of journalists, right? And actually, many respectable journalists have been laid off.

 

[theeedude]

Think about the actual logistics of creating coding jobs in West Virginia. Even if you could teach these idiots to code, those would be entry level jobs for former miners, but they would need managers, project leads, senior engineers, etc to move to West Virginia to actually organize and manage the work. You know, educated, liberal, likely immigrant, very affluent people with many options, to make a decision to move themselves and their families to a Trump supporting coal miner town with crappy schools, crappy health care, nothing to do, and serious opioid problems. To work and live with people who probably hate their guts.
It's not happening. Anyone with ambition to be a programmer (or anything else aside from a drug fiend or welfare queen) needs to leave those areas to have any chance.

 

[alcoholbob]

learn to code and then enjoy the short while you have a job while we expand H1-Bs to replace your coding job so you can start anew toward your third career!

 

[Starbuck1975]

Think about the actual logistics of creating coding jobs in West Virginia. Even if you could teach these idiots to code, those would be entry level jobs for former miners, but they would need managers, project leads, senior engineers, etc to move to West Virginia to actually organize and manage the work. You know, educated, liberal, likely immigrant, very affluent people with many options, to make a decision to move themselves and their families to a Trump supporting coal miner town with crappy schools, crappy health care, nothing to do, and serious opioid problems. To work and live with people who probably hate their guts.
It's not happening. Anyone with ambition to be a programmer (or anything else aside from a drug fiend or welfare queen) needs to leave those areas to have any chance.

If only we had a way for them to work virtually

 

[Starbuck1975]

hahahahahahaaaaaaaaa......jump on Biden time...rofl...sad pathetic Kool aid drinkers....

I already corrected you once, we only serve Tang

 

[HomerJS]

They actually increased when Trump took office. Look at the pretty little graph in this article. Obama is the reason coal jobs left.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/08/coal-mining-jobs-are-holding-steady-under-trumps-watch.html

Also Trump removed many of the idiotic coal regulations that obama installed which will take time to take full effect. It'd also be nice if Trump created more incentive for clean coal investment considering we have 27% of the world's coal with the next closest country at 17%. Coal is only "bad" b/c there isn't investment in tech to make dirty coal cleaner.

Either way Biden wins moron of the year for telling coal miners to learn to code. Guy needs to just retire to a nursing home where they can wipe his arse for him. He is on track to be a worse candidate than Hillary.

You don't even read your own bullshit. Article did not say coal jobs increased when Trump took office. Just like Trump say anything and hope it sticks. Same article says jobs will decrease over the next few years. YOu are almost as big of a tool as Trump. Stop the fluffing. Your knee pads are wearing out.

Tell you what, let's just condemn the miners and their kids to black lung disease and lie to the miners their jobs are coming back.

No reason the mining states can't transition to producing alternate energy.

 

[HomerJS]

My point was not necessarily specific to coal but to blue collar jobs in the Rust Belt. Trump can use Biden's comment to apply to any blue collar job with the correct framing lying. "Look what sleepy Joe is telling working class folk, that they should learn to code! What world is this guy living in? We will fight for your jobs and by the time I'm done, you'll have your choice of a [insert job type here like manufacturing, coal mining] job!"

FTFY, tool We all know you are into the Trump lies.

 

[cytg111]

If only we had a way for them to work virtually

Suuuuuuuuuuure.......

 

[IronWing]

A couple thoughts: Coal miners are really in two camps, the actual miners who are extremely high skilled (and paid) and should be able to apply their skills in most any manufacturing industry though maybe not at the same wages. The second group are the truck drivers that move coal from the mines in Hooten Holler to the rail heads. These are the folks that have almost no skills and will be screwed as the mines shutdown.
The second thought is that metallurgical coal mining will continue at least for awhile after thermal coal is no longer needed. Smelting iron w/o coal is possible and is done but it’s expensive.

 

[NostaSeronx]

Someday during April 2020: Joe Biden says "Pokemon GO to the Polls" to tell voters to vote!

 

[ivwshane]

Guys, guys! You are missing the point! Democrats need to be less condescending as our resident righties have so eloquently articulated, these coal miners are too stupid to be programmers, Democrats need to offer up less condescending options like plumbing. /eyeroll

It’s like you righties can’t even hear yourselves.

 

[sportage]

Coal is not the future and programming isn't necessarily the future either.
Today, computers program other computers.
And you can order their bigmac off a kiosk bypassing the live person, and drones might replace the UPS man delivering your Amazon orders.
I truly hate to say it but it is soooo obvious that Donald Trump will most definitely be re-elected.
Democrats best bet WAS HILLARY, and that didn't go so well.
NO WAY IN HELL are millions of people going to come together and elect some old white guy. Orange, yes but not old white Joe Biden.
Lets face it, the stars are not in alignment for a democrat to succeed in 2020.
People rather care about the economy and jobs and Donald Trump's passive attitude when it comes to those foreign wars. When it comes to war, Joe Biden would most definitely feel the historical obligation to engage within those wars. Donald Trump wants nothing to do with war.
Trump thumbs his nose at our military leadership and at foreign involvement.
The ONLY thing I like about Trump.

What it comes to Joe Biden it would take an old fashion biblical miracle to get Joe elected.
All this with being fully aware of how terrible awful Donald Trump is, this just shows us how terribly bad and screwed up things are within America.
We're F-Ked, Trump will be re-elected, the gun violence and mass killing will continue on, Trump will pack the US Supreme Court with even more degenerates, and there you have it.
When America emerges from a second Donald Trump term, no one will recognize America especially its own people.

 

[Jaskalas]

When America emerges from a second Donald Trump term, no one will recognize America especially its own people.

Some of our immigrants will recognize us, resembling their former homelands.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Guys, guys! You are missing the point! Democrats need to be less condescending as our resident righties have so eloquently articulated, these coal miners are too stupid to be programmers, Democrats need to offer up less condescending options like plumbing. /eyeroll

It’s like you righties can’t even hear yourselves.

Maybe Biden can help the coal miners land cushy consulting jobs with Ukrainian energy conglomerates. No industry knowledge, experience or training required. They’ll take anyone!

 

[ivwshane]

Maybe Biden can help the coal miners land cushy consulting jobs with Ukrainian energy conglomerates. No industry knowledge, experience or training required. They’ll take anyone!

Like I said, it’s like you guys can’t even hear yourselves.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Like I said, it’s like you guys can’t even hear yourselves.

He certainly seems very concerned by people not being qualified for their assigned positions, lol.....when a D is involved.

 

[Meghan54]

Maybe Biden can help the coal miners land cushy consulting jobs with Ukrainian energy conglomerates. No industry knowledge, experience or training required. They’ll take anyone!

So why are you still here? Wouldn't take you, eh?

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Learn coding? I can't even spell codeing.

And at my age, 'coding' can lead to sirens and flashing red lights and scrubs with paddles, probes, electrodes, charts and .... flat lining.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Suuuuuuuuuuure.......

Dev teams aren’t colocated and you mostly need top talent for product design and strategy. The work itself is becoming increasingly commoditized, which is why you have dev hubs growing in other parts of the country like Salt Lake City and the Carolinas.