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Jewish "bomber" seized before Jerusalem gay parade

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Originally posted by: JD50
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: eskimospy
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: her209
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: firewall
Yeah, he's just another terrorist using homicide bombs as a mean to forward his agenda.</end quote></div>Fixed.</end quote></div>

Homicide bombing is one of the stupidest terms the White House/FOX News has ever dreamed up. I've seen headlines on FOX that say things like "four killed in homicide bombing". Thanks guys, way to clear that up. What do you think the bombs are supposed to do?

Is it really necessary to explain that bombs kill people? If so, I think we should let Al-Qaeda be for the time being and concentrate on our elementary school reading programs, because soon far more people will be getting killed by not being able to read the instructions on their toaster then Al-Qaeda could ever hope to match. (Note: the school thing might be a good idea anyway)</end quote></div>


Do you also have a problem when the term murder-suicide is used to describe an incident when someone kills a bunch of people then commits suicide, or should that just be called a suicide as well? Suicide bomber is a perfect description for someone that kills themself with a bomb, but doesn't kill anyone else. Homicide bomber is a much better description for someone that kills other people as well as themself with a bomb. Why do some of you get so worked up over the term homicide bomber and not other things that include the term homicide?

How about calling them a murder-suicide bomber, would that help you sleep better at night?

Well, if we're getting into semantics and trying to communicate as clearly as possible, "homicide bomber" is redundant, while "suicide bomber" adds additional descriptive information. The common word, bomber, all by itself does a pretty good job of describing someone who detonates a bomb with the intention of destroying lives and/or property...NOBODY hears the phrase "bomber" and thinks it means something else. "Suicide" in front of the word "bomber" would then mean someone who commits suicide in the process of being a bomber. It is clear from sentence construction and usage that the word "suicide" modifies the word "bomber" and not the other way around.

"Homicide bomber", by contrast, is a perfectly good phrase to describe something else...someone who commits murder using a bomb. Someone can be a bomber and not kill themselves or anyone else, but if they are a HOMICIDE bomber, that means they kill people in the process of bombing whatever it is they were trying to bomb.

So it would appear that both phrases are right, a "suicide bomber" could be someone who bombs something, killing themselves but nobody else, while a "homicide bomber" could be someone who kills others (but not themselves) with a bomb. When the two overlap (both the bomber and others are killed), either would be semantically correct.

But of course this isn't just about dry usage of words deprived of context. Almost every rendition of a "bomber" story involves a death toll, making "homicide" either an inaccurate or redundant word. "Suicide", however, describes the METHOD of bombing used, making it a very important piece of the story. And suicide bombers rarely survive their attacks, whether or not anyone else is killed, "suicide bomber" is probably an accurate way to describe their methods.

Arguing over semantics seems silly, probably because that's not what this is really all about. The main complaint is that "suicide bomber" was the accepted phrase for a long time, there wasn't really anything wrong with it, except that some folks felt it didn't convey the proper attitude towards terrorism...so they opted for a less accurate phrase to make sure everyone knew where they stood on the issue. Please don't insult our intelligence and suggest that the motive of the White House and Fox News was to better inform, it was all about twisting language to make sure that the proper attitude gets conveyed, and to hell with accuracy.
 
Originally posted by: Rainsford
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JD50
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: eskimospy
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: her209
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: firewall
Yeah, he's just another terrorist using homicide bombs as a mean to forward his agenda.</end quote></div>Fixed.</end quote></div>

Homicide bombing is one of the stupidest terms the White House/FOX News has ever dreamed up. I've seen headlines on FOX that say things like "four killed in homicide bombing". Thanks guys, way to clear that up. What do you think the bombs are supposed to do?

Is it really necessary to explain that bombs kill people? If so, I think we should let Al-Qaeda be for the time being and concentrate on our elementary school reading programs, because soon far more people will be getting killed by not being able to read the instructions on their toaster then Al-Qaeda could ever hope to match. (Note: the school thing might be a good idea anyway)</end quote></div>


Do you also have a problem when the term murder-suicide is used to describe an incident when someone kills a bunch of people then commits suicide, or should that just be called a suicide as well? Suicide bomber is a perfect description for someone that kills themself with a bomb, but doesn't kill anyone else. Homicide bomber is a much better description for someone that kills other people as well as themself with a bomb. Why do some of you get so worked up over the term homicide bomber and not other things that include the term homicide?

How about calling them a murder-suicide bomber, would that help you sleep better at night?
</end quote></div>

Well, if we're getting into semantics and trying to communicate as clearly as possible, "homicide bomber" is redundant, while "suicide bomber" adds additional descriptive information. The common word, bomber, all by itself does a pretty good job of describing someone who detonates a bomb with the intention of destroying lives and/or property...NOBODY hears the phrase "bomber" and thinks it means something else. "Suicide" in front of the word "bomber" would then mean someone who commits suicide in the process of being a bomber. It is clear from sentence construction and usage that the word "suicide" modifies the word "bomber" and not the other way around.

"Homicide bomber", by contrast, is a perfectly good phrase to describe something else...someone who commits murder using a bomb. Someone can be a bomber and not kill themselves or anyone else, but if they are a HOMICIDE bomber, that means they kill people in the process of bombing whatever it is they were trying to bomb.

So it would appear that both phrases are right, a "suicide bomber" could be someone who bombs something, killing themselves but nobody else, while a "homicide bomber" could be someone who kills others (but not themselves) with a bomb. When the two overlap (both the bomber and others are killed), either would be semantically correct.

But of course this isn't just about dry usage of words deprived of context. Almost every rendition of a "bomber" story involves a death toll, making "homicide" either an inaccurate or redundant word. "Suicide", however, describes the METHOD of bombing used, making it a very important piece of the story. And suicide bombers rarely survive their attacks, whether or not anyone else is killed, "suicide bomber" is probably an accurate way to describe their methods.

Arguing over semantics seems silly, probably because that's not what this is really all about. The main complaint is that "suicide bomber" was the accepted phrase for a long time, there wasn't really anything wrong with it, except that some folks felt it didn't convey the proper attitude towards terrorism...so they opted for a less accurate phrase to make sure everyone knew where they stood on the issue. Please don't insult our intelligence and suggest that the motive of the White House and Fox News was to better inform, it was all about twisting language to make sure that the proper attitude gets conveyed, and to hell with accuracy.

So basically you guys have a problem with the term because you all have some weird obsession with Fox News, I figured as much but thanks for clearing that up for me. BTW I don't see the need to change it from Suicide bomber to homicide bomber either, but I think its pretty silly how worked up some people get over it just because it came from the evil Fox News Channel.
 
Originally posted by: Czar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JD50
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: eskimospy
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: her209
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: firewall
Yeah, he's just another terrorist using homicide bombs as a mean to forward his agenda.</end quote></div>Fixed.</end quote></div>

Homicide bombing is one of the stupidest terms the White House/FOX News has ever dreamed up. I've seen headlines on FOX that say things like "four killed in homicide bombing". Thanks guys, way to clear that up. What do you think the bombs are supposed to do?

Is it really necessary to explain that bombs kill people? If so, I think we should let Al-Qaeda be for the time being and concentrate on our elementary school reading programs, because soon far more people will be getting killed by not being able to read the instructions on their toaster then Al-Qaeda could ever hope to match. (Note: the school thing might be a good idea anyway)</end quote></div>


Do you also have a problem when the term murder-suicide is used to describe an incident when someone kills a bunch of people then commits suicide, or should that just be called a suicide as well? Suicide bomber is a perfect description for someone that kills themself with a bomb, but doesn't kill anyone else. Homicide bomber is a much better description for someone that kills other people as well as themself with a bomb. Why do some of you get so worked up over the term homicide bomber and not other things that include the term homicide?

How about calling them a murder-suicide bomber, would that help you sleep better at night?
</end quote></div>

Tell me, why was the term homocide bomber used ih in the first place? was the word suicide bomber not good enough?


but anyways, lets go to wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S....22Homicide_bombing.22

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Some effort has been made to replace the term suicide bombing with the term homicide bombing. The first such use was by White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer in April 2002.[44] The Fox News Channel and the New York Post, both owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation, are two media organizations that have adopted the term. Fox News began using the term after it was suggested by former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu during an interview.</end quote></div>


Don't all terms have to originate somewhere? Whats your point?
 
Originally posted by: JD50
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Czar
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: JD50
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: eskimospy
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: her209
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: firewall
Yeah, he's just another terrorist using homicide bombs as a mean to forward his agenda.</end quote></div>Fixed.</end quote></div>

Homicide bombing is one of the stupidest terms the White House/FOX News has ever dreamed up. I've seen headlines on FOX that say things like "four killed in homicide bombing". Thanks guys, way to clear that up. What do you think the bombs are supposed to do?

Is it really necessary to explain that bombs kill people? If so, I think we should let Al-Qaeda be for the time being and concentrate on our elementary school reading programs, because soon far more people will be getting killed by not being able to read the instructions on their toaster then Al-Qaeda could ever hope to match. (Note: the school thing might be a good idea anyway)</end quote></div>


Do you also have a problem when the term murder-suicide is used to describe an incident when someone kills a bunch of people then commits suicide, or should that just be called a suicide as well? Suicide bomber is a perfect description for someone that kills themself with a bomb, but doesn't kill anyone else. Homicide bomber is a much better description for someone that kills other people as well as themself with a bomb. Why do some of you get so worked up over the term homicide bomber and not other things that include the term homicide?

How about calling them a murder-suicide bomber, would that help you sleep better at night?
</end quote></div>

Tell me, why was the term homocide bomber used ih in the first place? was the word suicide bomber not good enough?


but anyways, lets go to wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S....22Homicide_bombing.22

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Some effort has been made to replace the term suicide bombing with the term homicide bombing. The first such use was by White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer in April 2002.[44] The Fox News Channel and the New York Post, both owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation, are two media organizations that have adopted the term. Fox News began using the term after it was suggested by former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu during an interview.</end quote></div>
</end quote></div>


Don't all terms have to originate somewhere? Whats your point?

I think the point is that the motives of Fox News and the Whitehouse are extremely suspect. Virtually all "new" language coming from either of those groups seems to be designed to mislead and confuse, not to better inform. Outside of a certain group, those two organizations have pretty much zero credibility. Now if a broad range of terrorism analysts of all political stripes suddenly started using that phrase, I'd say it might have a little merit. But when two organizations that seem dedicated to manipulating the public do so, you'll forgive us if we're a little suspicious.
 
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: dna
So Narmer, calling a Palestinian suicide-bomber out to kill Jews a terrorist, while not calling an Orthodox Jew supposedly out to kill Jews a terrorist is double standards?

Seriously, you have to remeber the context in which you make your argument.</end quote></div>

And there are muslims killing muslims in Iraq and throughout the middle east for political reasons, how is this situation in Jerusalem different from them? There is no difference because the killings are politically motivated. If you think Jews killing Jews for political reasons shouldn't be called terrorism then your mind is seriously warped.
 
Wow, you just don't get it: the context of his remark is the the Israeli-Palestinian conlict.

Besides, Narmer is the last person to with a right to comment about hypocrisy and terrorism -- you should read his past remarks.
 
Originally posted by: dna
Wow, you just don't get it: the context of his remark is the the Israeli-Palestinian conlict.

Besides, Narmer is the last person to with a right to comment about hypocrisy and terrorism -- you should read his past remarks.


This is what he wrote:
Originally posted by: Narmer
I didn't see one word relating to terrorism in that article. He's obviously there to terrorize the gays in that march, not to kill them all. Double standard anyone?

He's not talking about Israeli-Palestinian anything. Perhaps that is what you see. His specific reference was to the Jewish person terrorizing a bunch of homosexuals on their day. The double standard comes clearly from the fact that everytime a Muslim person does something he is a terrorist but for a Jewish, it isn't. That's where the double standard is.
 
HILARIOUS.


We have an entire thread on anandtech devotes to one jewish terrorist, but zero threads devoted to the daily border attacks Israel has.


Contrary to popular opinion, Israel has a very high success rate in border control. The vast majority of attacks are suppressed without casulties. People can't seem to grasp this, cause all they see is Israel and a bunch of dead palastinian's.


Israel hasm on average, 3 suicide bombers attempting to enter the country every day. You don't see that on national news.

 
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
HILARIOUS.


We have an entire thread on anandtech devotes to one jewish terrorist, but zero threads devoted to the daily border attacks Israel has.


Contrary to popular opinion, Israel has a very high success rate in border control. The vast majority of attacks are suppressed without casulties. People can't seem to grasp this, cause all they see is Israel and a bunch of dead palastinian's.


Israel hasm on average, 3 suicide bombers attempting to enter the country every day. You don't see that on national news.

Riiight. And what you don't see in the news are the Jews that terrorize the Palestinians in the territories. They are allowed to walk around freely, picking off Palestinians and taking their land. The fact that it isn't reported isn't hilarious, it's sad.
 
Originally posted by: Dari
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Noobtastic
HILARIOUS.


We have an entire thread on anandtech devotes to one jewish terrorist, but zero threads devoted to the daily border attacks Israel has.


Contrary to popular opinion, Israel has a very high success rate in border control. The vast majority of attacks are suppressed without casulties. People can't seem to grasp this, cause all they see is Israel and a bunch of dead palastinian's.


Israel hasm on average, 3 suicide bombers attempting to enter the country every day. You don't see that on national news.

</end quote></div>

Riiight. And what you don't see in the news are the Jews that terrorize the Palestinians in the territories. They are allowed to walk around freely, picking off Palestinians and taking their land. The fact that it isn't reported isn't hilarious, it's sad.


*sigh*


Lest you forget, THE ARABS RUN THE PALASTINIAN CAMPS.


They infect the populous with jihad and watch the angry mob throw rockets at Israel.


What do you mean taking palastinian land? You clearly aren't familiar with the British mandate or UN partions. Get your history right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_UN_Partition_Plan

 
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
HILARIOUS.


We have an entire thread on anandtech devotes to one jewish terrorist, but zero threads devoted to the daily border attacks Israel has.


Contrary to popular opinion, Israel has a very high success rate in border control. The vast majority of attacks are suppressed without casulties. People can't seem to grasp this, cause all they see is Israel and a bunch of dead palastinian's.


Israel hasm on average, 3 suicide bombers attempting to enter the country every day. You don't see that on national news.

Yeah, finding a thread about Muslim terrorists is pretty difficult here :roll:
 
Originally posted by: Dari
He's not talking about Israeli-Palestinian anything. Perhaps that is what you see. His specific reference was to the Jewish person terrorizing a bunch of homosexuals on their day. The double standard comes clearly from the fact that everytime a Muslim person does something he is a terrorist but for a Jewish, it isn't. That's where the double standard is.
Narmer doesn't comment on something that happens in Israel in regards to what is going on in Iraq or in Darfur; you're dreaming if you think otherwise.

Also notice how quiet he has been about this.
 

Yeah, finding a thread about Muslim terrorists is pretty difficult here

There should be more. The thread/muslim terrorist is way below thread/jewish terrorist.


Less than a fraction of all suicide attacks against Israel are reported. You want to know why? The majority of them don't make it past the first sandbag before being moaned down by patrols and tanks. It's only when a poor, innocent, non-violent palastinian gets blown to bits because of brother jama and his crew of brethen taking refuge in the family house.



"If it bleeds, it leads....unless their Jews." 😀










 
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: dna
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Dari
He's not talking about Israeli-Palestinian anything. Perhaps that is what you see. His specific reference was to the Jewish person terrorizing a bunch of homosexuals on their day. The double standard comes clearly from the fact that everytime a Muslim person does something he is a terrorist but for a Jewish, it isn't. That's where the double standard is.</end quote></div>
Narmer doesn't comment on something that happens in Israel in regards to what is going on in Iraq or in Darfur; you're dreaming if you think otherwise.

Also notice how quiet he has been about this.</end quote></div>

Nope, I've been busy lately. Besides, I enjoy watching others prove you wrong. Me carrying the burden is tiresome. As others have said, you are clearly grasping at straws and prove your extreme bias.

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Yeah, finding a thread about Muslim terrorists is pretty difficult here </end quote></div>

There should be more. The thread/muslim terrorist is way below thread/jewish terrorist.


Less than a fraction of all suicide attacks against Israel are reported. You want to know why? The majority of them don't make it past the first sandbag before being moaned down by patrols and tanks. It's only when a poor, innocent, non-violent palastinian gets blown to bits because of brother jama and his crew of brethen taking refuge in the family house.



"If it bleeds, it leads....unless their Jews." 😀

Somehow, I think you're lying. With all the propaganda over there, any news to make the other side look bad is quickly reported and amplified.
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
Nope, I've been busy lately. Besides, I enjoy watching others prove you wrong. Me carrying the burden is tiresome. As others have said, you are clearly grasping at straws and prove your extreme bias.
Is he your sidekick, or are you merely sidestepping the matter now since we both know what you meant?

As for extreme bias, that comes as a compliment from a guy rationalizes terrorism.

Well, carry on crying foul over a single supposed bomber, caught with what could have very well been a box full of firecrackers.
 
Originally posted by: dna
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Narmer
Nope, I've been busy lately. Besides, I enjoy watching others prove you wrong. Me carrying the burden is tiresome. As others have said, you are clearly grasping at straws and prove your extreme bias.</end quote></div>
Is he your sidekick, or are you merely sidestepping the matter now since we both know what you meant?

As for extreme bias, that comes as a compliment from a guy rationalizes terrorism.

Well, carry on crying foul over a single supposed bomber, caught with what could have very well been a box full of firecrackers.

Unless you're the girl I'm phvking (Baby, is that you?), you don't know what I meant. It's useless arguing with you since you've got your head so far up the Israelis' ass you can't see straight. A box of firecrackers:laugh: You'll say anything. Quite the sucker, aren't you?
 
It's sad you have to fatasize about people on internet forums and to make up imaginary girlfriends; however, it is not the very least bit surprising.

As for the "device", would you like to point to some elaborations on what it was?

Otherwise, it just seems like a bunch of people jumping on a story to point fingers and say "look, some jew is doing it!"; I'm sure you're no stranger to that attitude, with you attempts of moral equivalency between suicide bombings and the termination of those who plan them.
 
Originally posted by: Narmer
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: dna
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Dari
He's not talking about Israeli-Palestinian anything. Perhaps that is what you see. His specific reference was to the Jewish person terrorizing a bunch of homosexuals on their day. The double standard comes clearly from the fact that everytime a Muslim person does something he is a terrorist but for a Jewish, it isn't. That's where the double standard is.</end quote></div>
Narmer doesn't comment on something that happens in Israel in regards to what is going on in Iraq or in Darfur; you're dreaming if you think otherwise.

Also notice how quiet he has been about this.</end quote></div>

Nope, I've been busy lately. Besides, I enjoy watching others prove you wrong. Me carrying the burden is tiresome. As others have said, you are clearly grasping at straws and prove your extreme bias.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Noobtastic

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Yeah, finding a thread about Muslim terrorists is pretty difficult here </end quote></div>

There should be more. The thread/muslim terrorist is way below thread/jewish terrorist.


Less than a fraction of all suicide attacks against Israel are reported. You want to know why? The majority of them don't make it past the first sandbag before being moaned down by patrols and tanks. It's only when a poor, innocent, non-violent palastinian gets blown to bits because of brother jama and his crew of brethen taking refuge in the family house.



"If it bleeds, it leads....unless their Jews." 😀

Somehow, I think you're lying. With all the propaganda over there, any news to make the other side look bad is quickly reported and amplified.


I'm lying?

Wow, persuasive. Seriously, you should take up debate.


Go you.


 
Originally posted by: senseamp
Religion of peace in action.

If you're referring to the jews, gay rights is well established in Israel, where judaism is the state religion.

On the other hand, gays and lesbians are treated atrociously in the phantom state of "palestine", and other actual nations dominated by muslims... so if your sarcastic reference above was directed at the mohammedian, that would be much more accurate. I doubt you meant that however. :laugh:
 
Originally posted by: dna
It's sad you have to fatasize about people on internet forums and to make up imaginary girlfriends; however, it is not the very least bit surprising.

As for the "device", would you like to point to some elaborations on what it was?

Otherwise, it just seems like a bunch of people jumping on a story to point fingers and say "look, some jew is doing it!"; I'm sure you're no stranger to that attitude, with you attempts of moral equivalency between suicide bombings and the termination of those who plan them.

Where do you see me fantasing? Oh yeah, your warped mind went on a little trip again.

As for the device, if he was there to terrorize the homosexuals on their day, then the israeli police should treat him like they treat all terror suspects: shoot first and ask questions later. But they didn't and I'm not surprised.
 
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Narmer
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: dna
It's sad you have to fatasize about people on internet forums and to make up imaginary girlfriends; however, it is not the very least bit surprising.

As for the "device", would you like to point to some elaborations on what it was?

Otherwise, it just seems like a bunch of people jumping on a story to point fingers and say "look, some jew is doing it!"; I'm sure you're no stranger to that attitude, with you attempts of moral equivalency between suicide bombings and the termination of those who plan them.</end quote></div>

Where do you see me fantasing? Oh yeah, your warped mind went on a little trip again.

As for the device, if he was there to terrorize the homosexuals on their day, then the israeli police should treat him like they treat all terror suspects: shoot first and ask questions later. But they didn't and I'm not surprised.</end quote></div>



What? Since when is that the official standard to treat terror suspects?


Israel is constantly in defense mode - their internal security system is just as beefed as it's border system.


Unlike islamic countries, they don't feel it's necessary to jail and entire village because akmed told the local council that there was a jewish bomber taking refuge.


😀


edit: I'm stating the obvious here - no need to accuse "extreme bias" when you can't specify what exactly is biased and slanted.



 
Originally posted by: Narmer
As for the device, if he was there to terrorize the homosexuals on their day, then the israeli police should treat him like they treat all terror suspects: shoot first and ask questions later. But they didn't and I'm not surprised.
Thus proving what I've been saying: you're seizing on a little story, trying to make it a big deal while drawing some sort of parallels between it and organized & systematic suicide bombers. Soon you'll be telling us that this is no different than the incidents in England :roll:

Well done Narmer, well done.
 
Originally posted by: dmens
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: senseamp
Religion of peace in action.</end quote></div>

If you're referring to the jews, gay rights is well established in Israel, where judaism is the state religion.

On the other hand, gays and lesbians are treated atrociously in the phantom state of "palestine", and other actual nations dominated by muslims... so if your sarcastic reference above was directed at the mohammedian, that would be much more accurate. I doubt you meant that however. :laugh:

And yet there are violent fanatics even in places like Israel and practicing non-Muslim faiths. I might be wrong, but I think senseamp's point was that it's stupid to judge an entire religion or people whenever some violent idiot gets on the news.
 
Originally posted by: dna
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Narmer
As for the device, if he was there to terrorize the homosexuals on their day, then the israeli police should treat him like they treat all terror suspects: shoot first and ask questions later. But they didn't and I'm not surprised.</end quote></div>
Thus proving what I've been saying: you're seizing on a little story, trying to make it a big deal while drawing some sort of parallels between it and organized & systematic suicide bombers. Soon you'll be telling us that this is no different than the incidents in England :roll:

Well done Narmer, well done.

If I get killed by a terrorist, what do I care whether he was some lone psycho or had attended Osama bin Laden's terrorist training camp? Seriously, I want to know. People seem to go apeshit over Muslim terrorists because they are somewhat organized (although more in the sense of having a message board than in any serious military manner) and release scary sounding videos to al-Jazeera. But all anyone can muster when some NON-Muslim terrorist trys to kill a bunch of people is "meh".
 
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