Jimmy Carter weighs in on the opposition to Obama

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Allright, I'm titling this in the most non-inflammatory way I can.

"I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American," Carter told "NBC Nightly News." "I live in the South, and I've seen the South come a long way, and I've seen the rest of the country that shares the South's attitude toward minority groups at that time, particularly African-Americans."

"That racism inclination still exists, and I think it's bubbled up to the surface because of belief among many white people -- not just in the South but around the country -- that African-Americans are not qualified to lead this great country. It's an abominable circumstance, and it grieves me and concerns me very deeply," Carter said.

Article here:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...arter.obama/index.html

Vid & commentary here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30...ith_olbermann#32868012

So there it is. I'm glad this is finally getting some mainstream traction. The issue needs to be addressed.

Late edit: Added subtitle to clarify rampant mischaracterization.

 

[SAWYER]

When you back is against the wall pull the old faithful race card! While I agree there are some people out there who are racially motivated, a lot of people are not racially motivate din their opposition

 

[spidey07]

This pretty much sums it up. It's his policies, has nothing whatsoever to do with race. But keep calling people who disagree with Obama racists, Carter. Just makes us stronger, more resistant and even more vocal.

" Michael Steele, who is the first African-American to chair the Republican National Committee, denied Wednesday that race is fueling protests.

"President Carter is flat-out wrong," Steele said in a statement. "This isn't about race. It is about policy.""

 

[Phokus]

Carter is just stating the obvious. If conservatives ever start tea parties against republican presidents for reckless spending, i'll be impressed.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Carter is just stating the obvious. If conservatives ever start tea parties against republican presidents for reckless spending, i'll be impressed.

Bullshit. I'm not a republican and I sure as hell didn't agree with Bush, but that's effin stupid on Carters part.

 

[compuwiz1]

nm..my link didn't work

 

[Pens1566]

It's not about policy. Hillary was proposing much more "socialism" with the plan in '93 and got nowhere near the hate this is getting.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Jimmy hit the nail on the head! Much of the hatred displayed towards Obama is "vieled racism" but racism none the less.

I find it comical when racist's try and disguise thier racism, it's about as obvious as when a drunk thats had a few two many tries to act sober:laugh:

Just yesterday on the WSJ forums someone posted a picture of a sign reading "Obama for president of Kenya" and a whole line of rightwingers lined up to defend the picture and offer explanations as to why it wasn't racist

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Phokus
Carter is just stating the obvious. If conservatives ever start tea parties against republican presidents for reckless spending, i'll be impressed.

Bullshit. I'm not a republican and I sure as hell didn't agree with Bush, but that's effin stupid on Carters part.

Which is why you guys tea partied on Bush when he was recklessly spending

Oh wait.

The only ones who are consistent about this are ron paul bots. I'll give credit where credit's due.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Carter is just stating the obvious. If conservatives ever start tea parties against republican presidents for reckless spending, i'll be impressed.

Except that you have no proof, you have a conjecture at best. These are the same people who called up their congressmen pleading with them to oppose the Bush bailouts :roll: And we all know how black Bush is.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Phokus
Carter is just stating the obvious. If conservatives ever start tea parties against republican presidents for reckless spending, i'll be impressed.

Except that you have no proof, you have a conjecture at best. These are the same people who called up their congressmen pleading with them to oppose the Bush bailouts :roll: And we all know how black Bush is.

Yeah, i have no proof that you guys went batshit crazy and started tea parties and town hall scream fests during bush's term.

Right.

 

[Phokus]

Well SOME tea partiers are honest about their racism:

http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/...13146-1252961789-0.jpg

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Phokus
Carter is just stating the obvious. If conservatives ever start tea parties against republican presidents for reckless spending, i'll be impressed.

Bullshit. I'm not a republican and I sure as hell didn't agree with Bush, but that's effin stupid on Carters part.

Which is why you guys tea partied on Bush when he was recklessly spending

Oh wait.

The only ones who are consistent about this are ron paul bots. I'll give credit where credit's due.

So you want to pull your beak out of your ass? We have a search function and why don't you find where I

A: Praise the last administration

and

B: Where I participated in any of the tea parties or even mentioned them? Fact is that anyone can get together, them or you.

Want to try to back the "you" thing again?

 

[Modelworks]

Some of it is racism, but it isn't the reason why he has opposition. Any president touching health care has had opposition regardless of race, party, religion. The czar issue is another sore point not because he is doing anything other presidents haven't , but because he is doing it more than any other president . He was also elected in a time when the economy is in trouble and money has always been a subject to argue over. He has a war to keep track of, another problem for presidents.

So instead of racism being his problem, his problem is he has several issues which would cause any president problems. Until Obama says himself that he is having a hard time because he is black, I'll assume the he knows it isn't racial, it is just part of the job.

Personally I think the problem with Obama isn't his race. It is his trying to please everyone.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Some of it is racism, but it isn't the reason why he has opposition. Any president touching health care has had opposition regardless of race, party, religion. The czar issue is another sore point not because he is doing anything other presidents haven't , but because he is doing it more than any other president . He was also elected in a time when the economy is in trouble and money has always been a subject to argue over. He has a war to keep track of, another problem for presidents.

So instead of racism being his problem, his problem is he has several issues which would cause any president problems. Until Obama says himself that he is having a hard time because he is black, I'll assume the he knows it isn't racial, it is just part of the job.

Good points, but how many are his fault? Thats what people are getting at here. The level of outrage isn't justifiable based on the situation.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Phokus
Carter is just stating the obvious. If conservatives ever start tea parties against republican presidents for reckless spending, i'll be impressed.

Bullshit. I'm not a republican and I sure as hell didn't agree with Bush, but that's effin stupid on Carters part.

Which is why you guys tea partied on Bush when he was recklessly spending

Oh wait.

The only ones who are consistent about this are ron paul bots. I'll give credit where credit's due.

So you want to pull your beak out of your ass? We have a search function and why don't you find where I

A: Praise the last administration

and

B: Where I participated in any of the tea parties or even mentioned them? Fact is that anyone can get together, them or you.

Want to try to back the "you" thing again?

Well, first, i said 'you guys', not YOU. And when i say, 'you guys', i'm not talking specifically about YOU. I'm talking about your movement. Do you admit that the 'tea party' opposition and town hall lunacy is a recent phenomenon? Again, the only consistent people are Ron Paul bots.

 

[Dari]

It is so much easier to worry about the deficit when it's a Democratic black man running the show. It's sad to see some people support wasting money on foreign wars rather than spending it here at home. Truly sad and pathetic.

If I was a real conservative, I'd try to steer clear of these tea-baggers.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Sawyer
When you back is against the wall pull the old faithful race card! While I agree there are some people out there who are racially motivated, a lot of people are not racially motivate din their opposition

... says the guy with the blackguy authorsicon

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Some of it is racism, but it isn't the reason why he has opposition. Any president touching health care has had opposition regardless of race, party, religion. The czar issue is another sore point not because he is doing anything other presidents haven't , but because he is doing it more than any other president . He was also elected in a time when the economy is in trouble and money has always been a subject to argue over. He has a war to keep track of, another problem for presidents.

So instead of racism being his problem, his problem is he has several issues which would cause any president problems. Until Obama says himself that he is having a hard time because he is black, I'll assume the he knows it isn't racial, it is just part of the job.

Good points, but how many are his fault? Thats what people are getting at here. The level of outrage isn't justifiable based on the situation.

I think the problem is he made a lot of promises during campaigning and I think he went too far with a lot of them . Then when he got into office things haven't happened as quick as they thought they would . He made it seem during his campaign like he was going to change Washington and people have only seen more of the same so far. So people are a bit disappointed. It is like being told you are going to get this great birthday party and instead of a pony your dad decides to give piggyback rides .

 

[alphatarget1]

http://www.npr.org/templates/s....php?storyId=112843106

"I can't help a feeling that if the president were white, Wilson would not have shouted out as if he were at a hockey game. After all, no one has pulled something like that while a president was speaking in recent memory.

But it's what I imagine. I can't know. Just like I can't know whether Glenn Beck would be so comfortable calling a white president a racist. I doubt it. But that's not knowing.

In cases like this, it will almost always be tricky to call where anger leaves off and bigotry begins. The question is whether we even need to dwell on it."

 

[Pens1566]

Come on. No one can realistically expect everything to change in less than 8 months.

 

[alchemize]

Once again, Obama doesn't agree with the moonbats. Must make Phokus feel stupid every time he calls the president a liar.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Phokus
Carter is just stating the obvious. If conservatives ever start tea parties against republican presidents for reckless spending, i'll be impressed.

Bullshit. I'm not a republican and I sure as hell didn't agree with Bush, but that's effin stupid on Carters part.

Which is why you guys tea partied on Bush when he was recklessly spending

Oh wait.

The only ones who are consistent about this are ron paul bots. I'll give credit where credit's due.

So you want to pull your beak out of your ass? We have a search function and why don't you find where I

A: Praise the last administration

and

B: Where I participated in any of the tea parties or even mentioned them? Fact is that anyone can get together, them or you.

Want to try to back the "you" thing again?

Well, first, i said 'you guys', not YOU. And when i say, 'you guys', i'm not talking specifically about YOU. I'm talking about your movement. Do you admit that the 'tea party' opposition and town hall lunacy is a recent phenomenon? Again, the only consistent people are Ron Paul bots.

Actually if you look at how town meetings were in New England a long time ago you would find a startling resemblance where people got pissed off and let the politicians have it. Well, not quite. Sometimes they flung dung at them. It's just been so long since we were expected to kiss the buttocks of those who work for us, that it's been forgotten.

Truth be told I'm glad Obama is getting crap because he needs to hear it, even if some of it is stupid.

Hell, I'd like to see these things become mandatory and I wish it had started with GWB.

 

[OCGuy]

Thats racist!

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: alchemize
Once again, Obama doesn't agree with the moonbats. Must make Phokus feel stupid every time he calls the president a liar.

Oh really, you mean Obama wants to quell an explosive situation?

The only one stupid is you, you actually take that statement at face value and don't see the reason behind it

This tea partier says hi:

http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/...13146-1252961789-0.jpg