Job growth SURGES in January, Beating Wall St Expectations

[blackangst1]

Thanks Obama.

/s

 

[Vic]

So let me guess, when we hit a recession it's all Trump's fault? lol nice try. The majority of Americans already attribute the economy to Trump.

Why would you guess that when it's the opposite of everything I've been saying this thread?

Anyway, I'm sure you and the rest of the hyperpartisans will be blaming the next President just like you blamed Obama for the recession that occurred well before he was elected. That kind of thing is just what big govt socialists with no sense of personal responsibility do.

 

[pcgeek11]

Yes, all economists agree that the current economic cycle began in 2009. And the data shows that.

BTW, doesn't it bother you at all that the loudest pro-Trump voice on ATPN is clearly a big govt socialist? Or is that a yawn too?

How can you credit Obama three years later when you guys say is how Trump is screwing up the economy.

Obama did such a good job Trump couldn't screw it up! LOL

And I don't know who you are talking about...

 

[blackangst1]

So let me guess, when we hit a recession it's all Trump's fault? lol nice try. The majority of Americans already attribute the economy to Trump.

Dont forget the doom and gloom predicted for when "if Trump wins"....essentially economic collapse.

lulz

What a trade war with Asia would look like if Trump wins.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/if-trump-launched-a-trade-war-on-asia-1459270919?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us Interesting article. If Trump wins and goes thru with his threat to impose a 45% across the board tariff on imports, he could throw the markets right into chaos.

forums.anandtech.com

What Happens to the Markets if Donald Trump Wins? (Published 2016)

A Trump victory probably would lead to an immediate market sell-off, the direction in the days and weeks that follow is not clear.

www.nytimes.com

Paul Krugman: Trump will bring global recession

Krugman's pessimistic view comes in the wake of a more than 800-point plunge in U.S. stock futures.

www.politico.com

 

[JEDIYoda]

So let me guess, when we hit a recession it's all Trump's fault? lol nice try. The majority of Americans already attribute the economy to Trump.

It is all Trumps fault if he is so stupid he can`t keep the growth that was given to him going......
Just like while Obama was in office it would have been his fault if there was a recession!
You know that Trump is not the man...after a 2 Trillion dollars added to our debt!

 

[Vic]

How can you credit Obama three years later when you guys say is how Trump is screwing up the economy.

Obama did such a good job Trump couldn't screw it up! LOL

And I don't know who you are talking about...

Just like with Speedy, your partisanship makes me LOL

And I'm talking about the Republicans' love of command economy. Not much of a free market or small govt when you keep insisting on giving govt control of everything just so you can credit (or blame) your partisan cult of personality.

 

[Commodus]

Dont forget the doom and gloom predicted for when "if Trump wins"....essentially economic collapse.

They were partly right in that Trump not nearly as skilled as he thinks he is, and that his volatility is a problem. He managed to start a trade war that didn't really amount to much, and he can single-handedly erase months of stock market gains with a handful of words. A hot-headed egomaniac isn't really the kind of person you want near economic policy.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Job Growth Surges In January, Beating Wall Street Expectations

Unseasonably warm weather in January helped boost job growth.

www.forbes.com

The economy is on fire, 42% higher jobs added than expected! This may be one of Trump's best weeks ever. Thank you, Mr. President!

Are they including jobs that where already there like they did in November? Oh? You are asking what jobs? The 50k automotive jobs that where on strike. They where included in the November numbers, even though they where not added. specially since they never deducted them when they went on strike.

What's funny, is he is 1.5 Million jobs behind Obama, and Population, as well as the workforce is growing... so how can adding less jobs, with more workers equal less unemployment (the math just doesn't add up) Oh wait.. we have on average 10K boomers retiring everyday. I guess those boomers retiring is all Trump. But lets ignore that and look at his unemployment gains.. in 3 years, unemployment has dropped from 4.7% (where Obama had it when he took office) to 3.5%. So, in 3 years, it has dropped a whole 1.2% under Trump. Now, Obama took over a country that was in a very bad recession, which took him a couple years to get things turned around. Unemployment in 2011 was 9.6%. Which means that in 5 years, Obama dropped it 5%. So, Trump is failing on jobs, and on unemployment. All Trump is doing is trying to keep things going that Obama started (the facts are out there if you want to go find them) , Trump is using mostly the same methods, or not doing anything at all and letting things continue as they have been when he took office. The same thing holds true about the economy (other than the tax cuts that has put us over a trillion dollars deficit) and the stock market. Actually, the feds over the last 4 months have stimulated the markets with over $300 Billion. This also happened in 2013, but much, much smaller amount, under Obama, but conditions, where a hell of a lot worse back then. All Trump is doing is riding what Obama started, and won't know how to fix it when things start to go south. The sad part, is the lemmings.... I mean Republican's will blame democrats, specially if Trump loses the election, even thought it will be all Trump's fault because the Obama wave will end, and he won't know how to fix it.

 

[sportage]

Whatever....
And, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

We all know Donald Trump is going to say that everything is "perfect". When he lies, he says he doesn't. When he makes up facts, he says he never would. And when he steals job growth statistics from Obama, they mysteriously become Trump statistics.
Oh come on people.... we surely know who Donald Trump is by now?

But forget about jobs and statistics.
instead, think about what will happen to all those senior citizens and disabled people when Donald Trump cuts to the bone those benefits to pay for his 2017 tax cut fiasco. That Donald Trump fiasco which is sending the national debt thru the roof.
When you take from the poor to give to the rich, you have nothing left but to take more from the poor to give to the rich.
Gee what would they call that?
Maybe...... SOCIALISM ??????

 

[dawp]

Are they including jobs that where already there like they did in November? Oh? You are asking what jobs? The 50k automotive jobs that where on strike. They where included in the November numbers, even though they where not added. specially since they never deducted them when they went on strike.

What's funny, is he is 1.5 Million jobs behind Obama, and Population, as well as the workforce is growing... so how can adding less jobs, with more workers equal less unemployment (the math just doesn't add up) Oh wait.. we have on average 10K boomers retiring everyday. I guess those boomers retiring is all Trump. But lets ignore that and look at his unemployment gains.. in 3 years, unemployment has dropped from 4.7% (where Obama had it when he took office) to 3.5%. So, in 3 years, it has dropped a whole 1.2% under Trump. Now, Obama took over a country that was in a very bad recession, which took him a couple years to get things turned around. Unemployment in 2011 was 9.6%. Which means that in 5 years, Obama dropped it 5%. So, Trump is failing on jobs, and on unemployment. All Trump is doing is trying to keep things going that Obama started (the facts are out there if you want to go find them) , Trump is using mostly the same methods, or not doing anything at all and letting things continue as they have been when he took office. The same thing holds true about the economy (other than the tax cuts that has put us over a trillion dollars deficit) and the stock market. Actually, the feds over the last 4 months have stimulated the markets with over $300 Billion. This also happened in 2013, but much, much smaller amount, under Obama, but conditions, where a hell of a lot worse back then. All Trump is doing is riding what Obama started, and won't know how to fix it when things start to go south. The sad part, is the lemmings.... I mean Republican's will blame democrats, specially if Trump loses the election, even thought it will be all Trump's fault because the Obama wave will end, and he won't know how to fix it.

you're arguing logically with someone who doesn't possess any logic, it's a no win situaction.

there is no arguing with someone who will not accept facts if they go contrary to their belief system.

 

[pete6032]

The key question here is do these numbers include the striking auto workers and do they include census hiring? The auto manufacturing jobs already existed, and census jobs are mostly temporary.

 

[Jaskalas]

Re: The economy.

The working poor belies anyone who parrots how well our economy is doing. Ultimately Wall Street doesn't matter, it's the people on our streets that matter. Both figuratively and literally. Decades worth of GAP will not be erased over night. Oh, and since that data is nearly a decade old, here's an update. Trump doesn't register there, where it matters. The working poor suffered before Trump, during Trump, and they will after Trump. He is no friend to the American people.

Oh look, Trump continued the recovery. He continued the status quo. When everything is coming up aces for Wall Street... perhaps they'll even throw us a bone and give wages a slight bump for a couple years. Whoo hoo, workers can eat a little extra dirt this year! They should be so happy, right OP? @SP33Demon

I wonder... Republicans tout wage increases so minuscule they do not alter the GAP.
Are you taking credit for the minimum wage increases Republicans worked feverishly trying to kill?

 

[fskimospy]

I wonder what Speedy thinks about the fact that Trump has never had a year where he added as many jobs as Obama did in the year before Trump took over.

Trump increased the deficit by around 70% and still couldn’t match his predecessor even once.

 

[Staples]

If you consider Uber and Grub Hub a job, then yes, the number of jobs have been on the rise. The problem is, they pay minimum wage at best. Many drivers make less than that.

I don't attribute much of this to the president though but if he wants to take credit for shittier jobs than we had 10 years ago, then be my guest.

 

[dank69]

How can you credit Obama three years later when you guys say is how Trump is screwing up the economy.

Obama did such a good job Trump couldn't screw it up! LOL

And I don't know who you are talking about...

This guy. It's like he thinks it's absurd to think that policies enacted in 2017-2019 can have effects that are not felt for up to 3, 5 or even 10 years.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I think SPeedy has left the building....

 

[JEDIYoda]

How can you credit Obama three years later when you guys say is how Trump is screwing up the economy.

Obama did such a good job Trump couldn't screw it up! LOL

And I don't know who you are talking about...

Nobody is crediting Obama! There is ahuge difference between taking credit and pointing out that this growth started during the Obama presidency and has carried over into the Trump presidency! YET Trump is taking all the credit! Duh....

 

[brycejones]

I think SPeedy has left the building....

He must be out looking for a new supply.

 

[Victorian Gray]

He must be out looking for a new supply.

Waiting for the next batch of talking points to be sent out.

 

[pcgeek11]

Nobody is crediting Obama! There is ahuge difference between taking credit and pointing out that this growth started during the Obama presidency and has carried over into the Trump presidency! YET Trump is taking all the credit! Duh....

I didn't say anything about when it started.

Trump has helped make it continue for the last three years. Even in spite of all that were declaring how much Trump was going to trash the economy.

 

[TheVrolok]

I didn't say anything about when it started.

Trump has helped make it continue for the last three years. Even in spite of all that were declaring how much Trump was going to trash the economy.

The fact that he's ballooned the debt with policies that were intended to stimulate growth and yet he's just kept pace is not a good thing. It's a really bad thing.

 

[Jhhnn]

Well when you invoke the nuclear option, we all knew this day would come. Cocaine Mitch warned the Dems in 2013 when Harry Reid decimated the last shred of bipartisanship in the filibuster of judicial nominees. 191 judges later, it's McConnell who made good on his warning. Make no mistake, the 200+ judges that Trump confirms will last DECADES and past Trump's last breath. If you think power is concentrated now, just wait until these judges start blocking EVERYTHING the next Democrat prez does and forces everything to SCOTUS the way the Dems are doing with Trump out of pettiness. What goes around comes around. I wish it didn't have to be this way but Dems sent us down this path.

Wait... Trump's judicial appointees aren't neutral arbiters of the law but rather partisan toadies?

 

[JEDIYoda]

I didn't say anything about when it started.

Trump has helped make it continue for the last three years. Even in spite of all that were declaring how much Trump was going to trash the economy.

We can agree that is has krept on going under Trump!
yet, my bad!! We can`t forget about the 2 Trillion dollars added to the total deficit and his campaign promise to totally do away with the deficit....

 

[Meghan54]

I didn't say anything about when it started.

Trump has helped make it continue for the last three years. Even in spite of all that were declaring how much Trump was going to trash the economy.

Yep, kept it going.....by increasing the deficit by $2T and a 2.1 GDP increase last year.

Where's that darned 4% GDP growth Trump promised? Haven't seen it yet. Guess 2% is close enough to 4%, right?

 

[Jaskalas]

Where's that darned 4% GDP growth Trump promised?

I hope our nominee is a fighter who calls Trump out on those lies.