Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide at Manhattan Jail

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fskimospy

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Talk about Big Balls...

I mean this is the world's easiest lawsuit for him to win so if I were him I would be saying 'bring it on' too. There were numerous published reports that Epstein introduced Trump and Melania and regardless of if they are true or not he can point to them as to why he lacks actual malice and that's game over for Trump.
 

hal2kilo

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It matters on just how those files have been handled. The stories that they had 1000 FBI agents pouring over it would mean that there are a lot of copies out there and you would be right. If that was an exaggeration, or if they classified the material, then they probably have some strict control of it and know where the copies are and who is handling them.
Since we have not really seen any leaks yet, I think it likely they have successfully controlled the documents and if so, have probably already destroyed any that were bad for the Trump administration.
Very unlike how Trump himself handled classified documents.
 
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fskimospy

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It matters on just how those files have been handled. The stories that they had 1000 FBI agents pouring over it would mean that there are a lot of copies out there and you would be right. If that was an exaggeration, or if they classified the material, then they probably have some strict control of it and know where the copies are and who is handling them.
Since we have not really seen any leaks yet, I think it likely they have successfully controlled the documents and if so, have probably already destroyed any that were bad for the Trump administration.
I mean there was a full on indictment and conviction of Maxwell that would have involved analyzing those files. Lots of people have seen them.
 
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Talk about Big Balls...

Also just a bogus lawsuit. The defamation, if it exists, is in the book, not the person repeating the story that they read.

This is just another nonsense attempt by Trumps to keep the Biden name in the news and to try to extract money. I'm sure as per the usual MO, the Trump family will chicken out and drop it before any discovery is done.
 
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nakedfrog

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You take that back, or... I'll sue you! I'll sue you for...

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dank69

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The problem is there is nobody outside of Trump's admin to pursue any of it anymore, and we know they aren't going to pursue it.
 

amenx

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The Trump admin are hoping to use Maxwells testimony to exonerate him in exchange for her clemency and release. Her living conditions have suddenly improved after having moved to a minimum security, country club style 'prison' while they work on her story.
 
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They've been doing shit like this and worse for decades. this is nothing to them. They've had virtual control of almost every US prez since way back.
Who's "they"?

It's not that Israel has control over US politicians. It's that the idea of Israel in the US is largely divorced from what Israel is and does in reality, and this idealized view of Israel has become a domestic political issue that public opinion and filtering up to political positions has been slow to change.

You're seeing complete collapse of support for Israel in the US (at least amongst Democrats) because Netanyahu decided to play partisan American domestic politics, and that coupled with their own actions are making people wake up to the fact that the right-wing Israeli government may not be aligned with American interests in the region or around the world.
 

amenx

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Who's "they"?

It's not that Israel has control over US politicians. It's that the idea of Israel in the US is largely divorced from what Israel is and does in reality, and this idealized view of Israel has become a domestic political issue that public opinion and filtering up to political positions has been slow to change.

You're seeing complete collapse of support for Israel in the US (at least amongst Democrats) because Netanyahu decided to play partisan American domestic politics, and that coupled with their own actions are making people wake up to the fact that the right-wing Israeli government may not be aligned with American interests in the region or around the world.
Yes that may indeed be happening, but Israel still has tremendous leverage over much of the US political and governmental apparatus. Its not going to disappear overnight. And may continue for the foreseeable future regardless of their "collapse of support" across much of the US. Until that "collapse of support" translates into votes that can defeat every AIPAC backed shmuck running congress, states and the govt, it may continue for quite a while.
 

nakedfrog

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Who's "they"?

It's not that Israel has control over US politicians. It's that the idea of Israel in the US is largely divorced from what Israel is and does in reality, and this idealized view of Israel has become a domestic political issue that public opinion and filtering up to political positions has been slow to change.

You're seeing complete collapse of support for Israel in the US (at least amongst Democrats) because Netanyahu decided to play partisan American domestic politics, and that coupled with their own actions are making people wake up to the fact that the right-wing Israeli government may not be aligned with American interests in the region or around the world.
And it plays well with our American death cult trying to manifest the conditions for the return of their prophet, because these people always have to be living in "the End Times".
 

VashHT

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And it plays well with our American death cult trying to manifest the conditions for the return of their prophet, because these people always have to be living in "the End Times".
Sometimes I think it'd be funny if the rapture actually happened just to see all of the christians who'd get left behind, the looks on their faces would be hilarious.
 

pmv

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Sometimes I think it'd be funny if the rapture actually happened just to see all of the christians who'd get left behind, the looks on their faces would be hilarious.


Am a million miles from being any kind of expert in theology, but superficially it strikes me there are a lot of weird (and slightly alarming, when one thinks about it, and in particular when thinks about which countries favour these beliefs) similarities between Evangelical "End Times" Christianity and the Twelver faction of Shia Islam.


The day of God will resurrect all human beings and they will stand before God to be questioned about their lives on the world. On this day people are two groups, people who receive their book by their right hand who are the people of paradise and their face is bright and the people who receive their book by their left hand who are the people of Hell and their face is dark. As the verse 41:21 points out, on the Day of Judgement, the ears, eyes and skin of disbelievers will testify against them saying "Allah has caused us to speak – He causes all things to speak."

So, maybe when this day arrives, we'll find out which side were right? Gonna be a tense period, waiting to see which God turns up to start judging people.
 

mikeymikec

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60 Minutes (Australia) covering the Trumpstein story. It seems to me that it's been written more for people who wanted a primer on the topic rather than people looking for news on the topic.

Candace Owens flouting her goldfish-like intellect was sadly funny though:
"I can't reconcile this Donald Trump with the Trump we're seeing right now, the Trump that is gaslighting the public right now"

The lady with the dark hair who said that she was abused by Epstein and went on to vote for Trump because she thought a friend of Epstein's and fellow sex offender would be the guy to expose the Epstein conspiracy was something else though. I would have thought that sexual abuse victims would basically be hard-wired to strongly distrust anyone with the vaguest hint of sexual impropriety about them, but at the end of the day I guess it's rather like how scam victims are often ripe for double-dipping.

At about the twenty-minute mark though things get a bit strange; the programme asserts that there's no denying that the start of his presidency has been productive, like "securing the border"... I'm guessing 60 Minutes AU is run by a fellow right-winger with fantasies of getting rid of all the <pejorative here> immigrants, and I guess Australia is kind of a kindred spirit to the US what with their treatment of the natives :D

I didn't realise that Trump's quote about having the "privilege" of going to Epstein's island was actually in the same sentence as "I turned it down" and "others went there"... christ, it's like listening to a single-digit-age kid try to brazenly lie their way out of deep shit.
 
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