Jeffrey Epstein Commits Suicide at Manhattan Jail

[dank69]

Missed the part about ditching the Secret Service to go on Epstein's plane?

Jeez, where did you hear that bullshit? Let me guess. Your brother? Lol

 

[VRAMdemon]

Just one more idiotic statement in a thread filled with your idiocy.

Yeah...I'm not buying it. The conspiracy theories that is, because by default conspiracy theories are garbage and the conspiracy theories in this case are complete bullshit. I simply refuse to be that damn credulous. His life was effectively over, he knew it... and he'd already tried to off himself once. Occam's Razor suggests he just made a second go of it and this time he succeeded.

The very fact that the optics are awful will guarantee a lot of attention. This will be investigated. Whatever was going to come out will, eventually, come out. If he really was poisoned/ninja'ed/ strangled with the dark side of the force...that will also come out and when real damning evidence of a conspiracy is presented I'll shake my head and say a mea culpa. But rational people won't put any of that nonsense in play.

And really, the timing makes sense for a suicide as well. This new flood of damning releases is just the sort of thing to make a depressed, doomed abuser decide to give killing himself another try. The only thing needing to be explained is why he was taken off suicide watch

 

[JEDIYoda]

More idiocity -- Those aren`t cell phones...…`what possibly could this mean?

 

[woolfe9998]

Ghislaine Maxwell can still be rounded up and talk. How long before she commits suicide? Or maybe a traffic accident..

And if no such thing ever happens to her, I'm sure you won't change your tune about this alleged conspiracy anyway.

 

[woolfe9998]

Just a reminder: making accusations without evidence is conspiracy mongering. And if you're someone on the left who is buying into this because you want Trump to be guilty of something here, you're no better than the ranting loons on the right. You are, in fact, exactly the same. Just take a look at Slow for a reminder of who you're keeping company with.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Just one more idiotic statement in a thread filled with your idiocy.

What is idiotic about it? You name call to I guess fill in the absent conversation, what about that is wrong? You think if there was a NYT headline that says


Epstein Reveals Trump Had Sex With A 15 Year Old Sex Slave


That it would disappear in the news cycle in a couple days? That Donald could survive that? You’ve called me an idiot and stupid all throughout this thread for some reason, I’m not sure if I’ve personally done something to you or what but you seem to have a very negative focus on me.

What did I say that is wrong and idiotic?

 

[UglyCasanova]

And if no such thing ever happens to her, I'm sure you won't change your tune about this alleged conspiracy anyway.

Epstein's death doesn’t depend on her. This needs to be investigated by the FBI, I’m sure strings have already been pulled so that it’s not. I’ve been reading different forums and it seems almost unanimous that this stinks to high heavens, why are you trying to sweep under the rug?

 

[UglyCasanova]

Just a reminder: making accusations without evidence is conspiracy mongering. And if you're someone on the left who is buying into this because you want Trump to be guilty of something here, you're no better than the ranting loons on the right. You are, in fact, exactly the same. Just take a look at Slow for a reminder of who you're keeping company with.

This seems like partisan marching orders. Just a reminder if you’re somebody on the left, don’t listen to this. Use your brain not partisanship. This is a both sides issue, we have powerful men on both sides of the spectrum that had a lot to lose by Epstein going to trial. Look at the absurdity of what just happened. This needs to be investigated. Woolfe can try to deflect by saying "conspiracy theory don’t bite!" but look at all that just happened and ask yourself if we should look into the events further.

 

[woolfe9998]

Epstein's death doesn’t depend on her. This needs to be investigated by the FBI, I’m sure strings have already been pulled so that it’s not. I’ve been reading different forums and it seems almost unanimous that this stinks to high heavens, why are you trying to sweep under the rug?

Not sweeping anything under the rug. I've given numerous logical reasons why this doesn't look like a conspiracy and doesn't make sense as such, none of which you are anyone else has been able to refute. And I could care less how many others think it's a conspiracy. You're on strike 10 now for logical fallacies in this thread alone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

Most people also believe in God. Guess what, they're probably wrong as there is no credible evidence of any such supernatural being. You'll pardon me if I can't give two shits about what "most people" believe. Most people are idiots.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

This seems like partisan marching orders. Just a reminder if you’re somebody on the left, don’t listen to this. Use your brain not partisanship. This is a both sides issue, we have powerful men on both sides of the spectrum that had a lot to lose by Epstein going to trial. Look at the absurdity of what just happened. This needs to be investigated. Woolfe can try to deflect by saying "conspiracy theory don’t bite!" but look at all that just happened and ask yourself if we should look into the events further.

It’s stupid because any of the people who might have actually had a reason have had ample opportunity before now to do it. Who waits until he is locked up in a prison? It’s absurd. So they weren’t worried at all a decade ago but now they are terrified?

If any of the power people wanted him dead he would have been dead long ago. When it was easy.

 

[woolfe9998]

This seems like partisan marching orders. Just a reminder if you’re somebody on the left, don’t listen to this. Use your brain not partisanship. This is a both sides issue, we have powerful men on both sides of the spectrum that had a lot to lose by Epstein going to trial. Look at the absurdity of what just happened. This needs to be investigated. Woolfe can try to deflect by saying "conspiracy theory don’t bite!" but look at all that just happened and ask yourself if we should look into the events further.

No, they have absolutely nothing to lose by Epstein going to trial. A fact which I've repeatedly pointed out and for which you have no logical reply. Neither man could ever be convicted on Epstein's word, and neither is in a position to have his reputation damaged by a single additional accusation of sexual misconduct, and one from a convicted serial molester with plenty of reason to lie no less.

Yes, people should listen. People on the left have been complaining about all the conspiracy mongering going on in the right, particularly during the Trump era. Buying into this conspiracy theory makes them no better. All it means is that the next time they accuse of a righty of being a loony conspiracy theorist, they're going to reek of hypocrisy. Yes, people on the left should at least pause before coming across like Slow or you on this.

 

[dank69]

What is idiotic about it? You name call to I guess fill in the absent conversation, what about that is wrong? You think if there was a NYT headline that says


Epstein Reveals Trump Had Sex With A 15 Year Old Sex Slave


That it would disappear in the news cycle in a couple days? That Donald could survive that? You’ve called me an idiot and stupid all throughout this thread for some reason, I’m not sure if I’ve personally done something to you or what but you seem to have a very negative focus on me.

What did I say that is wrong and idiotic?

Fake news from the failing NYT. Epstein is a Clinton crony just trying to bring down Trump.

Two fucking seconds, idiot.

And I've already pointed out two different stupid things you said in this thread, one of which you confirmed and the other you ignored. And I haven't even touched on the most stupid thing you said about any old man fucking a 21 yo means they would fuck a 15 yo. I'm not sure how someone that could say something that stupid could manage not to drown the first time you were caught in the rain. I swear, if you and I were standing in a room together and you said that in front of me and I was holding a trout, I would have knocked your head clean off.

 

[Bird222]

What did he have on Trump? 😀

 

[UglyCasanova]

I've given numerous logical reasons why this doesn't look like a conspiracy and doesn't make sense as such, none of which you are anyone else has been able to refute.

We all must have missed them, what were those reasons? To me it reeks of a hit to keep him from talking. But what are the reasons you that you think otherwise?

 

[brycejones]

What is idiotic about it? You name call to I guess fill in the absent conversation, what about that is wrong? You think if there was a NYT headline that says


Epstein Reveals Trump Had Sex With A 15 Year Old Sex Slave


That it would disappear in the news cycle in a couple days? That Donald could survive that? You’ve called me an idiot and stupid all throughout this thread for some reason, I’m not sure if I’ve personally done something to you or what but you seem to have a very negative focus on me.

What did I say that is wrong and idiotic?

Hold on, you don’t think the Donald nailed underage girls? The guy pervs on his own daughter and hung out in pageant dressing rooms with naked underage girls.

His base would move right past it by saying he has since found Jesus and all is forgiven. Pence would be on his knees begging to say it.

 

[brycejones]

We all must have missed them, what were those reasons? To me it reeks of a hit to keep him from talking. But what are the reasons you that you think otherwise?

Your actual evidence beyond your feels for it being a hit is?

 

[Vic]

Clinton Derangement Syndrome.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

We all must have missed them, what were those reasons? To me it reeks of a hit to keep him from talking. But what are the reasons you that you think otherwise?

Let me ask you this. Why didn’t he get taken out the last time? Why were they so willing to take the chance then but not now? Why did they let him live another decade to be snatched again? Why didn’t take him when it would have been so damn easy to do?

 

[UglyCasanova]

It’s stupid because any of the people who might have actually had a reason have had ample opportunity before now to do it. Who waits until he is locked up in a prison? It’s absurd. So they weren’t worried at all a decade ago but now they are terrified?

If any of the power people wanted him dead he would have been dead long ago. When it was easy.

He wasn’t needed dead till now. Strings were pulled last time in Florida (see the Miami Herald article I posted) so they got out of that. The world is focused on him now and he was about to reveal all. The pressure was on and they needed to prevent it. My thoughts on possible why, may it may not be close.

 

[woolfe9998]

We all must have missed them, what were those reasons? To me it reeks of a hit to keep him from talking. But what are the reasons you that you think otherwise?

For crying out loud dude, I've given the reasons multiple times in this thread, many times in direct response to your own posts so you have no excuse for asking me for them again. There is no good evidence that either man had sex with any of Epstein's victims, and even if they did, Epstein simply wasn't a threat to them. They didn't have a reason to do it. That in and of itself is more than sufficient.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Clinton Derangement Syndrome.

Trump is possibly implicated too, it effects both parties

 

[MomentsofSanity]

He wasn’t needed dead till now. Strings were pulled last time in Florida (see the Miami Herald article I posted) so they got out of that. The world is focused on him now and he was about to reveal all. The pressure was on and they needed to prevent it. My thoughts on possible why, may it may not be close.

Well shit so they just figured meh he won’t talk. We’re all just fine. But now it’s panic mode? Gotcha.

That’s absurdly naive.

 

[dank69]

We all must have missed them, what were those reasons? To me it reeks of a hit to keep him from talking. But what are the reasons you that you think otherwise?

That's another big fat red X. You are a waste of people's time.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Hold on, you don’t think the Donald nailed underage girls?

Where did I say that?

 

[amenx]

Please correct me if I am wrong... did Epstein offer ANY evidence that may be threatening to his VIP friends or clients? Was he under ANY pressure to do so? Would he have ANY motivation to do so? Did any prosecutor plea-bargain with him to where it would result in his sentence to be meaningfully reduced for a 66 year old man? In short, Epstein had no compelling reason to offer any damaging info that may hurt his friends or clients. His time in the slammer was going to be until his dying breath whether he talked or not! So why would he talk?

I doubt any of Epsteins friends who could be implicated were worried about anything he might say, but rather more worried about what his underage victims would say (and have said).. THAT is their real concern to this day. Therefore all these conspiracy theories about his death sound ridiculous.