Jen Hsun Huang says NO to Globalfoundries

[MrK6]

As far as using GF- are people normally thinking that it is a good idea to business with criminals? I'm really rather shocked that people are under the impression that moving to GF at this point in time would be wise. We know that the people running the company are crooked, they are looking at jail time for what they have already done- and people are seriously thinking they wouldn't steal nV's designs and give them to ATi? Until GF is thoroughly investigated and all of the con men placed in prison I can't see how anyone would reasonably expect a company to risk billions of dollars into them. As of right now, not even ATi trusts them enough to use them. Sure, TSMC has issues, but I don't see their executives in cuffs on the news.

Allegations state the people within Global Foundries were giving Galleon Group insider information so that they could complete deals based on reports being released with advanced information. This is insider trading, and it is illegal for anyone in a publicly traded company to have anything at all to do with it.

And you were either A) born yesterday B) know nothing of the business world or C) a poor example of a NVIDIA zealot (there's plenty of role models on these boards, take some lessons). Thanks for making that blatantly obvious to everyone on the boards; it'll save a lot of time in the future.

 

[BenSkywalker]

And you were either A) born yesterday B) know nothing of the business world or C) a poor example of a NVIDIA zealot (there's plenty of role models on these boards, take some lessons). Thanks for making that blatantly obvious to everyone on the boards; it'll save a lot of time in the future.

Could you please post why you think the USAG is a huge fan of nVidia.

 

[MrK6]

Could you please post why you think the USAG is a huge fan of nVidia.

No, I'd rather stay on topic and post why all of your above statements are laughable. You honestly think every other business out there isn't partaking in insider trading? Please say yes, I need a good laugh, this is a long shift.

 

[ronnn]

Keep it civil guys. Watching closely.
Anandtech Moderator - Keysplayr

Great now we have an nvidia employee as a super moderator in a thread involving nvidia. From the sublime to the ridiculous here. Sad times for anandtech.

You've also got a non-nVidia, non-ATI Super Moderator watching this thread. And I suggest you guys DO keep it civil. BTW: Your post comes d@mn close to being Mod Call-Out, so pls be careful. Also note that this is not the appropriate sub-forum for discussions about moderation, take it to PFI or the new Moderator Discussions sub-forum.

Fern
Super Moderator

 

[Obsoleet]

This does get a bit tricky, but try to follow- Intel has the majority of the graphics market. Intel sells more graphics chips then AMD and nVidia combined. Larrabee is shaping up to be years late(not months) and the best demo of it we have seen is running a game years old ATi/nV cards push over 100FPS as a slideshow. Now to add some more fuel to that fire, nV is pulling the cross licensing agreement out from under Intel which will allow them to make no graphics chips at all. There are several different ways you can look at it, but at the end of the day nVidia has opened more then a can of whoop ass on Intel in this market already, it could soon turn into a tanker

Tiny Nvidia attempting to take on a real, and massive semiconductor company like Intel. Keep dreaming. All this NV huff and puff is just laughable. They have nothing.

Ray tracing is undeniably the way forward for graphics, a realm in which Nvidia and ATI have no upper hand. ATI at least is AMD, which has a future in x86 based ray tracing.

This licensing agreement being pulled means nothing other than a faster end to rasterization. edit to add- And even IF I'm wrong... http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...n_Companies_Sign_Cross_License_Agreement.html

Intel, on the other hand, now has access to patents of ATI, graphics business unit of AMD.

...AMD can provide any patents to Intel that maintaining the present day IGP market would require. That's the way it was meant to be played.

As far as using GF- are people normally thinking that it is a good idea to business with criminals? I'm really rather shocked that people are under the impression that moving to GF at this point in time would be wise. We know that the people running the company are crooked, they are looking at jail time for what they have already done- and people are seriously thinking they wouldn't steal nV's designs and give them to ATi? Until GF is thoroughly investigated and all of the con men placed in prison I can't see how anyone would reasonably expect a company to risk billions of dollars into them. As of right now, not even ATi trusts them enough to use them. Sure, TSMC has issues, but I don't see their executives in cuffs on the news.

What FUD. There is no morality in business, either you get caught or you don't. Nvidia has been caught, and will be again.

 

[yh125d]

Great now we have an nvidia employee as a super moderator in a thread involving nvidia. From the sublime to the ridiculous here. Sad times for anandtech.

You're a dolt. You realize mods aren't allow to moderate in threads where they participate as a non-mod? I'd probably have warned them too


NV focus group =/= NV employee

 

[Idontcare]

Great now we have an nvidia employee as a super moderator in a thread involving nvidia. From the sublime to the ridiculous here. Sad times for anandtech.

Do you honestly believe that all the decision makers involved in the decision to elevate keys' moderator status are incapable of thinking thru the implications themselves?

If you believe keys is pulling a fast one here and has hoodwinked the forum management all the way to the top brass then I'd really have to question why you'd personally bother sticking around in such an absurdly (by your own assessment) managed forum.

If on the other hand you believe management here are capable of thinking thru the implications and you are willing to concede they are not idiots beneath your contempt then perhaps you should consider the possibility that maybe you are the one who has failed in the assessment of keys' ability to be a super moderator.

That's basically what it comes down to, isn't it? You either believe yourself to have superior mental faculty to that of Anand and Derek, or you resign yourself to accepting the possibility that you are operating at a deficit to all the facts and details that the decision makers here have at their disposal when they made their decisions.

The shoes you are currently wearing, you won't find me caught dead in them.

Please don't derail the thread with discussions about moderation; that belongs elsewhere anyway.

TIA

Fern
Super Moderator

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

I don't like this trend!

If anything, this just reaffirms the fact that the tech industry is cyclical - old ideas/concepts get rediscovered and reused when appropriate, like so :

 

[MrK6]

Do you honestly believe that all the decision makers involved in the decision to elevate keys' moderator status are incapable of thinking thru the implications themselves?

If you believe keys is pulling a fast one here and has hoodwinked the forum management all the way to the top brass then I'd really have to question why you'd personally bother sticking around in such an absurdly (by your own assessment) managed forum.

If on the other hand you believe management here are capable of thinking thru the implications and you are willing to concede they are not idiots beneath your contempt then perhaps you should consider the possibility that maybe you are the one who has failed in the assessment of keys' ability to be a super moderator.

That's basically what it comes down to, isn't it? You either believe yourself to have superior mental faculty to that of Anand and Derek, or you resign yourself to accepting the possibility that you are operating at a deficit to all the facts and details that the decision makers here have at their disposal when they made their decisions.

The shoes you are currently wearing, you won't find me caught dead in them.

I'm glad you were in the meeting(s) when Anand and Derek discussed this and have every detail to come to those two very limited and basic conclusions. You're next to be a super moderator, right?

Please don't derail this thread with discussions about moderation; that belongs elsewhere anyway.

TIA

Fern
Supr Moderator

 

[T2k]

Do you honestly believe that all the decision makers involved in the decision to elevate keys' moderator status are incapable of thinking thru the implications themselves?

If you believe keys is pulling a fast one here and has hoodwinked the forum management all the way to the top brass then I'd really have to question why you'd personally bother sticking around in such an absurdly (by your own assessment) managed forum.

If on the other hand you believe management here are capable of thinking thru the implications and you are willing to concede they are not idiots beneath your contempt then perhaps you should consider the possibility that maybe you are the one who has failed in the assessment of keys' ability to be a super moderator.

That's basically what it comes down to, isn't it? You either believe yourself to have superior mental faculty to that of Anand and Derek, or you resign yourself to accepting the possibility that you are operating at a deficit to all the facts and details that the decision makers here have at their disposal when they made their decisions.

The shoes you are currently wearing, you won't find me caught dead in them.

Please don't derail the thread with discussions about moderation; that belongs elsewhere anyway.

TIA

Fern
Super Moderator

Great now we have an nvidia employee as a super moderator in a thread involving nvidia. From the sublime to the ridiculous here. Sad times for anandtech.

You've also got a non-nVidia, non-ATI Super Moderator watching this thread. And I suggest you guys DO keep it civil. BTW: Your post comes d@mn close to being Mod Call-Out, so pls be careful. Also note that this is not the appropriate sub-forum for discussions about moderation, take it to PFI or the new Moderator Discussions sub-forum.

Fern
Super Moderator

Not to further derail the topic - though not much can be added here anymore - interestingly enough every time I get a warning or noticein PM it always comes from your "Nvidia-sponsored Mod" about an NV-related issue and carries the same type of threats you are pulling here.

Telling people 'Oh do you really think we were sold out?' or simply to shut up won't put this issue to rest, folks.

To get rid of your deepening credibility problem you HAVE to remove either the Nvidia-sponsored person from this role or the mod should quit his NV-sponsored activist group. Yes, it's that simple.

So I issue polite warnings asking members not to derail this thread with discussions about moderation and you do so anyway?

Take a day off (see below also) to review the posting rules in PFI to understand that you have different avenues available to you for that purpose.

Fern
Super Moderator

 

[T2k]

If anything, this just reaffirms the fact that the tech industry is cyclical - old ideas/concepts get rediscovered and reused when appropriate, like so :

Yeah, I LOOOVE this pic!

 

[yh125d]

I should get one of those. It would so fit in my case, It's just be sticking out of a 5.25" bay in front by a few inches, lol

 

[T2k]

Link their crimes- those being prosecuted by the government or shut your silly ignorant mouth

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/comp5lr17243.htm

http://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/comp3lr17243.htm

Should I go on or is it enough to make it my turn to say "shut your silly ignorant mouth", you Nvidia-mouthpiece?

God, I hate these cheap paid shills.

You've been warned multiple times about personal insults/attacks in this tech sub-forum; this isn't P&N. We want to keep the tech sub-forus civil to encourage members (particulalry new ones) to seek tech help/advice here; that's the purpose of the forums. Disagreeing is fine, disagreeing passionately is fine too. But personal insults/attacks are not.

You've got 3 days off for personal attacks/insults (for a total of 4 - see above)

Fern
Super Moderator

 

[BenSkywalker]

The CEO is obviously directly comparable to some low ranking employees too.

Need to get some executives under prosecution from the USAG. The people in charge of the company, illegaly transferring information. That is the issue. That is the biggest possible concern that nV could have for using GF, and it is something the CEO of the company has done. Find something comparable. I didn't post about the pedophile janitor at AMD either, that really doesn't make much of a difference to the company at large.

BTW, in your link-

22. At all relevant times, nVIDIA had an insider trading policy that prohibited its employees from trading in nVIDIA securities based on material, nonpublic information concerning the Company and from tipping outsiders with material, nonpublic information. Defendants received nVIDIA's insider trading policy prior to the time they purchased nVIDIA stock on March 6, 2000.

23. By purchasing nVIDIA securities on March 6, 2000 after learning material, nonpublic information concerning the award of the X-Box contract to nVIDIA, Defendants violated the Company's policies on insider trading and use of confidential information.

Your bosses may not be happy to see you posting information proving nV directly prohibited the illegal actions their bosses partake in.