Jesse Jackson Jr. is Candidate Number 5

[Dari]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW One of the big unions looks to be involved in this. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Would be great to see a judge kick out the union leadership and put them under the federal eye ala the Teamsters and also ban them from political contributions for set number of years.

Coming from a Republican, your sig is pretty stupid. The Clinton years were a period of peace and prosperity.

They were also full of scandals... Obama is just getting a head start.

BTW Nothing Clinton did had any lasting effect, outside of Kosovo. And I mean NOTHING.
Surplus was gone in less than two years. All that peace was just an illusion, Islamic radicals were waging war against us and we just ignored them till 9-11. His economic miracle was based on the tech bubble that burst as he was leaving office.

Over all they were good years, but as even Obama said, Clinton did nothing to change the trajectory of the country. Look at how everyone is talking about the 'Reagan era' coming to an end. No one will ever talk about the 'Clinton era.'

BTW2 the sig is based on Obama picking all the Clinton people. Obama promised 'change' and instead we are getting retreads.

Man, you are stupid.

Actually he does not come across as a stupid person, just some one who is blinkered and/or blinded by his partisanship which seems to bypass his logical circuits.

For e.g., the surplus was built up over Clintons presidency and, yes, was gone in 2 years. But he conveniently forget how and why it went in less than 2 years. His President gave away some of it (to 'his base'?) and squandered the rest and then proceeded to squander away any future money in the country as well.

Surpluses that could only be sustained if you ignore the recession that Clinton dumped onto Bush's lap.

That was the point of a surplus: money for a rainy day. Wasting it on tax cut for the rich and useless wars made no sense.

 

[Lemon law]

Well maybe silly me, but I thought the general subject of this thread is and remains Blogoevich trying to sell the Obama Senate seat to the highest bidder and if Jesse Jackson Jr. was one of the bidders.

But if we are going to compare the GWB administration to the Obama administration regarding political corruption, there is no comparison because the GWB administration was corrupt top to bottom.

And if we take away the Bill Clinton weakness of not being able to keep his rocket in his pocket, Clinton ran the most scandal free administration in the past 90 years.

But to his credit, as far as I know, GWB can keep his rocket in his pocket and is faithful to Laura. In all other things, he is a totally corrupt and dishonest. Add in incompetent in the extreme and we can understand why the economy is collapsing as GWB almost doubled our national debt eight short years.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I think we're starting to see the clear pattern of Democrat Party corruption.

Awesoem.

I hope there is a whole lot more to the point you and your buds can't stand it and leave.

:thumbsup:

Four years ago it was nothing but dems saying that because Bush was elected. Four years later it's nothing but dems saying it again... this time about republicans, and not because republicans have said it.

STFU you partisan whackjob.

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Corbett
Seems Jackson's lawyer has fingered him as being candidate number 5.

Jackson claims he has done nothing wrong.

I guess we'll see where this goes and see if candidate number five really did offer the Illinois Governor money for the senate seat.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/...oming/Story?id=6431739

in Jessie's news conference, he said he didnt INITIALIZE with the Gov for Pay for Play senate seat.

alarm bells ring as this douns like Clinton parsing of words.

ok, he didnt initialize, but that doesnt mean he didnt speak to the Gov.
The Gov could have been the one that initiatewd the conversation.

Who else thinks Jessie's guily?
and he'll be a washed up politiian, like his father?

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: JEDI

in Jessie's news conference, he said he didnt INITIALIZE with the Gov for Pay for Play senate seat.

alarm bells ring as this douns like Clinton parsing of words.

ok, he didnt initialize, but that doesnt mean he didnt speak to the Gov.
The Gov could have been the one that initiatewd the conversation.

Puhlee-e-e-eze. Assuming Blagojevich made the first contact, Jackson's already a liberal Democratic Congressman, he's the son of a high profile political civil rights figure and a whole lot more that would make him a good candidate for Obama's Senate seat.

Assuming Blagojevich had the best or the worst possible motives, it wouldn't be unusual if he contacted Jackson. The questions is what Jackson said and did in response to any suggested illegal activities by Blagojevich.

Who else thinks Jessie's guily?
and he'll be a washed up politiian, like his father?

Who else thinks JEDI is a bit premature in his rush to judgment? :roll:

Try again when you have some hard evidence. Fitzgerald's a tough prosecutor and investigator. If it's true, I'll be there with you calling for him to go.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I think we're starting to see the clear pattern of Democrat Party corruption.

Awesoem.

I hope there is a whole lot more to the point you and your buds can't stand it and leave.

:thumbsup:

Dave,

What is your new obsession with wanting republicans to "leave if you dont like it" all about?

Its such a pathetic and immature thing to say ans shows just how much of a partisan kook hack you really are.

Oh the ironing!

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW One of the big unions looks to be involved in this. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Would be great to see a judge kick out the union leadership and put them under the federal eye ala the Teamsters and also ban them from political contributions for set number of years.

Coming from a Republican, your sig is pretty stupid. The Clinton years were a period of peace and prosperity.

They were also full of scandals... Obama is just getting a head start.

BTW Nothing Clinton did had any lasting effect, outside of Kosovo. And I mean NOTHING.
Surplus was gone in less than two years. All that peace was just an illusion, Islamic radicals were waging war against us and we just ignored them till 9-11. His economic miracle was based on the tech bubble that burst as he was leaving office.

Over all they were good years, but as even Obama said, Clinton did nothing to change the trajectory of the country. Look at how everyone is talking about the 'Reagan era' coming to an end. No one will ever talk about the 'Clinton era.'

BTW2 the sig is based on Obama picking all the Clinton people. Obama promised 'change' and instead we are getting retreads.

Man, you are stupid.

Actually he does not come across as a stupid person, just some one who is blinkered and/or blinded by his partisanship which seems to bypass his logical circuits.

For e.g., the surplus was built up over Clintons presidency and, yes, was gone in 2 years. But he conveniently forget how and why it went in less than 2 years. His President gave away some of it (to 'his base'?) and squandered the rest and then proceeded to squander away any future money in the country as well.

Surpluses that could only be sustained if you ignore the recession that Clinton dumped onto Bush's lap.

Will you say the same for Obama? The recession this time seems like it will be much bigger.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I think we're starting to see the clear pattern of Democrat Party corruption.

Awesoem.

I hope there is a whole lot more to the point you and your buds can't stand it and leave.

:thumbsup:

Dave,

What is your new obsession with wanting republicans to "leave if you dont like it" all about?

Its such a pathetic and immature thing to say ans shows just how much of a partisan kook hack you really are.

Oh the ironing!

Oh the originality!

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: JEDI

in Jessie's news conference, he said he didnt INITIALIZE with the Gov for Pay for Play senate seat.

alarm bells ring as this douns like Clinton parsing of words.

ok, he didnt initialize, but that doesnt mean he didnt speak to the Gov.
The Gov could have been the one that initiatewd the conversation.

Puhlee-e-e-eze. Assuming Blagojevich made the first contact, Jackson's already a liberal Democratic Congressman, he's the son of a high profile political civil rights figure and a whole lot more that would make him a good candidate for Obama's Senate seat.

Assuming Blagojevich had the best or the worst possible motives, it wouldn't be unusual if he contacted Jackson. The questions is what Jackson said and did in response to any suggested illegal activities by Blagojevich.

Who else thinks Jessie's guily?
and he'll be a washed up politiian, like his father?

Who else thinks JEDI is a bit premature in his rush to judgment? :roll:

Try again when you have some hard evidence. Fitzpatrick's a tough prosecutor and investigator. If it's true, I'll be there with you calling for him to go.

Perhaps, but come on Harvey... those are some pretty carefully chosen words you have to admit.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW One of the big unions looks to be involved in this. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Would be great to see a judge kick out the union leadership and put them under the federal eye ala the Teamsters and also ban them from political contributions for set number of years.

Coming from a Republican, your sig is pretty stupid. The Clinton years were a period of peace and prosperity.

They were also full of scandals... Obama is just getting a head start.

BTW Nothing Clinton did had any lasting effect, outside of Kosovo. And I mean NOTHING.
Surplus was gone in less than two years. All that peace was just an illusion, Islamic radicals were waging war against us and we just ignored them till 9-11. His economic miracle was based on the tech bubble that burst as he was leaving office.

Over all they were good years, but as even Obama said, Clinton did nothing to change the trajectory of the country. Look at how everyone is talking about the 'Reagan era' coming to an end. No one will ever talk about the 'Clinton era.'

BTW2 the sig is based on Obama picking all the Clinton people. Obama promised 'change' and instead we are getting retreads.

WRONG!

Aren't you getting tired of this losing game you play?

Aren't you tired of posting under two different accounts?

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW One of the big unions looks to be involved in this. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Would be great to see a judge kick out the union leadership and put them under the federal eye ala the Teamsters and also ban them from political contributions for set number of years.

Coming from a Republican, your sig is pretty stupid. The Clinton years were a period of peace and prosperity.

They were also full of scandals... Obama is just getting a head start.

BTW Nothing Clinton did had any lasting effect, outside of Kosovo. And I mean NOTHING.
Surplus was gone in less than two years. All that peace was just an illusion, Islamic radicals were waging war against us and we just ignored them till 9-11. His economic miracle was based on the tech bubble that burst as he was leaving office.

Over all they were good years, but as even Obama said, Clinton did nothing to change the trajectory of the country. Look at how everyone is talking about the 'Reagan era' coming to an end. No one will ever talk about the 'Clinton era.'

BTW2 the sig is based on Obama picking all the Clinton people. Obama promised 'change' and instead we are getting retreads.

WRONG!

Aren't you getting tired of this losing game you play?

Aren't you tired of posting under two different accounts?

What are the accounts? Proof?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW One of the big unions looks to be involved in this. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Would be great to see a judge kick out the union leadership and put them under the federal eye ala the Teamsters and also ban them from political contributions for set number of years.

Coming from a Republican, your sig is pretty stupid. The Clinton years were a period of peace and prosperity.

They were also full of scandals... Obama is just getting a head start.

BTW Nothing Clinton did had any lasting effect, outside of Kosovo. And I mean NOTHING.
Surplus was gone in less than two years. All that peace was just an illusion, Islamic radicals were waging war against us and we just ignored them till 9-11. His economic miracle was based on the tech bubble that burst as he was leaving office.

Over all they were good years, but as even Obama said, Clinton did nothing to change the trajectory of the country. Look at how everyone is talking about the 'Reagan era' coming to an end. No one will ever talk about the 'Clinton era.'

BTW2 the sig is based on Obama picking all the Clinton people. Obama promised 'change' and instead we are getting retreads.

WRONG!

Aren't you getting tired of this losing game you play?

Aren't you tired of posting under two different accounts?

What are the accounts? Proof?

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2235625&enterthread=y

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: JEDI

in Jessie's news conference, he said he didnt INITIALIZE with the Gov for Pay for Play senate seat.

alarm bells ring as this douns like Clinton parsing of words.

ok, he didnt initialize, but that doesnt mean he didnt speak to the Gov.
The Gov could have been the one that initiatewd the conversation.

Puhlee-e-e-eze. Assuming Blagojevich made the first contact, Jackson's already a liberal Democratic Congressman, he's the son of a high profile political civil rights figure and a whole lot more that would make him a good candidate for Obama's Senate seat.

Assuming Blagojevich had the best or the worst possible motives, it wouldn't be unusual if he contacted Jackson. The questions is what Jackson said and did in response to any suggested illegal activities by Blagojevich.

Who else thinks Jessie's guily?
and he'll be a washed up politiian, like his father?

Who else thinks JEDI is a bit premature in his rush to judgment? :roll:

Try again when you have some hard evidence. Fitzpatrick's a tough prosecutor and investigator. If it's true, I'll be there with you calling for him to go.

Perhaps, but come on Harvey... those are some pretty carefully chosen words you have to admit.

No, Fitzgerald's remarks about Obama and Obama's own words wern't "carefully chosen." Fitzgerald very specifically said no allegations were being made that Obama was aware of any alleged scheming by Blagojevich. Obama has denied any talks took place regarding giving Blagojevich anything, and Blagojevich is on tape being pissed about that.

Jackson's remarks were more tightly "crafted," but there still is no evidence of any wrongdoing by him.

< edit >

Deleted my misunderstanding of a side issue. We now return control of your thread to you.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
BTW One of the big unions looks to be involved in this. Will be interesting to see what happens.

Would be great to see a judge kick out the union leadership and put them under the federal eye ala the Teamsters and also ban them from political contributions for set number of years.

Coming from a Republican, your sig is pretty stupid. The Clinton years were a period of peace and prosperity.

They were also full of scandals... Obama is just getting a head start.

BTW Nothing Clinton did had any lasting effect, outside of Kosovo. And I mean NOTHING.
Surplus was gone in less than two years. All that peace was just an illusion, Islamic radicals were waging war against us and we just ignored them till 9-11. His economic miracle was based on the tech bubble that burst as he was leaving office.

Over all they were good years, but as even Obama said, Clinton did nothing to change the trajectory of the country. Look at how everyone is talking about the 'Reagan era' coming to an end. No one will ever talk about the 'Clinton era.'

BTW2 the sig is based on Obama picking all the Clinton people. Obama promised 'change' and instead we are getting retreads.

WRONG!

Aren't you getting tired of this losing game you play?

Aren't you tired of posting under two different accounts?

Owned

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: JEDI

in Jessie's news conference, he said he didnt INITIALIZE with the Gov for Pay for Play senate seat.

alarm bells ring as this douns like Clinton parsing of words.

ok, he didnt initialize, but that doesnt mean he didnt speak to the Gov.
The Gov could have been the one that initiatewd the conversation.

Puhlee-e-e-eze. Assuming Blagojevich made the first contact, Jackson's already a liberal Democratic Congressman, he's the son of a high profile political civil rights figure and a whole lot more that would make him a good candidate for Obama's Senate seat.

Assuming Blagojevich had the best or the worst possible motives, it wouldn't be unusual if he contacted Jackson. The questions is what Jackson said and did in response to any suggested illegal activities by Blagojevich.

Who else thinks Jessie's guily?
and he'll be a washed up politiian, like his father?

Who else thinks JEDI is a bit premature in his rush to judgment? :roll:

Try again when you have some hard evidence. Fitzpatrick's a tough prosecutor and investigator. If it's true, I'll be there with you calling for him to go.

Perhaps, but come on Harvey... those are some pretty carefully chosen words you have to admit.

No, Fitzgerald's remarks about Obama and Obama's own words wern't "carefully chosen." Fitzgerald very specifically said no allegations were being made that Obama was aware of any alleged scheming by Blagojevich. Obama has denied any talks took place regarding giving Blagojevich anything, and Blagojevich is on tape being pissed about that.

Jackson's remarks were more tightly "crafted," but there still is no evidence of any wrongdoing by him.

Side issue, just to settle the matter. I seldom agree with either CADsortaGUY or ProfJohn, but they do not appear to be the same guy. I can say this both because I have discussed matters with both of them off the forums and because the IP addresses they use to access the forums don't match.

1. Wow, you actually got it mostly correct this time about what Fitz said. He did not make any allegations but he didn't say they were totally in the clear either. They(BHO and co) we not part of the allegations laid out by his report and thus he was not going to get into any such thing.

2. edit - removed to protect the confused?