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Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide at Manhattan Jail

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Trump: “What client list? There is no client list!!”

Also Trump: “The Epstein Files are fake!! They were made up by Obama and Comey just like the Steele Dossier!!”

I mean, I know MAGA Nation is profoundly stupid…but are they really THAT stupid? Trump needs to be careful playing his base for fools every time.
 
Trump: “What client list? There is no client list!!”

Also Trump: “The Epstein Files are fake!! They were made up by Obama and Comey just like the Steele Dossier!!”

I mean, I know MAGA Nation is profoundly stupid…but are they really THAT stupid? Trump needs to be careful playing his base for fools every time.
Without his fools he'd be nowhere, that he knows, and really not much else.
 
Trump wants this to go away yesterday, and now Bongino is saying either lose Bondi or I quit. Patel is now saying he will leave if Bongino quits.

Must be some rough stuff in those files.
 
Trump: “What client list? There is no client list!!”

Also Trump: “The Epstein Files are fake!! They were made up by Obama and Comey just like the Steele Dossier!!”

I mean, I know MAGA Nation is profoundly stupid…but are they really THAT stupid? Trump needs to be careful playing his base for fools every time.
Ask the people in this forum that believe everything he says even if he says two different things in the same sentence.
 
Ask the people in this forum that believe everything he says even if he says two different things in the same sentence.

Waidadamminit...are you implying that King Donnie Two Scoops, the most honest and ethical human being who has ever lived...the ONLY president to survive TWO impeachment attempts...and might push Jeezus out of the holy trinity because he's so fckn good...might not always tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? :colbert:
 
I was always really skeptical anything could flip the MAGA faithful against him. Might have just found that one thing. His instincts on this have been really terrible lol.
 
Wonder what Ghislain Maxwell has on Trump.

He treats her with kid gloves. Notice how he's never called her a "scumbag" or anything derogatory like he has with Epstein in his public comments. He actually "wished her well" and "good luck" when she was hauled off to prison. Wouldn't be surprised if she suddenly and mysteriously dies in prison of something, something ... I think Maxwell's appealing with SCOTUS?

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He treats her with kid gloves. Notice how he's never called her a "scumbag" or anything derogatory like he has with Epstein in his public comments. He actually "wished her well" and "good luck" when she was hauled off to prison. Wouldn't be surprised if she suddenly and mysteriously dies in prison of something, something ...

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The only theory I have about her is that she's a weaponised witness: "You'll testify that you saw such-and-such on the island", but the only reason in the current environment I can think of that a weaponised witness would really come in handy would be if Trump needs to hang the whole Epstein shit around the neck of someone in the administration, tie them into the Epstein scandal and maybe his followers would swallow it.
 
Amazing how Trump and his supporters can simply wish away the fact that he's a convicted felon, tax cheat, sex abuser et al along with ignoring every blatant lie he and his excusers farts out on que. It's a perfect system they've created for themselves that allows all of them to lie to each other and the world and have those lies become their truths. What they've found is they can say anything they want to justify their criminality and their treachery and it really doesn't matter to them if they do because nobody's going to hold them accountable, especially with hair trigger pardon happy Donny Boy watching over his herd.
 
The only theory I have about her is that she's a weaponised witness: "You'll testify that you saw such-and-such on the island", but the only reason in the current environment I can think of that a weaponised witness would really come in handy would be if Trump needs to hang the whole Epstein shit around the neck of someone in the administration, tie them into the Epstein scandal and maybe his followers would swallow it.

She's locked up in Tallahassee FL. She hasn't talked yet and maybe that's what Trump was warning her against, when he said: "I wish her well" and "good luck" immediately after her arrest and incarceration. Kind of mob boss like code. Who wishes a convicted child sex-trafficker well?

If Trump does leave office, he pardons her on his way out. She's probably keeping her mouth shut because she knows it's coming. If she lives long enough.
 
The dead don't testify! I'm not a big conspiracy guy, BUT! i do see a pattern

Jeffery Epstein - found hanged in his jail cell. The security cameras failed. The guards nodded off. The cellmate was gone. The autopsy looked like a mob hit. They ruled it a suicide and walked away.

Steve Hoffenberg - Epstein’s old financial mentor had begun talking. He had dirt, connections, memories. He was preparing to go public. Instead, his body was found rotting alone in his Connecticut apartment. Too decomposed for a traditional autopsy. Cause of death? “Undetermined.” an “undetermined natural death” that somehow left him decomposing in his Connecticut apartment after telling people he feared he wouldn’t make it to court.

Jean-Luc Brunel - He ran a global modeling agency that allegedly funneled underage girls directly to Epstein. He was about to go to trial. Brunel was found hanged in his Paris jail cell, just like Epstein. The French authorities said there was no camera footage inside his cell. They ruled it a suicide and walked away.

Mark Middleton - He was the former White House aide who arranged Jeffrey Epstein’s visits to the Clinton administration. His body was found hanging with a shotgun blast to the chest. A shotgun was found 30 feet from the body. The family sealed the records. His potential testimony about Epstein’s early access to political elites simply vanished along with him. The local sheriff ruled it a suicide and walked away.

Virginia Giuffre - The woman who sued Prince Andrew and who pointed to the men and said: "I was trafficked by them and to them". She was found dead this year in Western Australia on her farm. Her father said, bluntly, “somebody got to her.” No forensic reinvestigation. Just a quiet burial and a vanishing act. The authorities called it a suicide and walked away.
 
Damn. Looked it up. She is in prison on federal charges. He could pardon her and she would go free.

It’s plausible he would do that. That’s the kind of person he is
 
She's locked up in Tallahassee FL. She hasn't talked yet and maybe that's what Trump was warning her against, when he said: "I wish her well" and "good luck" immediately after her arrest and incarceration. Kind of mob boss like code. Who wishes a convicted child sex-trafficker well?

If Trump does leave office, he pardons her on his way out. She's probably keeping her mouth shut because she knows it's coming. If she lives long enough.

Mob thinking would have also considered that her turning up dead in prison is a much quicker and simpler solution. As if anyone would have any trouble believing that a convicted sex trafficker of minors would spark some righteous indignation among the fellow inmates.

Until the quid pro quo has occurred (and maybe even after it has), she's at risk of getting flipped. I realise that pokes a hole in my theory too.
 
Damn. Looked it up. She is in prison on federal charges. He could pardon her and she would go free.

It’s plausible he would do that. That’s the kind of person he is

Imagine if Jeffery Epstein were alive today and all the evidence against him had just magically disappeared!

Trump: - "Stop talking about the guy I was best friends with for 15 years."

Trump’s MAGA cult has short attention spans! He is going to try to wait this out! Although his deflections are getting so lame. Announcing that Rosie O'Donnell is a threat to the country is one of his more bizarre moments in presidential history.

All this chaos, and It's only been 6 months, folks.
 
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Mob thinking would have also considered that her turning up dead in prison is a much quicker and simpler solution. As if anyone would have any trouble believing that a convicted sex trafficker of minors would spark some righteous indignation among the fellow inmates.

Until the quid pro quo has occurred (and maybe even after it has), she's at risk of getting flipped. I realise that pokes a hole in my theory too.

Trump is squirming. Even supposing Trump wasn't one of his pedophile clients, he still knew Epstein was a trafficker of underage girls. In his public comments, he all but admitted as much by saying Jeffery "likes them young". For decades Trump (Along with many powerful people) turned a blind eye to the sexual exploitation and molestation of children. That conclusion is almost inescapable.

Although ... The more the media keeps Epstein in the news cycle, the less they will report on the disastrous Big Billionaire Bill and Trumps TDS (Tariff Derangement Syndrome)
 
This is why everyone in this forum that brags about being part of camp Trump is part of a brainwashed cult. Check this out. It's all of them

 
Trump: “What client list? There is no client list!!”

Also Trump: “The Epstein Files are fake!! They were made up by Obama and Comey just like the Steele Dossier!!”

I mean, I know MAGA Nation is profoundly stupid…but are they really THAT stupid? Trump needs to be careful playing his base for fools every time.
Holy fuck. I thought you were paraphrasing a general social media sentiment... But nope, here is the !truth.

"They fabricated the Epstein Files, just as they concocted FAKE Clinton/Steele Dossier that they used against [me], and my so-called friends are falling right into their trap."
He further questioned why attention was being given to "Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden administration"

The fucking Epstein thing may just bring him the fuck down.
When the base starts to crack, the wolves WILL be at his throat. Look out for Elmo.
 
Holy fuck. I thought you were paraphrasing a general social media sentiment... But nope, here is the !truth.

"They fabricated the Epstein Files, just as they concocted FAKE Clinton/Steele Dossier that they used against [me], and my so-called friends are falling right into their trap."
He further questioned why attention was being given to "Files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, and the Losers and Criminals of the Biden administration"

The fucking Epstein thing may just bring him the fuck down.
When the base starts to crack, the wolves WILL be at his throat. Look out for Elmo.
It will never happen. His base is too solidly entrenched. They’ll just find a way to explain/excuse it to the point where it looks good for him instead of bad…and the rest? Well…we’re all just humns. Forgive him his weaknesses.
 
It will never happen. His base is too solidly entrenched. They’ll just find a way to explain/excuse it to the point where it looks good for him instead of bad…and the rest? Well…we’re all just humns. Forgive him his weaknesses.

The fear I'm seeing from Trump about this makes me think you might be wrong. This issue appears to be different than the others he's weathered, and his attempts to quash and downplay it are just making it worse. The QAnon folks don't seem to be letting this go, that's probably like what? Almost half of magaland?

Schisms happen, but honestly I'm thinking the odds are greater this sex trafficking douchebag will do something horrific to wag the dog away from his child raping past. This is the guy who tried to get his VP hanged by a mob let's remember.
 
Definitely seems like this could peel off a few % of his base, which is a big deal.

But when it comes to like a full-blown MAGA civil war, I’ll believe it when I see it.
 
If dems have any sense they keep this fire going ... OR are they perhaps beholden to the same donors as the opposition is. 🙁
 
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