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runzwithsizorz

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I was looking for a trench, too, but didn't see one; I honestly don't remember if there was one on the throw-side at Leonard Wood, but I do remember the block divider that the DI was going to throw me over/into if I pussy-threw the grenade. And all of this was under full-on Uber scrutiny by the DI's and range officer... moreso, even, than any other range we did. Grenades are nothing to screw around with.

I still don't think the grenade in the OP was a full-on frag grenade... the blast isn't consistent.

Did basic at Fort Ord, and in my day the DI's could still hit you. We practiced with dummy grenades first. On my first throw, I peeked over the sand bags to see how far it went. A hard swift kick to the side of my helmet taught me never to do that again! The blast radius of a frag is about what you can throw one. (Try throwing a brick more than 50 feet.)
 

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phucheneh

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Did basic at Fort Ord, and in my day the DI's could still hit you. We practiced with dummy grenades first. On my first throw, I peeked over the sand bags to see how far it went. A hard swift kick to the side of my helmet taught me never to do that again! The blast radius of a frag is about what you can throw one. (Try throwing a brick more than 50 feet.)

They couldn't hit us, but they kinda had their ways. Funnily enough, it was often via the same protective policies that kept them from hitting us. I saw tackles at the grenade range (for looking). Nobody dropped; I wasn't in co-ed training.:whiste:

But one thing that comes to mind is being patted down for ammo after using the rifle range...rifles get locked in the armory, and you basically don't touch a live round unless you're one of the guys loading mags*. So a 'pat-down' basically started with the DS punching you in the chest with both hands.:p It was kinda of a joking thing when they would go down the line roughing everybody up; but when they really wanted to give it to somebody, it was obvious and the stifled giggles would stop.

*Funny story I like to mention about the one time I got stuck on mag detail...it was a night fire exercise, AND it was for suppressive fire- actually got to use the burst setting on our M16A4's. We ran out of crates of regular ball ammo, but still had tracers, so instead of one tracer every five rounds, we were loading mags with 30 tracers. So as we get down to the end of the supply of mags with the sun all the way down, all of a sudden it happens to go from everyone on the line having a normal mag to everyone having a tracer mag...and then HOLY SHIT I'M IN STAR WARS, THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME. :awe:
 

Charlie98

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*Funny story I like to mention about the one time I got stuck on mag detail...it was a night fire exercise, AND it was for suppressive fire- actually got to use the burst setting on our M16A4's. We ran out of crates of regular ball ammo, but still had tracers, so instead of one tracer every five rounds, we were loading mags with 30 tracers. So as we get down to the end of the supply of mags with the sun all the way down, all of a sudden it happens to go from everyone on the line having a normal mag to everyone having a tracer mag...and then HOLY SHIT I'M IN STAR WARS, THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME. :awe:

When I was at Leonard Wood in '86 that was the 'interlocking fields of fire' range... 3x 30rd tracers at night! I had mag detail that day and I kept pulling mags out for having bad feed lips and the range sergeant just told me to load 'em anyway... so I did. Of course, the second mag I locked was one of the bad ones and it puked all it's rounds and jammed my -A1. But it sure was badass watching all those tracers...
 

phucheneh

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You were actually supposed to shoot full tracer mags? Damn.

I went to BCT in '04, though, so it kinda makes sense...they weren't willing to 'waste' supplies as people were gearing up for Iraq. We threw a grand total of one live grenade. Lit one little chunk of C4. Got to witness one claymore, one AT4, even just one M203 round (but used lots of trainer stuff). And yeah, our mags were trash, too. Most of the problems were with our rifles, though- our 'cleaning kits' didn't even give us anything to clean the gas tube properly with.

The neat (and kinda scary) part about the tracers, though, was seeing what happened to all the rounds that went downrange. We were basically shooting at a hill with little wooden bunkers. The rounds bounced everywhere, which is what really led to the 'jesus christ laser beams are flying in every direction' effect. You could kind of imagine stormtroopers with really bad aim were firing back at you. :awe: /nerd
 

Broheim

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another neat thing about tracers are that they so easily get small brushfires going, which is a freaking godsend on those freezing danish nights in the autumn or spring. You'd take your sweetass time putting that shit out with those retarded metal-broom-thingies.
 

Charlie98

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You were actually supposed to shoot full tracer mags? Damn.

I went to BCT in '04, though, so it kinda makes sense...they weren't willing to 'waste' supplies as people were gearing up for Iraq. We threw a grand total of one live grenade. Lit one little chunk of C4. Got to witness one claymore, one AT4, even just one M203 round (but used lots of trainer stuff). And yeah, our mags were trash, too. Most of the problems were with our rifles, though- our 'cleaning kits' didn't even give us anything to clean the gas tube properly with.

The neat (and kinda scary) part about the tracers, though, was seeing what happened to all the rounds that went downrange. We were basically shooting at a hill with little wooden bunkers. The rounds bounced everywhere, which is what really led to the 'jesus christ laser beams are flying in every direction' effect. You could kind of imagine stormtroopers with really bad aim were firing back at you. :awe: /nerd

Naaa... about the same with us. 2 grenades, 1 Claymore demo, 1 M203 paint round (no live rounds,) but they did give us plenty of crap to clean our M16's with... an endless cycle it seemed. Our DI's took pity on us and we all chipped in for a case of carburetor cleaner to clean the carbon out at final turn-in... :sneaky:

The final range was the infiltration course where they set off the gas mortars and fired the M60's over our heads. I got brass pickup detail up in one of the towers and was AMAZED (and pretty damned concerned) at the ricocheting tracers flying all over the place!!! The gun I was on was aimed at a tree about 250M downrange and it was just packed with bullets... hence the ricochets. I'm going to say the guns were about 30' over the range, but it sure seemed a lot closer when you are belly crawling under fire!!! o_O