Jesica Santillan: Irreversible brain damage (transplant patient)

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Double transplant teen has no brain activity 🙁

That is indeed sad. I was disappointed last night when they interviewed the mother. I understand being pissed off and bitter but she went beyond that. She accused the doctors of holding back and not giving her daughter the "medicine" to get better. Everyone knows that is not the case. I just hope the family realizes that everyone did the best they possibly could.

Considering what she's gone through over that past few weeks I wouldn't worry to much about what she says now. I think that most of us would be pretty bitter if this happened to our child.

BTW, if it were my child you can bet your ass I'd be suing the Doctors and the Hospital and I bet most of you would be too.

 

[Sepen]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
i may sound cold and evil, but she is an illegal immigrant. She should have never had any operations.

She's a human being for god sakes:|

Think of all the human beings here who can't afford care either. Human or not, she got what she deserved.

I am speechless. You are what I kindly refer to as "trash".

How can anyone say that this beautiful girl got what she deservered?

Jessica

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Sepen

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
i may sound cold and evil, but she is an illegal immigrant. She should have never had any operations.

She's a human being for god sakes:|

Think of all the human beings here who can't afford care either. Human or not, she got what she deserved.

I am speechless. You are what I kindly refer to as "trash".

How can anyone say that this beautiful girl got what she deservered?

Jessica

Morons can Sam, just Morons.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: IndieSnob
I'm a snob because I think we should take care of our own people first? Thanks for misinterpeting. Appreciate it.

I'm sorry. I forgot. You're the only person in the US that pays taxes

 

[Sepen]

Originally posted by: IndieSnob

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: IndieSnob
Before anyone jumps on my back for being ill willed or such, let me point out first of all it is a shame what has happened to this girl and I hold no ill will towards her.

I am so pissed off that a bunch of border jumpers can come over here and get all the surgeries they want and have it fall on us, the tax payers. I feel bad for these people, but does that mean we all have to make their lives better? No. Just like I don't agree with the funding of 3rd world countries and helping with their food/medical needs. I'm not saying that I, or we, as a country deserve more, or are better than other countries, but look at the amount of un-inscured LEGAL residents, and the number of homeless people we have starving. It's time this country started taking care of it's own, instead of everyone else's. Doesn't charity start at home? This may seem like a pretty extreme view on this but after you've worked at a job for almost 2 years, and had no health benefits, and 3 freakin time a university hospital tells you there's nothing wrong, and you know what it is, and you go to another doctor and they diagnose it the way you knew it, then had to go in for emergency surgery and stay in a hospital for 4 days and end up owing $30,000 and have lawyers on your ass, when then I guess I as a citizen have a right to be pissed off.

<End Rant>

Was this gal here illegally?

I thought that I had read that she was? If not I apologize for having my facts wrong.

I have read where her parents and her came here 5 years ago.

 

[Geekbabe]

That beautiful girl basically dead and gone before she had a chance to live.If I were her parents my grief and anger would be immeasurable.They'd be lucky if the only thing I did was to sue them for money.Come on people, this was a fsck up of epic proprortions.

 

[Storm]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Double transplant teen has no brain activity 🙁

That is indeed sad. I was disappointed last night when they interviewed the mother. I understand being pissed off and bitter but she went beyond that. She accused the doctors of holding back and not giving her daughter the "medicine" to get better. Everyone knows that is not the case. I just hope the family realizes that everyone did the best they possibly could.

Considering what she's gone through over that past few weeks I wouldn't worry to much about what she says now. I think that most of us would be pretty bitter if this happened to our child.

BTW, if it were my child you can bet your ass I'd be suing the Doctors and the Hospital and I bet most of you would be too.

Only if it was a major fvck up in the procedure like this case where the chief surgeon didnt follow correct procedure to check the blood type. Now if everything went smoothly and procedure was followed to the T but lets say my child didnt survive, I will be sad and anguished but I certainly wont blame the surgeons because everything was followed to the T.

 

[UDT89]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Double transplant teen has no brain activity 🙁

That is indeed sad. I was disappointed last night when they interviewed the mother. I understand being pissed off and bitter but she went beyond that. She accused the doctors of holding back and not giving her daughter the "medicine" to get better. Everyone knows that is not the case. I just hope the family realizes that everyone did the best they possibly could.

Considering what she's gone through over that past few weeks I wouldn't worry to much about what she says now. I think that most of us would be pretty bitter if this happened to our child.

BTW, if it were my child you can bet your ass I'd be suing the Doctors and the Hospital and I bet most of you would be too.

Like i said earlier, if they sue this will be the last time someone like this gets a free ride at a hospital. It will become too high risk.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Storm

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Double transplant teen has no brain activity 🙁

That is indeed sad. I was disappointed last night when they interviewed the mother. I understand being pissed off and bitter but she went beyond that. She accused the doctors of holding back and not giving her daughter the "medicine" to get better. Everyone knows that is not the case. I just hope the family realizes that everyone did the best they possibly could.

Considering what she's gone through over that past few weeks I wouldn't worry to much about what she says now. I think that most of us would be pretty bitter if this happened to our child.

BTW, if it were my child you can bet your ass I'd be suing the Doctors and the Hospital and I bet most of you would be too.

Only if it was a major fvck up in the procedure like this case where the chief surgeon didnt follow correct procedure to check the blood type. Now if everything went smoothly and procedure was followed to the T but lets say my child didnt survive, I will be sad and anguished but I certainly wont blame the surgeons because everything was followed to the T.

Of course

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: fizmeister
I think it's a sad state of affairs when this is one of the top news stories, when there are better things to worry about (and as for transplants and medical treatments, there are plenty of people in the same, if not, worse situation...).

But I suppose it's sad.

Agreed. Worthy of local news coverage, but not global news coveraga ala CNN.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: UDT89

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Codewiz

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Double transplant teen has no brain activity 🙁

That is indeed sad. I was disappointed last night when they interviewed the mother. I understand being pissed off and bitter but she went beyond that. She accused the doctors of holding back and not giving her daughter the "medicine" to get better. Everyone knows that is not the case. I just hope the family realizes that everyone did the best they possibly could.

Considering what she's gone through over that past few weeks I wouldn't worry to much about what she says now. I think that most of us would be pretty bitter if this happened to our child.

BTW, if it were my child you can bet your ass I'd be suing the Doctors and the Hospital and I bet most of you would be too.

Like i said earlier, if they sue this will be the last time someone like this gets a free ride at a hospital. It will become too high risk.

Seems to mne that a hospital where a chief Surgeon doesn't do basic things like triple check blood types is only giving out "free rides" to the morgue.. and nobody wants those.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Double transplant teen has no brain activity 🙁

How do we know she had brain activity prior to the operation? 😉

 

[Storm]

Originally posted by: UDT89

Like i said earlier, if they sue this will be the last time someone like this gets a free ride at a hospital. It will become too high risk.

I'm not so sure because she is not the only patient that came to the US for medical help where someone screwed up. It's not possible she's the only one. She just happens to be the only person I can think of who is getting this much press about the horrific screw-up.

For some clarification she and her family were illegal immigrants? Im not sure because everyone was so caught up talking about whether or not the US should pay for medical health care of everyone in need.

I ask that because if she and her family were illegal immigrants there has to be some other family that was the victim of medical help gone wrong. I wonder what happened in those cases since they did not get a lot of press since I for one cant remember. This case might definitely cause the hospitals to re-think their strategy. As nasty, evil and bad as it sounds, mistakes do happen, either by not following procedures or cutting too deep etc.

If there were other cases, I wonder what was the settlement because they most likely did not generate the press Jessica's case did. I would like to think that the courts would take in consideration other cases if any that are similar in circumstances. Why? Because they would be doing an injustice for awarding lets say $50 million to Jessica's family but a settlement to patient X's family that is a lot smaller but they didnt have the kind of press generated.

Also another note how can you put a price on a human life? Man what a can of worms. 🙁

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Double transplant teen has no brain activity 🙁

How do we know she had brain activity prior to the operation? 😉

Because after checking twice the Mods concluded that she wasn't CallTheFBI.

 

[Smolek]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: SuperTool

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Double transplant teen has no brain activity 🙁

How do we know she had brain activity prior to the operation? 😉

Because after checking twice the Mods concluded that she wasn't CallTheFBI.

lol

Very sad siutation though 🙁

 

[Smolek]

Fox News just said that the parents decided to take her off life support and she died shortly after.

 

[glen]

Teenager Who Got Botched Transplant Dies


By Emery P. DALESIO
The Associated Press
Saturday, February 22, 2003; 5:35 PM


Jesica Santillan, the teenager who survived a botched heart-lung transplant long enough to get an odds-shattering second set of donated organs, died Saturday afternoon.

Jesica was declared brain dead at 1:25 p.m., and taken off life-support machines at about 5 p.m., said Duke University Medical Center spokesman Richard Puff.

Earlier Saturday, a lawyer for the 17-year-old's family said they would not agree to remove her from life-support until they were allowed to get an outside doctor's opinion on her condition. Puff said he did not know if the hospital had the Santillans' consent to turn off the machines.

He said the family declined to donate any organs from Jesica's body, including the heart and lungs that had been donated to her in an operation Thursday. He did not know if those organs had been in any condition to use in a second transplant.

I want to know why they won't be organ donors when they were the recipient of that twice.

 

[Aceshigh]

Yep, her family is refusing to let the organs which were given to her be used to possibly save someone else's life. That is so wrong. I have lost any sympathy I had for them up to now.

Lock them up or deport them immediately.

 

[Rudee]

Originally posted by: glen
Teenager Who Got Botched Transplant Dies



He said the family declined to donate any organs from Jesica's body, including the heart and lungs that had been donated to her in an operation Thursday. He did not know if those organs had been in any condition to use in a second transplant.

I want to know why they won't be organ donors when they were the recipient of that twice.

The family declined to donate any organs? What a crock of $hit. I have no sympathy at all now.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Aceshigh
Yep, her family is refusing to let the organs which were given to her be used to possibly save someone else's life. That is so wrong. I have lost any sympathy I had for them up to now.

Lock them up or deport them immediately.

In my opinion, this is not Jesica's fault, and it is indeed sad that she never had the opportunity to live. Her family, however, sounds like they're a bunch of first-class jackasses.

 

[Storm]

Originally posted by: Smolek
Fox News just said that the parents decided to take her off life support and she died shortly after.

Heard it on the news also. 🙁

He said the family declined to donate any organs from Jesica's body, including the heart and lungs that had been donated to her in an operation Thursday. He did not know if those organs had been in any condition to use in a second transplant.

Thats ridiculous.

Edit
I hope the organs were in no condition to be donated. Otherwise <insert> ridiculous comment.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Are the organs donateable though? As in would they "operate" again?

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: iamwiz82
i may sound cold and evil, but she is an illegal immigrant. She should have never had any operations.

She's a human being for god sakes:|

that might be true, but its still a zero sum gain deal with organ transplants. with the extreme shortage we face, for every person who gets an organ, another must die waiting. they wasted two organs that could have potentially saved two citizens, or legal immigrants. when supplies are limited hard decisions must be made. take it this way. if your mom and another woman(complete stranger) needed a heart transplant and there was only one organ and you were given the choice, who would you give the organ? all things being equal between the two women. now imagine if the other woman was illegally here. makes it even easier eh? does that make the decision bad? no.

its the same way we always have decided how people recieve organs. those most likely to benifit and didn't destroy their organs from misuse of drugs etc are front of line.

The family declined to donate any organs? What a crock of $hit. I have no sympathy at all now.

ungrateful bastards. they don't deserve anything.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: glen
Teenager Who Got Botched Transplant Dies


By Emery P. DALESIO
The Associated Press
Saturday, February 22, 2003; 5:35 PM


Jesica Santillan, the teenager who survived a botched heart-lung transplant long enough to get an odds-shattering second set of donated organs, died Saturday afternoon.

Jesica was declared brain dead at 1:25 p.m., and taken off life-support machines at about 5 p.m., said Duke University Medical Center spokesman Richard Puff.

Earlier Saturday, a lawyer for the 17-year-old's family said they would not agree to remove her from life-support until they were allowed to get an outside doctor's opinion on her condition. Puff said he did not know if the hospital had the Santillans' consent to turn off the machines.

He said the family declined to donate any organs from Jesica's body, including the heart and lungs that had been donated to her in an operation Thursday. He did not know if those organs had been in any condition to use in a second transplant.

I want to know why they won't be organ donors when they were the recipient of that twice.

link?

 

[Tom]

This must be really hard on the doctors and people who try so hard to help people and end up making a mistake, apparently. I say apparently because I don't want to lay the responsibility on any particular person without knowing more than I do.