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Jesus's middle name is Hume! Caution: Some NSFW images within!

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Except that no one celebrates or cared about Columbus except one ethnicity; only the Italian-Americans poured the resources into lobbying for some national holiday. He was just the choice of Italians to remind the racist, violent, even murderous WASP majority that they were able to do something once upon time. Italian-Americans have often masked their heritage by Anglicizing their names; it wouldn't be automatic to many people that musical titans like Steven Tyler(actually Tallarico) that they are of Italian ancestry.

Even as a holiday, it's a very soft one because a lot of non-government working people don't get a day off.

Renaming it only makes people feel better while the actual issues remain unresolved(an mental opiate of sorts), and probably with even less attention than before because having a holiday actually makes people complacent and feel something has been done when it hasn't. Federal holidays are not injunctions or bans, or programs for assistance. They just provide some education for reflection.

My random craigslist free finds wound up picking up many items from a then recently-deceased lawyer with Native American ancestry. Thus he had some literature and newspaper articles saved about essentially how these folks get fucked up and get the short end of the stick, including battling to preserve land areas where they hold importance to Native Americans.
Let's keep the sewage in the hole that was dug for it, P&N. This is the fun thread in the place where the sane people hang out, and you're spoiling it.
 
Let's keep the sewage in the hole that was dug for it, P&N. This is the fun thread in the place where the sane people hang out, and you're spoiling it.
You should direct towards the other guy in the convo.

I would not be in a parade or a protest since I belong to neither group nor do I feel like ceding anything back and going back to my ancestral country as a mea culpa.
 
Compared to P&N, OT is a bastion of clear thinking and reasoned opinions. And most of you are two cans short of a six pack.


Phew thanks ... had me worried for a second there !! 😛


I swung by P&N for an extended visit around 2020 election/aftermath-time and (in retrospect) it was a huge mistake... that place can be downright unhealthy!

I actually stopped posting on on a couple other forums entirely due to the toxic atmosphere/BS putting me in a 24/7 crappy mood.

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