Jewish "bomber" seized before Jerusalem gay parade

[imported_dna]

If you want to know, then read the previous messages and you'll see what I've shown about Narmer and his remark. However, you also seem eager to use the label terrorist just because it vaguely fits the profile.

As for going apeshit over muslim terrorism, I hate to break it to you but they seem to have a monopoly on that market at the moment.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: dna
If you want to know, then read the previous messages and you'll see what I've shown about Narmer and his remark. However, you also seem eager to use the label terrorist just because it vaguely fits the profile.

If we're going to debate the finer points of who is and who is not a terrorist, I think I'd have more objections to your usage of the term than the other way around. Blowing up a public parade that's celebrating an idea you disagree with is almost certainly a terrorist act, while setting off a roadside bomb designed to kill soldiers in a military vehicle is almost certainly not terrorism. This is not a value judgment, as both are wrong, but "terrorism" is actually a pretty specific idea...it's abused way too much in our culture, and this Jewish bomber is actually one of the more accurate usages of the term.

As for going apeshit over muslim terrorism, I hate to break it to you but they seem to have a monopoly on that market at the moment.

Obviously they don't, because this Jew was doing something pretty terrorist like if you ask me, and this is hardly the only other example. But that wasn't really my point. I'm saying that people seem more concerned about the broad idea of terrorism than in individual acts of terrorism. Like I said, it hardly makes any difference to ME whether the idiot who killed me was doing so because he thinks Allah told him to or because he doesn't like the way I voted in the last election. People are focusing on a specific terrorism threat (fanatical Muslims) that they seem less concerned about the threat of terrorism in general. The two are NOT the same, and while human nature makes us want to put a face on a threat, it's a silly security approach to do so.

 

[imported_dna]

Whichever way you want to spin it, it all boils down to an attempt to create a counter-argument in which you'd tout this fella with his "home made explosive device" to any Palestinian suicide bombing. Sorry buddy, they just ain't equal.

All this fuss is very much reminiscent of the "Israeli Terrorist" that turned out to be a muslim that converted to a judaism, probably to further he's goals. On that day the AP discovered the word terrorism and slapped it right on the title.

 

[dmens]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
And yet there are violent fanatics even in places like Israel and practicing non-Muslim faiths. I might be wrong, but I think senseamp's point was that it's stupid to judge an entire religion or people whenever some violent idiot gets on the news.

Who's judging? Just him it seems.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: dna
Whichever way you want to spin it, it all boils down to an attempt to create a counter-argument in which you'd tout this fella with his "home made explosive device" to any Palestinian suicide bombing. Sorry buddy, they just ain't equal.

All this fuss is very much reminiscent of the "Israeli Terrorist" that turned out to be a muslim that converted to a judaism, probably to further he's goals. On that day the AP discovered the word terrorism and slapped it right on the title.

There is no attempt to create equality of actions or beliefs, I'm simply trying to make the point that the "fuss" over terrorism seems oddly misdirected, folks seem WAY more concerned about the word "Muslim" in "Muslim terrorism" than the terrorism part of it. Terrorism is terrorism, regardless of what church the terrorist attends or what day he considers holy. This bizarre obsession with MUSLIM terrorism in particular is pretty weird considering that any concern with terrorism in general includes Muslim terrorists.

As for the fuss here, it seems mostly coming from folks like you, who seem to be getting all in a huff that anyone would DARE act concerned about non-Muslim terrorism.

 

[imported_dna]

If you think that not labeling the guy a terrorist is the greatest case of hypocrisy ever, then go ahead and believe that. As it stands Israeli police has detained the individual. The same cannot be said about Palestinians and their actual suicide bombers.

Also, perhaps terrorism wouldn't be so synonymous muslim if they did more to police their own community, but I think the recent events in England show what's really going on, and the level of extremism in the population.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: dna
If you think that not labeling the guy a terrorist is the greatest case of hypocrisy ever, then go ahead and believe that. As it stands Israeli police has detained the individual. The same cannot be said about Palestinians and their actual suicide bombers.

Also, perhaps terrorism wouldn't be so synonymous muslim if they did more to police their own community, but I think the recent events in England show what's really going on, and the level of extremism in the population.

Kind of hard to police the jidhadist community when the governments financial support terrorist activities.

😀

 

[SpeedZealot369]

you guys need to understand how holy the city of jerusalem is for the jews and for the world... gayness is condemned heavily in the jewish (real) bible as one of the worst sins.. you guys should be asking how the heck there was only one guy doing this and not thousands...

Why do they need to parade anyway?? you don't see straight people parading do you? what are they trying to prove?

 

[toolboxolio]

Originally posted by: senseamp
Religion of peace in action.

That refers to the Muslim religion. This is a Jewish terrorist.

Nice troll, though.

 

[Narmer]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
you guys need to understand how holy the city of jerusalem is for the jews and for the world... gayness is condemned heavily in the jewish (real) bible as one of the worst sins.. you guys should be asking how the heck there was only one guy doing this and not thousands...

Why do they need to parade anyway?? you don't see straight people parading do you? what are they trying to prove?</end quote></div>

Do you approve of the Jewish terrorist's action then?

Originally posted by: Rainsford
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: dna
Whichever way you want to spin it, it all boils down to an attempt to create a counter-argument in which you'd tout this fella with his "home made explosive device" to any Palestinian suicide bombing. Sorry buddy, they just ain't equal.

All this fuss is very much reminiscent of the "Israeli Terrorist" that turned out to be a muslim that converted to a judaism, probably to further he's goals. On that day the AP discovered the word terrorism and slapped it right on the title.</end quote></div>

There is no attempt to create equality of actions or beliefs, I'm simply trying to make the point that the "fuss" over terrorism seems oddly misdirected, folks seem WAY more concerned about the word "Muslim" in "Muslim terrorism" than the terrorism part of it. Terrorism is terrorism, regardless of what church the terrorist attends or what day he considers holy. This bizarre obsession with MUSLIM terrorism in particular is pretty weird considering that any concern with terrorism in general includes Muslim terrorists.

As for the fuss here, it seems mostly coming from folks like you, who seem to be getting all in a huff that anyone would DARE act concerned about non-Muslim terrorism.

Hey man, it's no use wasting your time with this tool. He clearly loves his Jewish terrorists too much to call them by name. Yet, if a muslim man is found staring at a tall building, tools like dna will automatically assume he's a terrorist. For them, there is no double standard because muslim=terrorism.

 

[imported_dna]

Heh....

Narmer is ecstatic: he found a vague enough reason to use the term "Jewish Terrorist", and now he'll parade it like nothing else matters.

Kinda of hypocritical of him to complain about hypocrisy when he rationalizes and justifies other acts of terrorism; I suppose he doesn't get the irony of it.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: dna
Heh....

Narmer is ecstatic: he found a vague enough reason to use the term "Jewish Terrorist", and now he'll parade it like nothing else matters.

Kinda of hypocritical of him to complain about hypocrisy when he rationalizes and justifies other acts of terrorism; I suppose he doesn't get the irony of it.

You find what I said ironic but you don't deny it. Telling indeed.

 

[imported_dna]

Don't deny what? Is that another attempt at being vague?

Seriously, I think you're doing much better analyzing soldier sex-life than trying to be an authority on terrorism.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: dna
Don't deny what? Is that another attempt at being vague?

Seriously, I think you're doing much better analyzing soldier sex-life than trying to be an authority on terrorism.

You don't deny the fact that you will never call a jew a terrorist. No need for you to reply to that accusation seeing that others have called you out and yet you continue to spew your garbage defending this jewish terrorist. In fact, I only see you post when it deals with Israel or jews so you must be some kind of syncophant, but I guess you already know that.

 

[imported_dna]

I wouldn't call him a terrorist, since the event doesn't seem so major, especially when nothing happened and we don't know what was that so called explosive device.

However, you're the one who won't admit that you want to call him a terrorist since you're unlikely to get another chance to use the term for a very long time. So sad.

As for the particular topics on which I comment, I was not aware that I need to live up to some standard. This forum is open for all, and anyone can comment on what they please. You chose to make comments in support of terrorists, while I try to straighten up people like you, while also countering baloney and lies by the likes of Jhhnn.

If you don't like it, then too bad.

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: dna
I wouldn't call him a terrorist, since the event doesn't seem so major, especially when nothing happened and we don't know what was that so called explosive device.

However, you're the one who won't admit that you want to call him a terrorist since you're unlikely to get another chance to use the term for a very long time. So sad.

As for the particular topics on which I comment, I was not aware that I need to live up to some standard. This forum is open for all, and anyone can comment on what they please. You chose to make comments in support of terrorists, while I try to straighten up people like you, while also countering baloney and lies by the likes of Jhhnn.

If you don't like it, then too bad.

Those settlers in the West Bank terrorize the Palestinians everyday but it only gets reported when they actually manage to kill one or steal their property. Those are your friends. To you, they're not terrorists, but to the rest of the world they are, therefore I have plenty of opportunities now and in the future. Ironically, you call the people fighting them terrorists. People like you use that word so liberally that it ceases to have any meaning.

As for straightening me out, you're doing one heck of a job seeing that, according to you, my beliefs are firmly entrenched and tools like you have yet to phase me one bit. But the harder you try, the louder the chorus against you will grow, as evidenced by this thread.

 

[Noobtastic]

I wouldn't call him a terrorist, since the event doesn't seem so major, especially when nothing happened and we don't know what was that so called explosive device.

However, you're the one who won't admit that you want to call him a terrorist since you're unlikely to get another chance to use the term for a very long time. So sad.

As for the particular topics on which I comment, I was not aware that I need to live up to some standard. This forum is open for all, and anyone can comment on what they please. You chose to make comments in support of terrorists, while I try to straighten up people like you, while also countering baloney and lies by the likes of Jhhnn.

If you don't like it, then too bad.
Those settlers in the West Bank terrorize the Palestinians everyday but it only gets reported when they actually manage to kill one or steal their property.

What are you talking about? It's the Palestinians who terrorize the settlers. They're the ones demanding the poor Israeli's to be evicted, which many were by the way. The palestinians aren't innocent children sitting outside the door steps of a giant mansion.

The west bank isn't anything special.

The palestinians are the ones who constantly attack and bomb Israeli on a DAILY BASIS. Israel has been very conservative with aggression over the past couple years.

People can't seem to grasph just how often suicide bombers try to enter into Israel.


No one seems to care about that. It's only when Israel bombs palestinian terrorist hide out where civilians are located in (collateral damage) the world screams bloody murder. Nobody cares about where the financial backing for these terrorists come from (Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria) and nobody cares about the reasons behind terrorists seeking refuge among family members.


The arabs exploit the palestinians and use them as a tool to point the finger at Israel. Any counter-attack by Israeli is immediately humped and automatically considered "unnecessary, or overly aggressive" which is complete utter bulls**t.

I'm not denying the fact that Israel is an aggressive country, but under the circumstances and the unrelenting pressure from no-shame islamic theocracies...you can't blame them, at least no entirely.

When it gets down to the FACTS, the zealot loonies who poke fun at Israeli and label them zionist terrorists transform into apathetic idiots. "Oh, let them kill each other."

Those are your friends. To you, they're not terrorists, but to the rest of the world they are, therefore I have plenty of opportunities now and in the future. Ironically, you call the people fighting them terrorists. People like you use that word so liberally that it ceases to have any meaning.

Palestinians camps = concentrated housing with terrorist infection sourced from neighboring islamic countries

Israel = tiny patch of desert that the entire arab world is fighting over. Don't start with the "Jews stole the land" because 40% of the population lived in the area before the british mandate...plus they were much more spread out as a population than the palestinians.

I don't see you whining about the arab ceasures and wars where people have been kicked out of their state for no reason whatsoever.

Israel, in the least, as backing and historical justification for its establishment. It's not like Israel wants to incinerate the neighboring countries, or conquer the world.

begin quote>As for straightening me out, you're doing one heck of a job seeing that, according to you, my beliefs are firmly entrenched and tools like you have yet to phase me one bit. But the harder you try, the louder the chorus against you will grow, as evidenced by this thread.

I tend to stray away from personal attacks.



edit: There is something seriously wrong with anandtech forum coding. Everything worked fine before the update, and now ever I try to update a quoted page...it gets all weird..like this:

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instead of

:frown:

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Narmer
Those settlers in the West Bank terrorize the Palestinians everyday but it only gets reported when they actually manage to kill one or steal their property.

I'm curious how you know this.

 

[SpeedZealot369]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>
I wouldn't call him a terrorist, since the event doesn't seem so major, especially when nothing happened and we don't know what was that so called explosive device.

However, you're the one who won't admit that you want to call him a terrorist since you're unlikely to get another chance to use the term for a very long time. So sad.

As for the particular topics on which I comment, I was not aware that I need to live up to some standard. This forum is open for all, and anyone can comment on what they please. You chose to make comments in support of terrorists, while I try to straighten up people like you, while also countering baloney and lies by the likes of Jhhnn.

If you don't like it, then too bad.
Those settlers in the West Bank terrorize the Palestinians everyday but it only gets reported when they actually manage to kill one or steal their property. </end quote></div>

What are you talking about? It's the Palestinians who terrorize the settlers. They're the ones demanding the poor Israeli's to be evicted, which many were by the way. The palestinians aren't innocent children sitting outside the door steps of a giant mansion.

The west bank isn't anything special.

The palestinians are the ones who constantly attack and bomb Israeli on a DAILY BASIS. Israel has been very conservative with aggression over the past couple years.

People can't seem to grasph just how often suicide bombers try to enter into Israel.


No one seems to care about that. It's only when Israel bombs palestinian terrorist hide out where civilians are located in (collateral damage) the world screams bloody murder. Nobody cares about where the financial backing for these terrorists come from (Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria) and nobody cares about the reasons behind terrorists seeking refuge among family members.


The arabs exploit the palestinians and use them as a tool to point the finger at Israel. Any counter-attack by Israeli is immediately humped and automatically considered "unnecessary, or overly aggressive" which is complete utter bulls**t.

I'm not denying the fact that Israel is an aggressive country, but under the circumstances and the unrelenting pressure from no-shame islamic theocracies...you can't blame them, at least no entirely.

When it gets down to the FACTS, the zealot loonies who poke fun at Israeli and label them zionist terrorists transform into apathetic idiots. "Oh, let them kill each other."




<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Those are your friends. To you, they're not terrorists, but to the rest of the world they are, therefore I have plenty of opportunities now and in the future. Ironically, you call the people fighting them terrorists. People like you use that word so liberally that it ceases to have any meaning.</end quote></div>

Palestinians camps = concentrated housing with terrorist infection sourced from neighboring islamic countries

Israel = tiny patch of desert that the entire arab world is fighting over. Don't start with the "Jews stole the land" because 40% of the population lived in the area before the british mandate...plus they were much more spread out as a population than the palestinians.

I don't see you whining about the arab ceasures and wars where people have been kicked out of their state for no reason whatsoever.

Israel, in the least, as backing and historical justification for its establishment. It's not like Israel wants to incinerate the neighboring countries, or conquer the world.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>begin quote>As for straightening me out, you're doing one heck of a job seeing that, according to you, my beliefs are firmly entrenched and tools like you have yet to phase me one bit. But the harder you try, the louder the chorus against you will grow, as evidenced by this thread.</end quote></div>

I tend to stray away from personal attacks.




Noobtastic. that was an amazing comment, I even saved it for use later. I wish more can see the truth like we do. You painted the extemely true and sad picture of Israel's struggle. Phenominal comment.

 

[Noobtastic]

Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Noobtastic
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>
I wouldn't call him a terrorist, since the event doesn't seem so major, especially when nothing happened and we don't know what was that so called explosive device.

However, you're the one who won't admit that you want to call him a terrorist since you're unlikely to get another chance to use the term for a very long time. So sad.

As for the particular topics on which I comment, I was not aware that I need to live up to some standard. This forum is open for all, and anyone can comment on what they please. You chose to make comments in support of terrorists, while I try to straighten up people like you, while also countering baloney and lies by the likes of Jhhnn.

If you don't like it, then too bad.
Those settlers in the West Bank terrorize the Palestinians everyday but it only gets reported when they actually manage to kill one or steal their property. </end quote></div>

What are you talking about? It's the Palestinians who terrorize the settlers. They're the ones demanding the poor Israeli's to be evicted, which many were by the way. The palestinians aren't innocent children sitting outside the door steps of a giant mansion.

The west bank isn't anything special.

The palestinians are the ones who constantly attack and bomb Israeli on a DAILY BASIS. Israel has been very conservative with aggression over the past couple years.

People can't seem to grasph just how often suicide bombers try to enter into Israel.


No one seems to care about that. It's only when Israel bombs palestinian terrorist hide out where civilians are located in (collateral damage) the world screams bloody murder. Nobody cares about where the financial backing for these terrorists come from (Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria) and nobody cares about the reasons behind terrorists seeking refuge among family members.


The arabs exploit the palestinians and use them as a tool to point the finger at Israel. Any counter-attack by Israeli is immediately humped and automatically considered "unnecessary, or overly aggressive" which is complete utter bulls**t.

I'm not denying the fact that Israel is an aggressive country, but under the circumstances and the unrelenting pressure from no-shame islamic theocracies...you can't blame them, at least no entirely.

When it gets down to the FACTS, the zealot loonies who poke fun at Israeli and label them zionist terrorists transform into apathetic idiots. "Oh, let them kill each other."




<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Those are your friends. To you, they're not terrorists, but to the rest of the world they are, therefore I have plenty of opportunities now and in the future. Ironically, you call the people fighting them terrorists. People like you use that word so liberally that it ceases to have any meaning.</end quote></div>

Palestinians camps = concentrated housing with terrorist infection sourced from neighboring islamic countries

Israel = tiny patch of desert that the entire arab world is fighting over. Don't start with the "Jews stole the land" because 40% of the population lived in the area before the british mandate...plus they were much more spread out as a population than the palestinians.

I don't see you whining about the arab ceasures and wars where people have been kicked out of their state for no reason whatsoever.

Israel, in the least, as backing and historical justification for its establishment. It's not like Israel wants to incinerate the neighboring countries, or conquer the world.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>begin quote>As for straightening me out, you're doing one heck of a job seeing that, according to you, my beliefs are firmly entrenched and tools like you have yet to phase me one bit. But the harder you try, the louder the chorus against you will grow, as evidenced by this thread.</end quote></div>

I tend to stray away from personal attacks.




Noobtastic. that was an amazing comment, I even saved it for use later. I wish more can see the truth like we do. You painted the extemely true and sad picture of Israel's struggle. Phenominal comment.

I sense a hint of sarcasm.

😀

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Narmer
Those settlers in the West Bank terrorize the Palestinians everyday but it only gets reported when they actually manage to kill one or steal their property.</end quote></div>

I'm curious how you know this.

I don't just read American news.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: Narmer
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ThePresence
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Narmer
Those settlers in the West Bank terrorize the Palestinians everyday but it only gets reported when they actually manage to kill one or steal their property.</end quote></div>

I'm curious how you know this.</end quote></div>

I don't just read American news.

Neither do I.
But I don't just take everything I read as gospel truth either. I recognize the agendas and take it for what it's worth. And having spent time in West Bank settlements I can say that your earlier statement is pure bunk. I also find it strange how you classify all settlers as one type. "Those settlers in the West Bank". I doubt you were ever there, but if you were you'd see many different kinds of people with different ideologies.

 

[imported_dna]

Originally posted by: Narmer
I don't just read American news.

Cool, I guess that made you omniscient as you haven't pointed to anything else you read.

EDIT
You no doubt don't read other news as well, where you learn of kidnap attempts or drive by shootings. So perhaps it be wise for you not to act so smug and all knowing regarding friction between the jews and palestinians in the west bank.

Originally posted by: Narmer
Those settlers in the West Bank terrorize the Palestinians everyday but it only gets reported when they actually manage to kill one or steal their property. Those are your friends.

Funny how you jumped from talking about a jew who was supposedly going to kill other jews, to talking about settlers and palestinians.

Is this your idea of a smooth segue?

 

[Narmer]

Originally posted by: ThePresence
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Narmer
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ThePresence
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Narmer
Those settlers in the West Bank terrorize the Palestinians everyday but it only gets reported when they actually manage to kill one or steal their property.</end quote></div>

I'm curious how you know this.</end quote></div>

I don't just read American news.</end quote></div>

Neither do I.
But I don't just take everything I read as gospel truth either. I recognize the agendas and take it for what it's worth. And having spent time in West Bank settlements I can say that your earlier statement is pure bunk. I also find it strange how you classify all settlers as one type. "Those settlers in the West Bank". I doubt you were ever there, but if you were you'd see many different kinds of people with different ideologies.

Different ideologies?:laugh: Man, please. They are SETTLERS. That's been out of fashion for nearly half a century.

 

[dmens]

Originally posted by: Narmer
Different ideologies?:laugh: Man, please. They are SETTLERS. That's been out of fashion for nearly half a century.

Here's a list of Israeli victims of muslim terrorists:

A substantial portion of them occurred in settlements.

What really should be out of fashion is the whining muslim, they've been griping for 5 decades about land they never even owned.