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Originally posted by: Stoneburner
Originally posted by: ranmaniac
Both Jews and Muslims have more in common than any other religion.

They both don't eat pork.
They don't celebrate Christmas.
They sound like they're clearing their throat when pronouncing words.
They both yell on the phone when there's no emergency.
The only difference between the Muslims and Jews is that Jews never like to spend any money, and Muslims never have any money to spend.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xoXdQmw4A8

Christians really shouldn't be doing the first two. We all know Big Bacon lobbied the catholic church to drop the requirement during the Council of OscarMeyer. And Christmas is the continuation of the pagan/Roman/Greek celebration Saturnalia, the birth of saturn. The rest I wholeheartedly agree with.
Why shouldn't christians be eating pork? Is it a religious thing or a health thing? Or something else - like not eating horses.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: palehorse
This is Aimster's response to what you're about to read (from another thread)... so here's the other side of the coin... now with 100% more linkage and no ancestral bias!

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blah blah blah bunch of slanted nonsense

good job. you linked a bunch of non-reputable, biased sources...

Please feel free to actually address the points I made; and, at least for most real Americans, studies done by the US State Department are a perfectly valid source of information on the political atmosphere and living conditions in other nations.

Then again, you're probably too arrogant or lazy to post a real rebuttal, sooo... albeit misguided, and completely wrong, at least Aimster tried to articulate a reasonable response.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: palehorse
This is Aimster's response to what you're about to read (from another thread)... so here's the other side of the coin... now with 100% more linkage and no ancestral bias!

--- --- ---

blah blah blah bunch of slanted nonsense

good job. you linked a bunch of non-reputable, biased sources...

Please feel free to actually address the points I made; and, at least for most real Americans, studies done by the US State Department are a perfectly valid source of information on the political atmosphere and living conditions in other nations.

Then again, you're probably too arrogant or lazy to post a real rebuttal, sooo... albeit misguided, and completely wrong, at least Aimster tried to articulate a reasonable response.

I posted 3 articles from BBC 1 from ABCNews and 2 from JPOST

This is what we have learned in this thread

*Jews who live inside Iran are not complaining
*Jews who have left Iran and lived inside Iran during the current regime are not complaining
*Jews who left Iran during the current regime who are in Israel are returning back to Iran
*Jews are free to leave Iran whenever they want

so really to sum it up

Jews inside are not complaining
Jews outside Iran are not complaining
Palehorse is complaining

you = tool
 

palehorse

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: palehorse
This is Aimster's response to what you're about to read (from another thread)... so here's the other side of the coin... now with 100% more linkage and no ancestral bias!

--- --- ---

blah blah blah bunch of slanted nonsense

good job. you linked a bunch of non-reputable, biased sources...

Please feel free to actually address the points I made; and, at least for most real Americans, studies done by the US State Department are a perfectly valid source of information on the political atmosphere and living conditions in other nations.

Then again, you're probably too arrogant or lazy to post a real rebuttal, sooo... albeit misguided, and completely wrong, at least Aimster tried to articulate a reasonable response.

I posted 3 articles from BBC 1 from ABCNews and 2 from JPOST

This is what we have learned in this thread

*Jews who live inside Iran are not complaining
*Jews who have left Iran and lived inside Iran during the current regime are not complaining
*Jews who left Iran during the current regime who are in Israel are returning back to Iran
*Jews are free to leave Iran whenever they want

so really to sum it up

Jews inside are not complaining
Jews outside Iran are not complaining
Palehorse is complaining

you = tool

LOL! Seriously... Aimster, you have not posted a single logical or substantiated rebuttal to anything I've challenged you with -- not one. Everything you've written is subjective anecdotal bullshit, or some sort of adolescent emotional rant with no point or reason. You have quite clearly demonstrated that you've never studied or learned the constructs of debate and argument.

You got fucking owned man. The only ones who don't realize that are you and your twin sister Eits.

/thread
 

eits

Lifer
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Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: palehorse
This is Aimster's response to what you're about to read (from another thread)... so here's the other side of the coin... now with 100% more linkage and no ancestral bias!

--- --- ---

blah blah blah bunch of slanted nonsense

good job. you linked a bunch of non-reputable, biased sources...

Please feel free to actually address the points I made; and, at least for most real Americans, studies done by the US State Department are a perfectly valid source of information on the political atmosphere and living conditions in other nations.

Then again, you're probably too arrogant or lazy to post a real rebuttal, sooo... albeit misguided, and completely wrong, at least Aimster tried to articulate a reasonable response.

why waste my time? i was just pointing out that you're blaming aimster for not having reputable sources when he's citing valid and notable news outlets, like bbc and abcnews, versus your bush administration agenda link. last time i checked, bbc and abcnews didn't lie to the public and still had integrity whereas the bush administration's integrity is floating somewhere in the toilet along with my corn-laden shit.

you're basing the views of iran based on what a crazy figurehead says and you'll never deviate from your ignorant stance on the matter... so what's it matter if i articulate a reasonable response or not? when you wake up tomorrow morning, you'll still be a fucking idiot.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: palehorse
This is Aimster's response to what you're about to read (from another thread)... so here's the other side of the coin... now with 100% more linkage and no ancestral bias!

--- --- ---

blah blah blah bunch of slanted nonsense

good job. you linked a bunch of non-reputable, biased sources...

Please feel free to actually address the points I made; and, at least for most real Americans, studies done by the US State Department are a perfectly valid source of information on the political atmosphere and living conditions in other nations.

Then again, you're probably too arrogant or lazy to post a real rebuttal, sooo... albeit misguided, and completely wrong, at least Aimster tried to articulate a reasonable response.

I posted 3 articles from BBC 1 from ABCNews and 2 from JPOST

This is what we have learned in this thread

*Jews who live inside Iran are not complaining
*Jews who have left Iran and lived inside Iran during the current regime are not complaining
*Jews who left Iran during the current regime who are in Israel are returning back to Iran
*Jews are free to leave Iran whenever they want

so really to sum it up

Jews inside are not complaining
Jews outside Iran are not complaining
Palehorse is complaining

you = tool

LOL! Seriously... Aimster, you have not posted a single logical or substantiated rebuttal to anything I've challenged you with -- not one. Everything you've written is subjective anecdotal bullshit, or some sort of adolescent emotional rant with no point or reason. You have quite clearly demonstrated that you've never studied or learned the constructs of debate and argument.

You got fucking owned man. The only ones who don't realize that are you and your twin sister Eits.

/thread

Again:

Jews inside are not complaining
Jews outside Iran are not complaining
Palehorse is complaining

I like how you think your word > Jews of Iran.

 

JD50

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Aimster and Eits, why don't you actually address the points made by Palehorse? I like to see both sides of the story, it'd be nice if one of you would make a point by point rebuttal, hopefully with something other than "well this Iranian Jew that I know said that he's happy".

Oh and, by the way, Homosexuals inside Iran aren't complaining either, gee, I wonder why?
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: JD50
Aimster and Eits, why don't you actually address the points made by Palehorse? I like to see both sides of the story, it'd be nice if one of you would make a point by point rebuttal, hopefully with something other than "well this Iranian Jew that I know said that he's happy".

Oh and, by the way, Homosexuals inside Iran aren't complaining either, gee, I wonder why?

I have shared with you the voice of the Jews both inside Iran and outside Iran.

You can ignore them and speak for them if you like. Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?
 

JD50

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: JD50
Aimster and Eits, why don't you actually address the points made by Palehorse? I like to see both sides of the story, it'd be nice if one of you would make a point by point rebuttal, hopefully with something other than "well this Iranian Jew that I know said that he's happy".

Oh and, by the way, Homosexuals inside Iran aren't complaining either, gee, I wonder why?

I have shared with you the voice of the Jews both inside Iran and outside Iran.

You can ignore them and speak for them if you like. Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?

Palehorse made some very good points, and was very convincing. Since you are such an expert in the field I'm sure you'd thoroughly own him with a point by point rebuttal. I'd like to see it.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: JD50
Aimster and Eits, why don't you actually address the points made by Palehorse? I like to see both sides of the story, it'd be nice if one of you would make a point by point rebuttal, hopefully with something other than "well this Iranian Jew that I know said that he's happy".

Oh and, by the way, Homosexuals inside Iran aren't complaining either, gee, I wonder why?

I have shared with you the voice of the Jews both inside Iran and outside Iran.

You can ignore them and speak for them if you like. Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?

Palehorse made some very good points, and was very convincing. Since you are such an expert in the field I'm sure you'd thoroughly own him with a point by point rebuttal. I'd like to see it.

He made good points?
He made zero points.

If Jews hate Iran so much they can leave and if they hated it so much why the hell would they return from Israel?

Neither you nor him posted anything from a credible source.


 

eits

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: JD50
Aimster and Eits, why don't you actually address the points made by Palehorse? I like to see both sides of the story, it'd be nice if one of you would make a point by point rebuttal, hopefully with something other than "well this Iranian Jew that I know said that he's happy".

Oh and, by the way, Homosexuals inside Iran aren't complaining either, gee, I wonder why?

I have shared with you the voice of the Jews both inside Iran and outside Iran.

You can ignore them and speak for them if you like. Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?

Palehorse made some very good points, and was very convincing. Since you are such an expert in the field I'm sure you'd thoroughly own him with a point by point rebuttal. I'd like to see it.

uh, he made no points man...

the fact of the matter is that the jews in iran are happy... they're not forced to do anything. they don't live in fear or hide their star of david.

none of you have even met iranian jews, inside or outside of iran... but i'm sure one of you will assuredly say that you had and how they complained about the horrible treatment or some bullshit story.

look, just accept the truth that jews in iran are not treated anything lower than an equal to a muslim.

religion isn't even a big deal in iran... no one really gives a fuck. it's as secular as the u.s.
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: palehorse
This is Aimster's response to what you're about to read (from another thread)... so here's the other side of the coin... now with 100% more linkage and no ancestral bias!

--- --- ---

blah blah blah bunch of slanted nonsense

good job. you linked a bunch of non-reputable, biased sources...

Please feel free to actually address the points I made; and, at least for most real Americans, studies done by the US State Department are a perfectly valid source of information on the political atmosphere and living conditions in other nations.

Then again, you're probably too arrogant or lazy to post a real rebuttal, sooo... albeit misguided, and completely wrong, at least Aimster tried to articulate a reasonable response.

I posted 3 articles from BBC 1 from ABCNews and 2 from JPOST

This is what we have learned in this thread

*Jews who live inside Iran are not complaining
*Jews who have left Iran and lived inside Iran during the current regime are not complaining
*Jews who left Iran during the current regime who are in Israel are returning back to Iran
*Jews are free to leave Iran whenever they want

so really to sum it up

Jews inside are not complaining
Jews outside Iran are not complaining
Palehorse is complaining

you = tool

spot on, i don't hear any bad things from people who still live in north korea. it must be because they have nothing to complain about.
clearly this logic is perfect.
 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: palehorse
This is Aimster's response to what you're about to read (from another thread)... so here's the other side of the coin... now with 100% more linkage and no ancestral bias!

--- --- ---

blah blah blah bunch of slanted nonsense

good job. you linked a bunch of non-reputable, biased sources...

Please feel free to actually address the points I made; and, at least for most real Americans, studies done by the US State Department are a perfectly valid source of information on the political atmosphere and living conditions in other nations.

Then again, you're probably too arrogant or lazy to post a real rebuttal, sooo... albeit misguided, and completely wrong, at least Aimster tried to articulate a reasonable response.

I posted 3 articles from BBC 1 from ABCNews and 2 from JPOST

This is what we have learned in this thread

*Jews who live inside Iran are not complaining
*Jews who have left Iran and lived inside Iran during the current regime are not complaining
*Jews who left Iran during the current regime who are in Israel are returning back to Iran
*Jews are free to leave Iran whenever they want

so really to sum it up

Jews inside are not complaining
Jews outside Iran are not complaining
Palehorse is complaining

you = tool

spot on, i don't hear any bad things from people who still live in north korea. it must be because they have nothing to complain about.
clearly this logic is perfect.

People who left North Korea talk smack about North Korea. & there are plenty of articles where people say North Korea sucks. Plenty of articles that show people from North Korea dying to escape

You FAIL

Best you got? Seriously do a search on any anti-Muslim thread or anything that has to do with Israel and you will be in there rambling on. Always saying something negative about Muslims and always defending Israel ALWAYS.
So why should anyone take any of your posts seriously?
 

KurskKnyaz

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Originally posted by: Aimster

"Jews here have great Iranian roots ? they love Iran," says chairman Moresadegh. "Personally, I would stay in Iran no matter what. I speak in English, I pray in Hebrew, but my thinking is Persian."

Freud was once asked to sign a document by the Gestapo stating he was treated respectfully. At the end he wrote: ""I can heartily recommend the Gestapo to anyone.""


In the article below we reported that last year President Ahmadinejad said (quoting the late Ayatollah Khomeini) that Israel should be "wiped off the map". A more literal translation of the statement he made in 2005, at The World without Zionism conference in Tehran, is "the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".?

let me translate:

"vanish from the page of time" = as time further progresses the regime will no longer exist.

"must" = The key word is must which is an auxiliary noun. That means action must be taken for this to happen.

What kind of action can someone take to cause a regime of an independent nation to vanish? Take a guess.

When putting it all together what was said was simply a euphemism for "Israel must be destroyed". The initial international response to the statement was correct.

Iran?s Ex President says Holocaust is NOT a myth
BBC
?President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad brought international criticism when he called the Holocaust a "myth" last year.
Mr Khatami said the Holocaust was a "massacre of innocent people, among them many Jews", Iran media reported.
?He added: "We should speak out if even a single Jew is killed. Don't forget that one of the crimes of Hitler, Nazism and German National Socialism was the massacre of innocent people, among them many Jews."

All that means is that he likes contradicting himself. You buy into propaganda too much. Does dressing up British captives in suits make the Iranian regime nice guys?
 

KurskKnyaz

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Jews speaking for themselves versus state department's website/wikipedia

You clearly win.

No matter how many Iranian Jews talk to you for some reason you try to TALK for us. Impressive.

You don't understand simple propaganda: Iran gives Jews a seat in parliament that they can't do shit with so that Ahmedenijad can say: "Look, we're nice guys we have nothing against Jews"

 

KurskKnyaz

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"Jews inside Iran are happy. Jews who left Iran say Iran was not bad. Who are you to discredit them?

I can point out some Jews that claim the Holocaust never happened. What is your point.
 

KurskKnyaz

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*Jews who live inside Iran are not complaining

Because they are happy or can't complain?

*Jews who have left Iran and lived inside Iran during the current regime are not complaining
*Jews who left Iran during the current regime who are in Israel are returning back to Iran

pointless anecdotal evidence.

*Jews are free to leave Iran whenever they want*

my mother was legally allowed to leave the Soviet Union whenever she wanted. She just needed parental permission from my ultra-nationalist grandfather. Once she would get that there were many other loopholes set into place to keep a grown 30-year-old from leaving.


Jews inside are not complaining
Jews outside Iran are not complaining
Palehorse is complaining

you = tool
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No one in communist Russia complained either. You're the tool.
 

KurskKnyaz

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Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?

Are you? You sound like Ahmadenijad's Jewish PR guy.

Cut the bullshit. I do believe that the Iranian secular Muslims don't discriminate against Jews. As for the Islamic government, it uses whatever Jews are left in Iran for propaganda. This is what you have a hard time understanding. You don't hear about the Islamic regime discriminating against Jews because it is overshadowed by reports of them discriminating against everyone in the country who does not want to abide by religious law. Your arguments hold no water. They are the equivalent of claiming that southern blacks in the US were always treated fairly because a law existed that said they are to be equal (and separate).

I think this thread has reached its end. People are not going to waste time arguing with you when all you try to do is use faulty logic in an attempt to win arguments. Come pack when you want to have a more serious discussion.
 

KurskKnyaz

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why waste my time? i was just pointing out that you're blaming aimster for not having reputable sources when he's citing valid and notable news outlets, like bbc and abcnews, versus your bush administration agenda link.

The sources are valid just like US News. Bush said Iraq had WMDs and ABC/CBS/FOX news was correct, he did say that. BBC reported that an Iranian Jew said "it's all good here" and the BBC was correct because that statement was made.

Does that mean Iraq has WMDs?


 

Aimster

Lifer
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Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz
Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?

Are you? You sound like Ahmadenijad's Jewish PR guy.

Cut the bullshit. I do believe that the Iranian secular Muslims don't discriminate against Jews. As for the Islamic government, it uses whatever Jews are left in Iran for propaganda. This is what you have a hard time understanding. You don't hear about the Islamic regime discriminating against Jews because it is overshadowed by reports of them discriminating against everyone in the country who does not want to abide by religious law. Your arguments hold no water. They are the equivalent of claiming that southern blacks in the US were always treated fairly because a law existed that said they are to be equal (and separate).

I think this thread has reached its end. People are not going to waste time arguing with you when all you try to do is use faulty logic in an attempt to win arguments. Come pack when you want to have a more serious discussion.

I am an Iranian Jew

& eits is an Iranian who is not Muslim so I suppose he is a Christian

All the hillbillies have flocked to this thread. Brilliant

My sources don't provide information they provide quotes from Jews outside Iran LOL

go Cry
 

nick1985

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Jews in Nazi Germany didnt openly complain either...does that mean it was a nice place to be stuck living?
 

eits

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Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz
*Jews who live inside Iran are not complaining

Because they are happy or can't complain?

*Jews who have left Iran and lived inside Iran during the current regime are not complaining
*Jews who left Iran during the current regime who are in Israel are returning back to Iran

pointless anecdotal evidence.

*Jews are free to leave Iran whenever they want*

my mother was legally allowed to leave the Soviet Union whenever she wanted. She just needed parental permission from my ultra-nationalist grandfather. Once she would get that there were many other loopholes set into place to keep a grown 30-year-old from leaving.


Jews inside are not complaining
Jews outside Iran are not complaining
Palehorse is complaining

you = tool

No one in communist Russia complained either. You're the tool.
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you can't compare communist russia to iran... it's completely different
 

eits

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Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz
Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?

Are you? You sound like Ahmadenijad's Jewish PR guy.

Cut the bullshit. I do believe that the Iranian secular Muslims don't discriminate against Jews. As for the Islamic government, it uses whatever Jews are left in Iran for propaganda. This is what you have a hard time understanding. You don't hear about the Islamic regime discriminating against Jews because it is overshadowed by reports of them discriminating against everyone in the country who does not want to abide by religious law. Your arguments hold no water. They are the equivalent of claiming that southern blacks in the US were always treated fairly because a law existed that said they are to be equal (and separate).

I think this thread has reached its end. People are not going to waste time arguing with you when all you try to do is use faulty logic in an attempt to win arguments. Come pack when you want to have a more serious discussion.

incorrect.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz
Are any of you Iranian Jews who have recently lived inside Iran?

Are you? You sound like Ahmadenijad's Jewish PR guy.

Cut the bullshit. I do believe that the Iranian secular Muslims don't discriminate against Jews. As for the Islamic government, it uses whatever Jews are left in Iran for propaganda. This is what you have a hard time understanding. You don't hear about the Islamic regime discriminating against Jews because it is overshadowed by reports of them discriminating against everyone in the country who does not want to abide by religious law. Your arguments hold no water. They are the equivalent of claiming that southern blacks in the US were always treated fairly because a law existed that said they are to be equal (and separate).

I think this thread has reached its end. People are not going to waste time arguing with you when all you try to do is use faulty logic in an attempt to win arguments. Come pack when you want to have a more serious discussion.

I am an Iranian Jew

& eits is an Iranian who is not Muslim so I suppose he is a Christian

All the hillbillies have flocked to this thread. Brilliant

My sources don't provide information they provide quotes from Jews outside Iran LOL

go Cry

i'm more jewish than anything.