Jews inside Iran

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: nick1985
Jews in Nazi Germany didnt openly complain either...does that mean it was a nice place to be stuck living?

Are you comparing modern day Iran to Nazi Germany? Get out of this thread. That's stupid.
With zero evidence to suggest that other than your own Islamaphobia.

Germany 1930s:
-Law passed Jews not allowed to have any government jobs Iran has this law?
-Law passed Jews were limited from going to German schools and universities Iran has this law?
-Jews were limited in the field of medicine and law Iran has this law?
-Laws came out that gave less money to the Jews for insurance benefits Iran has this law?

I could go on and on and this is the 1930s.
Don't sit here and tell me the Jews didn't complain. Show me where they didn't.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Originally posted by: Aimster

"Jews here have great Iranian roots ? they love Iran," says chairman Moresadegh. "Personally, I would stay in Iran no matter what. I speak in English, I pray in Hebrew, but my thinking is Persian."

Freud was once asked to sign a document by the Gestapo stating he was treated respectfully. At the end he wrote: ""I can heartily recommend the Gestapo to anyone.""

In the article below we reported that last year President Ahmadinejad said (quoting the late Ayatollah Khomeini) that Israel should be "wiped off the map". A more literal translation of the statement he made in 2005, at The World without Zionism conference in Tehran, is "the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".?

let me translate:

"vanish from the page of time" = as time further progresses the regime will no longer exist.

"must" = The key word is must which is an auxiliary noun. That means action must be taken for this to happen.

What kind of action can someone take to cause a regime of an independent nation to vanish? Take a guess.

When putting it all together what was said was simply a euphemism for "Israel must be destroyed". The initial international response to the statement was correct.

Iran?s Ex President says Holocaust is NOT a myth
BBC
?President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad brought international criticism when he called the Holocaust a "myth" last year.
Mr Khatami said the Holocaust was a "massacre of innocent people, among them many Jews", Iran media reported.
?He added: "We should speak out if even a single Jew is killed. Don't forget that one of the crimes of Hitler, Nazism and German National Socialism was the massacre of innocent people, among them many Jews."

All that means is that he likes contradicting himself. You buy into propaganda too much. Does dressing up British captives in suits make the Iranian regime nice guys?

mohammad khatami contradicted himself? how?

you're talking out of your ass, dude...

 

[KurskKnyaz]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

*Jews who live inside Iran are not complaining

Because they are happy or can't complain?

*Jews who have left Iran and lived inside Iran during the current regime are not complaining
*Jews who left Iran during the current regime who are in Israel are returning back to Iran

pointless anecdotal evidence.

*Jews are free to leave Iran whenever they want*

my mother was legally allowed to leave the Soviet Union whenever she wanted. She just needed parental permission from my ultra-nationalist grandfather. Once she would get that there were many other loopholes set into place to keep a grown 30-year-old from leaving.

Jews inside are not complaining
Jews outside Iran are not complaining
Palehorse is complaining

you = tool

No one in communist Russia complained either. You're the tool.

you can't compare communist russia to iran... it's completely different[/quote]

I'll post it again if you didn't read it the first time:

Freud was once asked to sign a document by the Gestapo stating he was treated respectfully. At the end he wrote: ""I can heartily recommend the Gestapo to anyone.""

What that means is that people can be pressed to say certain things they don't really mean. What Freud wrote was sarcasm to exemplify this.

Communist Russia was not different in terms of speech and press freedom. Show me an Iranian newspaper that asks why is Ahmadenejad showing off Iran's gas centrifuges to the press if Iran has no civilian nuclear reactors, no documented plans to build any civilian nuclear reactors, and why is the top military brass standing behind him while the press cameras are rolling to film this new technological development.

You and Aimster can play stupid all you want but thats just the way you two will come off with the nonsense you post.

 

[Aimster]

let's see

I have posted two articles from the Jerusalem Post which is a pro-Israel pro-Jewish news organization
Article 1: Jews landing from Iran inside Israel discredit reports about their life inside Iran.
Article 2: Jews who lived in Iran during the current regime and who now live inside Israel want to go back to Iran to live.

I guess the JPost is posting propaganda because they do not want to lose their 70 million subscribers inside Iran. Makes perfect sense to me.

 

[KurskKnyaz]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?

Are you? You sound like Ahmadenijad's Jewish PR guy.

Cut the bullshit. I do believe that the Iranian secular Muslims don't discriminate against Jews. As for the Islamic government, it uses whatever Jews are left in Iran for propaganda. This is what you have a hard time understanding. You don't hear about the Islamic regime discriminating against Jews because it is overshadowed by reports of them discriminating against everyone in the country who does not want to abide by religious law. Your arguments hold no water. They are the equivalent of claiming that southern blacks in the US were always treated fairly because a law existed that said they are to be equal (and separate).

I think this thread has reached its end. People are not going to waste time arguing with you when all you try to do is use faulty logic in an attempt to win arguments. Come pack when you want to have a more serious discussion.

I am an Iranian Jew

& eits is an Iranian who is not Muslim so I suppose he is a Christian

All the hillbillies have flocked to this thread. Brilliant

My sources don't provide information they provide quotes from Jews outside Iran LOL

go Cry

You have a hard time understanding that those quotes are totally insignificant and don't further your point in any way. Political leaders have long hands and individuals have biases. So in the end you provided no information and meaningless quotes. Nice work.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?

Are you? You sound like Ahmadenijad's Jewish PR guy.

Cut the bullshit. I do believe that the Iranian secular Muslims don't discriminate against Jews. As for the Islamic government, it uses whatever Jews are left in Iran for propaganda. This is what you have a hard time understanding. You don't hear about the Islamic regime discriminating against Jews because it is overshadowed by reports of them discriminating against everyone in the country who does not want to abide by religious law. Your arguments hold no water. They are the equivalent of claiming that southern blacks in the US were always treated fairly because a law existed that said they are to be equal (and separate).

I think this thread has reached its end. People are not going to waste time arguing with you when all you try to do is use faulty logic in an attempt to win arguments. Come pack when you want to have a more serious discussion.

I am an Iranian Jew

& eits is an Iranian who is not Muslim so I suppose he is a Christian

All the hillbillies have flocked to this thread. Brilliant

My sources don't provide information they provide quotes from Jews outside Iran LOL

go Cry

You have a hard time understanding that those quotes are totally insignificant and don't further your point in any way. Political leaders have long hands and individuals have biases. So in the end you provided no information and meaningless quotes. Nice work.

yes the Jews outside Iran have a gun to their head by Iranian secret agents.

 

[KurskKnyaz]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: nick1985
Jews in Nazi Germany didnt openly complain either...does that mean it was a nice place to be stuck living?

Are you comparing modern day Iran to Nazi Germany? Get out of this thread. That's stupid.

He's trying to make the same simple point I am: Not complaining is not to be interpreted as acceptance

With zero evidence to suggest that other than your own Islamaphobia.

your reasoning is ridiculous to the extent that it may be considered a mental disorder. Where did "islamophobia" come from? LOL

In Ukraine my friends mother could not go to medical school because she was a Jew. There was no law on the books that enacted this policy. A law does not have to exists for a policy to be enacted.

 

[palehorse]

EXHIBIT A:
1980, AFTER the fall of the shah, and AFTER the start of the Iran-Iraq War, there were approximately 75-80,000 Jews in Iran.
2008, AFTER 28 years of oppression, there are only 30,000 Jews remaining in Iran, with more leaving each and every year.

EXHIBIT B:
The Jews' single token in the Iranian parliament is required by law to support all Iranian foreign policy and anti-Zionist positions.

EXHIBIT C:
Jews who apply for emigration or travel visas are immediately placed under surveillance.

EXHIBIT D:
The Jewish Community's only newspaper was recently shut down by the Iranian government

EXHIBIT E:
Jews are not permitted to hold any senior positions in government or military service, except for their token seat in parliament -- NONE.

EXHIBIT F:
By law, Jewish schools must be controlled and run by Shia Muslim administrators.

EXHIBIT G:
Iranian Jews are not permitted to serve in either the Judiciary or Security services of Iran.

EXHIBIT H:
While the Government recognizes Judaism as a religious minority, Jews alleged frequent official discrimination. During the reporting period, there was a rise in officially sanctioned, anti-Semitic propaganda, involving official statements, media outlets, publications, and books. The Government's anti-Israel policies and anti-Semitic rhetoric, along with a perception among radical Muslims that all Jewish citizens of the country support Zionism and the state of Israel, created a hostile atmosphere for Jews. The rhetorical attacks also further blurred the line between Zionism, Judaism, and Israel and contributed to increased concerns about the future security of the Jewish community.

EXHIBITS I-Z... and worth repeating 100000 times:
1980, AFTER the fall of the shah, and AFTER the start of the Iran-Iraq War, there were approximately 75-80,000 Jews in Iran.
2008, AFTER 28 years of oppression, there are only 30,000 Jews remaining in Iran, with more leaving each and every year.

Aimster:

Jews inside Iran are happy. Jews who left Iran say Iran was not bad.

Hmmm... I wonder why they say that... why'd they choose to leave again?

/thread

 

[KurskKnyaz]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Originally posted by: Aimster

"Jews here have great Iranian roots ? they love Iran," says chairman Moresadegh. "Personally, I would stay in Iran no matter what. I speak in English, I pray in Hebrew, but my thinking is Persian."

Freud was once asked to sign a document by the Gestapo stating he was treated respectfully. At the end he wrote: ""I can heartily recommend the Gestapo to anyone.""

In the article below we reported that last year President Ahmadinejad said (quoting the late Ayatollah Khomeini) that Israel should be "wiped off the map". A more literal translation of the statement he made in 2005, at The World without Zionism conference in Tehran, is "the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".?

let me translate:

"vanish from the page of time" = as time further progresses the regime will no longer exist.

"must" = The key word is must which is an auxiliary noun. That means action must be taken for this to happen.

What kind of action can someone take to cause a regime of an independent nation to vanish? Take a guess.

When putting it all together what was said was simply a euphemism for "Israel must be destroyed". The initial international response to the statement was correct.

Iran?s Ex President says Holocaust is NOT a myth
BBC
?President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad brought international criticism when he called the Holocaust a "myth" last year.
Mr Khatami said the Holocaust was a "massacre of innocent people, among them many Jews", Iran media reported.
?He added: "We should speak out if even a single Jew is killed. Don't forget that one of the crimes of Hitler, Nazism and German National Socialism was the massacre of innocent people, among them many Jews."

All that means is that he likes contradicting himself. You buy into propaganda too much. Does dressing up British captives in suits make the Iranian regime nice guys?

mohammad khatami contradicted himself? how?

you're talking out of your ass, dude...

I misread what you said. I though this was a new quote from Ahmadenejad. I'm sure Jews in Iran are thrilled that Ahmadenijad invited all of the worlds most prominent nazi-sympathizers to deny the genocide of their people. They must be thrilled to live in Iran under a government that doesn't show any bias to any specific ethnic groups.

 

[KurskKnyaz]

Originally posted by: Aimster
let's see

I have posted two articles from the Jerusalem Post which is a pro-Israel pro-Jewish news organization
Article 1: Jews landing from Iran inside Israel discredit reports about their life inside Iran.
Article 2: Jews who lived in Iran during the current regime and who now live inside Israel want to go back to Iran to live.

I guess the JPost is posting propaganda because they do not want to lose their 70 million subscribers inside Iran. Makes perfect sense to me.

...and still those articles are totally insignificant and prove nothing except what a few individuals said.

 

[Aimster]

There is no law banning them from holding government jobs.
Iranian Jews can't serve in the Iranian military. This is a tragedy. I am sure they are all dying to serve under the military of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Muslims in Iran have to illegally pay someone $10,000 just to get out of the mandatory 2-year service while the Jews don't have to do a thing.

Prove that the Iranian Parliament speaker isrequired by law to support all Iranian foreign policy
State Department's Website is not a source, lol. Even if it was correct, what the f does this have to do with the daily life of an Iranian Jew inside Iran. "oH god another day inside Iran where my parliamentary speaker is required by law to not support Israel. I'm going to go cry cause now I can't debate this on ATOT-Iran.com with my friends"

Jews only newspaper was shutdown in Iran? What about the tens of thousands of Iranian newspapers shutdown every single year? There is not a single newspaper that is anti-government inside Iran.
Jews don't have their own newspaper and neither do the tens of millions of Iranians who hate the govt. This clearly shows that the Iranian govt. is out to massacre the Jews and only the Jews.

Jews are placed under surveillance inside Iran? Really? You should tell that to the Jews who say they travel to and from Israel "with no problems at all". Of course I guess your little State Department website knows more about the Jews inside Iran than they do. Plus it's not like the Iranian govt. doesn't watch over their general Muslim population. They are free to do whatever they want, right?

There is no Iranian Law that states Jewish private schools have to be run by Muslim principals

The Jews inside Iran clearly said there is hardly any discrimination yet you continue to post your stupid State Department website quotes

Iranian Jews left Iran because they had money and they left in 1979-1981. Of course you like to act like an idiot and don't seem to realize this.


All you have is the State Department's Website. Eve n so everything you listed above Happens with Muslims . Go cry.

 

[KurskKnyaz]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?

Are you? You sound like Ahmadenijad's Jewish PR guy.

Cut the bullshit. I do believe that the Iranian secular Muslims don't discriminate against Jews. As for the Islamic government, it uses whatever Jews are left in Iran for propaganda. This is what you have a hard time understanding. You don't hear about the Islamic regime discriminating against Jews because it is overshadowed by reports of them discriminating against everyone in the country who does not want to abide by religious law. Your arguments hold no water. They are the equivalent of claiming that southern blacks in the US were always treated fairly because a law existed that said they are to be equal (and separate).

I think this thread has reached its end. People are not going to waste time arguing with you when all you try to do is use faulty logic in an attempt to win arguments. Come pack when you want to have a more serious discussion.

I am an Iranian Jew

& eits is an Iranian who is not Muslim so I suppose he is a Christian

All the hillbillies have flocked to this thread. Brilliant

My sources don't provide information they provide quotes from Jews outside Iran LOL

go Cry

You have a hard time understanding that those quotes are totally insignificant and don't further your point in any way. Political leaders have long hands and individuals have biases. So in the end you provided no information and meaningless quotes. Nice work.

yes the Jews outside Iran have a gun to their head by Iranian secret agents.

no, they may have one once they return. Or maybe their family back home in Iran has. Doesn't have to be guns. Just other forms of pressure.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Originally posted by: Aimster
let's see

I have posted two articles from the Jerusalem Post which is a pro-Israel pro-Jewish news organization
Article 1: Jews landing from Iran inside Israel discredit reports about their life inside Iran.
Article 2: Jews who lived in Iran during the current regime and who now live inside Israel want to go back to Iran to live.

I guess the JPost is posting propaganda because they do not want to lose their 70 million subscribers inside Iran. Makes perfect sense to me.

...and still those articles are totally insignificant and prove nothing except what a few individuals said.

Which is better than what "KursksKnyaz" said.
LoL

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?

Are you? You sound like Ahmadenijad's Jewish PR guy.

Cut the bullshit. I do believe that the Iranian secular Muslims don't discriminate against Jews. As for the Islamic government, it uses whatever Jews are left in Iran for propaganda. This is what you have a hard time understanding. You don't hear about the Islamic regime discriminating against Jews because it is overshadowed by reports of them discriminating against everyone in the country who does not want to abide by religious law. Your arguments hold no water. They are the equivalent of claiming that southern blacks in the US were always treated fairly because a law existed that said they are to be equal (and separate).

I think this thread has reached its end. People are not going to waste time arguing with you when all you try to do is use faulty logic in an attempt to win arguments. Come pack when you want to have a more serious discussion.

I am an Iranian Jew

& eits is an Iranian who is not Muslim so I suppose he is a Christian

All the hillbillies have flocked to this thread. Brilliant

My sources don't provide information they provide quotes from Jews outside Iran LOL

go Cry

You have a hard time understanding that those quotes are totally insignificant and don't further your point in any way. Political leaders have long hands and individuals have biases. So in the end you provided no information and meaningless quotes. Nice work.

yes the Jews outside Iran have a gun to their head by Iranian secret agents.

no, they may have one once they return. Or maybe their family back home in Iran has. Doesn't have to be guns. Just other forms of pressure.

They can leave Iran if they want.
They will get $10,000 for doing so too.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Aimster
There is no law banning them from holding government jobs.
Iranian Jews can't serve in the Iranian military. This is a tragedy. I am sure they are all dying to serve under the military of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Muslims in Iran have to illegally pay someone $10,000 just to get out of the mandatory 2-year service while the Jews don't have to do a thing.

Prove that the Iranian Parliament speaker isrequired by law to support all Iranian foreign policy
State Department's Website is not a source, lol. Even if it was correct, what the f does this have to do with the daily life of an Iranian Jew inside Iran. "oH god another day inside Iran where my parliamentary speaker is required by law to not support Israel. I'm going to go cry cause now I can't debate this on ATOT-Iran.com with my friends"

Jews only newspaper was shutdown in Iran? What about the tens of thousands of Iranian newspapers shutdown every single year? There is not a single newspaper that is anti-government inside Iran.
Jews don't have their own newspaper and neither do the tens of millions of Iranians who hate the govt. This clearly shows that the Iranian govt. is out to massacre the Jews and only the Jews.

Jews are placed under surveillance inside Iran? Really? You should tell that to the Jews who say they travel to and from Israel "with no problems at all". Of course I guess your little State Department website knows more about the Jews inside Iran than they do. Plus it's not like the Iranian govt. doesn't watch over their general Muslim population. They are free to do whatever they want, right?

There is no Iranian Law that states Jewish private schools have to be run by Muslim principals

The Jews inside Iran clearly said there is hardly any discrimination yet you continue to post your stupid State Department website quotes

Iranian Jews left Iran because they had money and they left in 1979-1981. Of course you like to act like an idiot and don't seem to realize this.

All you have is the State Department's Website. Eve n so everything you listed above Happens with Muslims . Go cry.

Have you posted a single link!?

wow man... I had expected much more from you and your infamous college degree. I highly suggest you return and attend at least one class in logic, reason, or debate. Most reputable schools will offer those...

That said, your entire rebuttal was once again adolescent and anecdotal in nature. The gist of your entire argument has been "The Jews in Iran are only slightly more oppressed than every other Iranian. And, since most of the oppressive laws against them don't effect too many of them, who cares dude?!"

I've made my points... you've been completely owned... so I'll leave you now with your persistent delusions.

g'day.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: Aimster
There is no law banning them from holding government jobs.
Iranian Jews can't serve in the Iranian military. This is a tragedy. I am sure they are all dying to serve under the military of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Muslims in Iran have to illegally pay someone $10,000 just to get out of the mandatory 2-year service while the Jews don't have to do a thing.

Prove that the Iranian Parliament speaker isrequired by law to support all Iranian foreign policy
State Department's Website is not a source, lol. Even if it was correct, what the f does this have to do with the daily life of an Iranian Jew inside Iran. "oH god another day inside Iran where my parliamentary speaker is required by law to not support Israel. I'm going to go cry cause now I can't debate this on ATOT-Iran.com with my friends"

Jews only newspaper was shutdown in Iran? What about the tens of thousands of Iranian newspapers shutdown every single year? There is not a single newspaper that is anti-government inside Iran.
Jews don't have their own newspaper and neither do the tens of millions of Iranians who hate the govt. This clearly shows that the Iranian govt. is out to massacre the Jews and only the Jews.

Jews are placed under surveillance inside Iran? Really? You should tell that to the Jews who say they travel to and from Israel "with no problems at all". Of course I guess your little State Department website knows more about the Jews inside Iran than they do. Plus it's not like the Iranian govt. doesn't watch over their general Muslim population. They are free to do whatever they want, right?

There is no Iranian Law that states Jewish private schools have to be run by Muslim principals

The Jews inside Iran clearly said there is hardly any discrimination yet you continue to post your stupid State Department website quotes

Iranian Jews left Iran because they had money and they left in 1979-1981. Of course you like to act like an idiot and don't seem to realize this.

All you have is the State Department's Website. Eve n so everything you listed above Happens with Muslims . Go cry.

Have you posted a single link!?

wow man... I had expected much more from you and your infamous college degree. I highly suggest you return and attend at least one class in logic, reason, or debate. Most reputable schools will offer those...

That said, your entire rebuttal was once again adolescent and anecdotal in nature. The gist of your entire argument has been "The Jews in Iran are only slightly more oppressed than every other Iranian. And, since most of the oppressive laws against them don't effect too many of them, who cares dude?!"

I've made my points... you've been completely owned... so I'll leave you now with your persistent delusions.

g'day.

I posted 6 links in my original post

you posted a state department link that describes the life of Iranians inside Iran. LoL. My links are from people who have lived there. Your link is by one guy who is paid some money to create a website. Unless you are telling me the State Department is better at journalism than Jpost, BBC and CBSNews. LOL

Oppressed Laws? LoL. Jews don't want to serve in the Iranian military and not being able to talk about Israel in the open is not oppression (LoL).

Are you jealous of my college degree? LoL.
This is from a guy who has been to Iraq/Afghanistan and Syria on a secret ops mission (LOLL). Hell you've even been to 10 other nations you listed which I don't care to remember. A guy who has 3 college degrees one of them being a masters. Yeah.
Either you are an old fart or you are full of b.s. You traveled the world, served in the military, post on ATOT at all hours of the day, and got 3 college degrees? I call B.S.

oh but wait University of Phoenix, college degree in 2 years by doing absolutely nothing. My bad Mr. college graduate.

 

[KurskKnyaz]

Which is better than what "KursksKnyaz" said.

better how? I said that what certain individuals say is insignificant.

Originally posted by: Aimster
There is no law banning them from holding government jobs.
Iranian Jews can't serve in the Iranian military. This is a tragedy. I am sure they are all dying to serve under the military of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Muslims in Iran have to illegally pay someone $10,000 just to get out of the mandatory 2-year service while the Jews don't have to do a thing.

Muslim = can serve
Jew = can't serve

That is called discrimination.

Why do you think they can't serve? because they aren't trusted maybe? Or because the Iranian government cherishes them and doesn't want them to die in the even of a war but want togive them money to leave. Even Muslims in Israel are allowed to server in the IDF.

Prove that the Iranian Parliament speaker isrequired by law to support all Iranian foreign policy
State Department's Website is not a source, lol. Even if it was correct, what the f does this have to do with the daily life of an Iranian Jew inside Iran. "oH god another day inside Iran where my parliamentary speaker is required by law to not support Israel. I'm going to go cry cause now I can't debate this on ATOT-Iran.com with my friends"

Again, discrimination.

Jews only newspaper was shutdown in Iran? What about the tens of thousands of Iranian newspapers shutdown every single year? There is not a single newspaper that is anti-government inside Iran.
Jews don't have their own newspaper and neither do the tens of millions of Iranians who hate the govt. This clearly shows that the Iranian govt. is out to massacre the Jews and only the Jews.

Wait, I thought Jews In Iran love it there. Why would they write bad press when the government treats them so well?

Jews are placed under surveillance inside Iran? Really? You should tell that to the Jews who say they travel to and from Israel "with no problems at all". Of course I guess your little State Department website knows more about the Jews inside Iran than they do. Plus it's not like the Iranian govt. doesn't watch over their general Muslim population. They are free to do whatever they want, right?

Surveillance doesn't mean problems. It just means you're in check. The State department sources are probably more credible than what a few individuals say.

There is no Iranian Law that states Jewish private schools have to be run by Muslim principals

apparently the State Department has sources, you have a comment. Nice.

The Jews inside Iran clearly said there is hardly any discrimination yet you continue to post your stupid State Department website quotes

...and you still ignore my point about the meaninglessness of what a few individuals say.

Iranian Jews left Iran because they had money and they left in 1979-1981. Of course you like to act like an idiot and don't seem to realize this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...#cite_note-littman3-19

"A spike in anti-Jewish sentiment occurred after the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 and continued until 1953 due to the weakening of the central government and strengthening of the clergy in the course of political struggles between the shah and prime minister Mohammad Mossadegh. Eliz Sanasarian estimates that in 1948?1953, about one-third of Iranian Jews, most of them poor, emigrated to Israel.[23] David Littman puts the total figure of emigrants to Israel in 1948-1978 at 70,000.[20]

You are the idiot who likes to take things out of context

All you have is the State Department's Website. Eve n so everything you listed above Happens with Muslims . Go cry.

apparently not:

Before 1948: 140,000-150,000 Jews
After 1948: 20,000-40,000 Jews

You also selectively ignore Palehorse's other exhibits.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Aimster
I posted 6 links in my original post

I see two... to blogspot no less!

you posted a state department link that describes the life of Iranians inside Iran. LoL. My links are from people who have lived there. Your link is by one guy who is paid some money to create a website. Unless you are telling me the State Department is better at journalism than Jpost, BBC and CBSNews. LOL

Oppressed Laws? LoL. Jews don't want to serve in the Iranian military and not being able to talk about Israel in the open is not oppression (LoL).

Are you jealous of my college degree? LoL.
This is from a guy who has been to Iraq/Afghanistan and Syria on a secret ops mission (LOLL). Hell you've even been to 10 other nations you listed which I don't care to remember. A guy who has 3 college degrees one of them being a masters. Yeah.
Either you are an old fart or you are full of b.s. You traveled the world, served in the military, post on ATOT at all hours of the day, and got 3 college degrees? I call B.S.

oh but wait University of Phoenix, college degree in 2 years by doing absolutely nothing. My bad Mr. college graduate.

LOL! I hope you realize someday just how fucking stupid you look around here! :roll:

I will not respond to any more of your posts on AT until you learn how to formulate and present a logical argument.

that bolded line is f'n classic man... wow.

good luck to you son.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: palehorse

Originally posted by: Aimster
I posted 6 links in my original post

I see two... to blogspot no less!

you posted a state department link that describes the life of Iranians inside Iran. LoL. My links are from people who have lived there. Your link is by one guy who is paid some money to create a website. Unless you are telling me the State Department is better at journalism than Jpost, BBC and CBSNews. LOL

Oppressed Laws? LoL. Jews don't want to serve in the Iranian military and not being able to talk about Israel in the open is not oppression (LoL).

Are you jealous of my college degree? LoL.
This is from a guy who has been to Iraq/Afghanistan and Syria on a secret ops mission (LOLL). Hell you've even been to 10 other nations you listed which I don't care to remember. A guy who has 3 college degrees one of them being a masters. Yeah.
Either you are an old fart or you are full of b.s. You traveled the world, served in the military, post on ATOT at all hours of the day, and got 3 college degrees? I call B.S.

oh but wait University of Phoenix, college degree in 2 years by doing absolutely nothing. My bad Mr. college graduate.

LOL! I hope you realize someday just how fucking stupid you look around here! :roll:

I will not respond to any more of your posts on AT until you learn how to formulate and present a logical argument.

that bolded line is f'n classic man... wow.

good luck to you son.

The poor Jews of Iran are not allowed to openly talk about Israel

When do we invade to liberate them?

I don't need luck. Everything you strive for in life I have accomplished. You will be the first to have a copy of my autobiography don't worry it's oK.

 

[KurskKnyaz]

They can leave Iran if they want.
They will get $10,000 for doing so too.

Do you understand this simple concept: Just because a government has a document legal policy of doing certain things, it does not mean that is the way things work. your statement is the large print. There is also fine print.

...and other purposes:

Ahmadenijad can claim that Jews love it here because if they didn't we would pay them $10,000 to leave. So because they are still here they must love it and we are nice guys. Jews in Iran get Armani suits just like British captives.

Aimster please explain this: If Jews can freely leave Iran then why have IDF special forces conducted several operations where they secretly (not anymore) airlifted Jews out of Iran?

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

They can leave Iran if they want.
They will get $10,000 for doing so too.

Do you understand this simple concept: Just because a government has a document legal policy of doing certain things, it does not mean that is the way things work. your statement is the large print. There is also fine print.

...and other purposes:

Ahmadenijad can claim that Jews love it here because if they didn't we would pay them $10,000 to leave. So because they are still here they must love it and we are nice guys. Jews in Iran get Armani suits just like British captives.

Aimster please explain this: If Jews can freely leave Iran then why have IDF special forces conducted several operations where they secretly (not anymore) airlifted Jews out of Iran?

that was Iraq
Israel has never conducted a special operation inside Iran. LoL. What the hell ru smoking?

You are just making a fool out of yourself I am getting annoyed of responding.

A Jewish group wants all the Iranians out of Iran so they offer to pay them $10,000. Jews are free to leave whenever the hell they want. Nobody is keeping them inside Iran.

 

[KurskKnyaz]

I posted 6 links in my original post

all 6 pointless

you posted a state department link that describes the life of Iranians inside Iran. LoL. My links are from people who have lived there. Your link is by one guy who is paid some money to create a website. Unless you are telling me the State Department is better at journalism than Jpost, BBC and CBSNews. LOL

all 6 links are useless and all anecdotal evidence is useless. Numbers are good though: when over 100,000 Jews flee Iran its not because there is a sale at the Tel Aviv Mall.

Oppressed Laws? LoL. Jews don't want to serve in the Iranian military and not being able to talk about Israel in the open is not oppression (LoL).

There is no fucking way you have a college degree.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz

I posted 6 links in my original post

all 6 pointless

you posted a state department link that describes the life of Iranians inside Iran. LoL. My links are from people who have lived there. Your link is by one guy who is paid some money to create a website. Unless you are telling me the State Department is better at journalism than Jpost, BBC and CBSNews. LOL

all 6 links are useless and all anecdotal evidence is useless. Numbers are good though: when over 100,000 Jews flee Iran its not because there is a sale at the Tel Aviv Mall.

Oppressed Laws? LoL. Jews don't want to serve in the Iranian military and not being able to talk about Israel in the open is not oppression (LoL).

There is no fucking way you have a college degree.

So the Jews inside Iran are suffering because they cannot talk positively about Israel in the open???

You are an idiot and for your information The Jewish leader of Parliament openly said the president of Iran was an idiot for calling the Holocaust a myth. So much for him being "restricted" on what to say. I was simply going on a "what if" analysis.

 

[KurskKnyaz]

They can leave Iran if they want.
They will get $10,000 for doing so too.

Do you understand this simple concept: Just because a government has a document legal policy of doing certain things, it does not mean that is the way things work. your statement is the large print. There is also fine print.

...and other purposes:

Ahmadenijad can claim that Jews love it here because if they didn't we would pay them $10,000 to leave. So because they are still here they must love it and we are nice guys. Jews in Iran get Armani suits just like British captives.

Aimster please explain this: If Jews can freely leave Iran then why have IDF special forces conducted several operations where they secretly (not anymore) airlifted Jews out of Iran?

that was Iraq
Israel has never conducted a special operation inside Iran. LoL. What the hell ru smoking

That was in many places not just Iraq. However the only evidence I can provide at the moment is on your level:

"Israel came to their rescue, sending planes in the middle of the night to airlift the Iranian Jews to safety. Leaving almost everything behind, Goldin's family joined other Jews at the Tehran airport, where they were packed two and three to a seat and into the aisles of the waiting jets. The planes took off almost vertically, without lights or help from the control tower, to avoid detection, Goldin says."

http://www.clevelandjewishnews.../local/iranjew0310.txt

You are just making a fool out of yourself I am getting annoyed of responding.

no, you are annoyed at getting owned and sounding like a complete idiot

A Jewish group wants all the Iranians out of Iran so they offer to pay them $10,000. Jews are free to leave whenever the hell they want. Nobody is keeping them inside Iran.

it takes two to bargain, stupid.

 

[Aimster]

Are you taking about Jews who left Iran before the revolution? LoL

Yes they faced a hard life under the Islamic Republic of Iran
Even though they never lived under it

Brilliant post. Just brilliant.
Stop posting. Your mind obviously shows signs of hardcore weed addiction.