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vertically orienting the burger will cause contents to slide unless tightly packed. will need a revision.
 
Charlie98

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jagec said:
Uhh..so?
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Uhh, OK. Anytime you go to the range you have your gear, to include a steel pot (when I was in) or, nowadays, a Kevlar helmet. Usually you have your load-bearing equipment on (in my days it was called the LBE, I don't know what they call it now.) Rifle qualification, map reading, grenades, M60, lunch.... anything... you had your gear on.

After watching it a few more times I'm thinking more and more it's staged... the guy on the right... if he reallllly knew that was a frag grenade he sure as shit wouldn't be sticking his head up like he was. Other thing is, a true M67 frag grenade would have taken out part of that sandbag wall... it's not a firecracker.
 
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Charlie98 said:
Uhh, OK. Anytime you go to the range you have your gear, to include a steel pot (when I was in)
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You weren't in China were you? There are several different Chinese grenade fail videos on youtube. They are all wearing caps.

After watching it a few more times I'm thinking more and more it's staged... the guy on the right... if he reallllly knew that was a frag grenade he sure as shit wouldn't be sticking his head up like he was. Other thing is, a true M67 frag grenade would have taken out part of that sandbag wall... it's not a firecracker.
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People do stupid things.

I'm guessing they don't use the M67 grenade in China.
 
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BladeVenom said:
You weren't in China were you? There are several different Chinese grenade fail videos on youtube. They are all wearing caps.



People do stupid things.

I'm guessing they don't use the M67 grenade in China.
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China? Well, here's to hoping that's how the Chinese train their military!!! :biggrin:
 
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Charlie98 said:
Uhh, OK. Anytime you go to the range you have your gear, to include a steel pot (when I was in) or, nowadays, a Kevlar helmet. Usually you have your load-bearing equipment on (in my days it was called the LBE, I don't know what they call it now.) Rifle qualification, map reading, grenades, M60, lunch.... anything... you had your gear on.

After watching it a few more times I'm thinking more and more it's staged... the guy on the right... if he reallllly knew that was a frag grenade he sure as shit wouldn't be sticking his head up like he was. Other thing is, a true M67 frag grenade would have taken out part of that sandbag wall... it's not a firecracker.
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Is it possible it's some kind of training grenade? I mean it still made a big bang, but I have my doubts that someone would hand a deadly grenade to someone who can't throw anything but a worm burner.

And they'd probably still run from it regardless. Can't feel good either way.
 
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Balt said:
Is it possible it's some kind of training grenade? I mean it still made a big bang, but I have my doubts that someone would hand a deadly grenade to someone who can't throw anything but a worm burner.

And they'd probably still run from it regardless. Can't feel good either way.
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If it's a full power grenade, it fails, I would say on my first look. The sandbags aren't even disturbed. A grenade that close would, at the very least, rip them up (the bags). More than likely, the concussion would be enough to make the bags 'jump' if not blow some of them out of place completely.

BUT- The camera is probably pretty far away, and that's a fairly tight frame. So I think it's just a telephoto lens dicking with things; the further you zoom, the closer objects in the foreground/background seem to be to each other. That also explain why it looks like she threw the grenade, to some extent, but it landed at her feet...the sandbag wall is way further away than it looks (or should be). So the blast is totally in open air.


Now, with regards to US Army training, if anyone gives a shit:

You stand directly behind a concrete wall. You take a well-practiced 'quarterback' stance, pull the pin, and throw- which is to say, you push it away from you rather than arcing your arm. If the grenade falls, it hits the sloped floor and rolls into a vertical chute in the middle, which directs the blast directly upward. While this is happening, the drill sergeant tackles the fuck out of you to get you away from the blast...and punish your stupidity with a face full of concrete.

China (or whoever) is obviously lacking this 'hole in the ground' technology. Also, FWIW (last thing, I know, Hume thread, too much detail), grenades are HARD to throw far. It's shaped kinda like a baseball, yeah, but you can't grip it the same while holding the spoon, and it's about three times as heavy. I felt like a total pussy.

However, the drill sergeants, who didn't give a fuck about form, were throwing them over the range and into the treeline. :awe:
 
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phucheneh said:
If it's a full power grenade, it fails, I would say on my first look. The sandbags aren't even disturbed. A grenade that close would, at the very least, rip them up (the bags). More than likely, the concussion would be enough to make the bags 'jump' if not blow some of them out of place completely.

BUT- The camera is probably pretty far away, and that's a fairly tight frame. So I think it's just a telephoto lens dicking with things; the further you zoom, the closer objects in the foreground/background seem to be to each other. That also explain why it looks like she threw the grenade, to some extent, but it landed at her feet...the sandbag wall is way further away than it looks (or should be). So the blast is totally in open air.


Now, with regards to US Army training, if anyone gives a shit:

You stand directly behind a concrete wall. You take a well-practiced 'quarterback' stance, pull the pin, and throw- which is to say, you push it away from you rather than arcing your arm. If the grenade falls, it hits the sloped floor and rolls into a vertical chute in the middle, which directs the blast directly upward. While this is happening, the drill sergeant tackles the fuck out of you to get you away from the blast...and punish your stupidity with a face full of concrete.

China (or whoever) is obviously lacking this 'hole in the ground' technology. Also, FWIW (last thing, I know, Hume thread, too much detail), grenades are HARD to throw far. It's shaped kinda like a baseball, yeah, but you can't grip it the same while holding the spoon, and it's about three times as heavy. I felt like a total pussy.

However, the drill sergeants, who didn't give a fuck about form, were throwing them over the range and into the treeline. :awe:
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I was looking for a trench, too, but didn't see one; I honestly don't remember if there was one on the throw-side at Leonard Wood, but I do remember the block divider that the DI was going to throw me over/into if I pussy-threw the grenade. And all of this was under full-on Uber scrutiny by the DI's and range officer... moreso, even, than any other range we did. Grenades are nothing to screw around with.

I still don't think the grenade in the OP was a full-on frag grenade... the blast isn't consistent.
 
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