Jeff Sessions has just resigned

[Maxima1]

I sure he isn't going to play politics at all.

Bullshit. He did. The American people had a right to know a leeeeetle bit more about Trump-Russia before the midterms. Only a Republican or a feckless Democrat would have waited until right after the midterms to surprise everyone.

 

[skull]

Yeah, to be honest..I'm not really sure either. Honestly I have a cynical view of this to begin with...

Everyone knew this was coming. But I'm not sure Mueller can do anything to stop Whitaker from hamstringing him. He can just cut his budget, deny him subpoenas, etc. You probably won't hear Mueller publicly complain. I doubt he would even make copies of investigative records so that Whitaker cannot destroy them. That might be illegal in his mind.

Mueller isn't going to be some secret left wing superhero. He is a standard Republican. He believes in the rule of law, but he isn't going to break any DOJ rules or go out of his way to get Trump. He isn't going to hide records in a personal safe somewhere so that the Democrats can subpoena them or hold a press conference when Whitaker refuses indictments. I sure he isn't going to play politics at all.

Will Whitaker or his replacement do all that? Maybe. Maybe not. I doubt we'll find out until months or years later. And, to be honest. it's possible that Mueller was ever going to matter. In a normal functioning political system, he might have. But what should be clear to all now is that this is just a knife fight. From the way it looks like now...No GOP'er is going to protect Mueller, much less take action based on Mueller's report. I just don't think Mueller is going to indict the President. He will make a report, maybe. I'm going to prepare myself for that type of outcome now. I hope I'm wrong

I got faith he'll be an American hero and stand up for what he thinks is right. If hes finding some treasonous actions from the president I think he'll do what he needs to do to bring it to light.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I’m genuinely curious as to why people keep saying it needs to hurry up. By special counsel standards it is moving at light speed.

Why not just say it’s done when it’s done? Isn’t that the right answer?

I propose a compromise. Let's go by other investigations. One on Bill Clinton lasted 2,978 days. I'd limit an unimpeded Mueller investigation to 2,977.

 

[Jhhnn]

Bullshit. He did. The American people had a right to know a leeeeetle bit more about Trump-Russia before the midterms. Only a Republican or a feckless Democrat would have waited until right after the midterms to surprise everyone.

Mueller sought to avoid any hint of partisan bias. Or he may just not have been ready to say anything. Tearing him down makes no sense other than to denigrate the investigation & soften up Mueller as Trump's target.

 

[Maxima1]

Mueller sought to avoid any hint of partisan bias. Or he may just not have been ready to say anything. Tearing him down makes no sense other than to denigrate the investigation & soften up Mueller as Trump's target.

And that's BS considering he's a Republican. So either way it could be seen as a biased decision. More importantly, Trump supporters will latch onto any little bullshit (e.g. look at the Strzok idiocy), and Mueller would have gained a lot of leverage from striking fear into congressional Republicans had the midterms went worse for them.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Bullshit. He did. The American people had a right to know a leeeeetle bit more about Trump-Russia before the midterms. Only a Republican or a feckless Democrat would have waited until right after the midterms to surprise everyone.

you are well aware of the DOJ policy regarding investigative information and elections, correct? then you know that if mueller did not follow that policy, trump and repubs would scream bloody murder and cry foul about how it's all a big inside job to topple them.

as much as people deserve to know (and we do), waiting to release any additional information until after midterms was absolutely the right choice to make.

 

[Maxima1]

you are well aware of the DOJ policy regarding investigative information and elections, correct? then you know that if mueller did not follow that policy, trump and repubs would scream bloody murder and cry foul about how it's all a big inside job to topple them.

as much as people deserve to know (and we do), waiting to release any additional information until after midterms was absolutely the right choice to make.

It's not codified. It's most relevant to someone running, which didn't apply. You can use judgment, which obviously this case is much different than usual, especially with Congress actively obstructing for Trump (they literally got rewarded for doing so by observing this guideline). Sorry, but we shouldn't be concerned with bullshit from Republicans when they clearly loved the Comey decision. We all know if the shoe was on the other foot, they wouldn't give a rat's ass about some guideline that's not even codified. They already abuse the oversight duties of Congress whenever the Democrats are in power.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/09/poli...check-mueller-investigation-russia/index.html

But is the 60-day custom a firm rule?

No. In fact, as the Justice Department's internal watchdog recently noted in a report about the 2016 election: "The 60-Day Rule is not written or described in any Department policy or regulation. Nevertheless, high-ranking Department and FBI officials acknowledged the existence of a general practice that informs Department decisions."

Ray Hulser, former section chief of the department's Public Integrity Section who now serves as a deputy assistant attorney general in the Criminal Division, told the Department of Justice Inspector General's Office that while working on one of the Election Year Sensitivities memos, "they considered codifying the substance of the 60-Day Rule, but that they rejected that approach as unworkable."

"Hulser told OIG that a prosecutor should look to the needs of the case and significant investigative steps should be taken 'when the case is ready, not earlier or later,' " according to the inspector general's report. "He said that there is not any such specific rule, and there never has been, but that there is a general admonition that politics should play no role in investigative decisions."

The controversy over former FBI Director James Comey's public announcements concerning the investigation of Hillary Clinton's handling of classified information before the 2016 presidential election highlighted the stakes involved in such decisions.

Even though Trump isn't on the ballot in November, Mueller may still adhere to the general custom of avoiding publicly revealing investigative steps near election time that could wait. But there is no firm rule preventing him from filing charges or taking other action if it cannot wait until after the election.

 

[Jhhnn]

And that's BS considering he's a Republican. So either way it could be seen as a biased decision. More importantly, Trump supporters will latch onto any little bullshit (e.g. look at the Strzok idiocy), and Mueller would have gained a lot of leverage from striking fear into congressional Republicans had the midterms went worse for them.

"Could be seen as a biased decision" constitutes weasel words. You should know that tearing down Mueller just paves the way for Trump to fire him.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I got faith he'll be an American hero and stand up for what he thinks is right. If hes finding some treasonous actions from the president I think he'll do what he needs to do to bring it to light.

I agree but it really depends on the crime. I doubt he’d make waves over minor financial offenses provided that is all that exists and it’s not like a crime boss going away for tax evasion.
I do think if there is over the top Russian collusion he’d leak it.

Just a guesstimate

 

[blackangst1]

I love Trump's comment "I retired him" lmao

 

[Maxima1]

"Could be seen as a biased decision" constitutes weasel words. You should know that tearing down Mueller just paves the way for Trump to fire him.

Let me put it another way. If there was a 20% chance of some really bad shit happening, would you round that probability to zero? Because that was the probability of Republicans keeping the House, or doing extremely well in the Senate to the point where there's little to no path to Senate control in 2020. I'm a utilitarian kind of guy. That kind of outcome totally outweighs concern for what the Republicans would think. It's simply irresponsible.

 

[Jhhnn]

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Let me put it another way. If there was a 20% chance of some really bad shit happening, would you round that probability to zero? Because that was the probability of Republicans keeping the House, or doing extremely well in the Senate to the point where there's little to no path to Senate control in 2020. I'm a utilitarian kind of guy. That kind of outcome totally outweighs concern for what the Republicans would think. It's simply irresponsible.

It's about what everybody would think. Mueller just plays by the rules, tries to stay out of partisan politics altogether.

 

[Maxima1]

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It's about what everybody would think. Mueller just plays by the rules, tries to stay out of partisan politics altogether.

And again -- it's bullshit. He's a Republican. It's just like the bullshit from Comey. Whether they're consciously aware of it is another thing, but the thought process can only come from establishmentesque Democrats like Chris Coons or a Republican.

 

[Sunburn74]

And again -- it's bullshit. He's a Republican. It's just like the bullshit from Comey. Whether they're consciously aware of it is another thing, but the thought process can only come from establishmentesque Democrats like Chris Coons or a Republican.

There is a possibility that mueller is a partisan but think about it another way. Assuming he has dirt that can truly get trump impeached, do you think he would pass on the chance to be enshrined in the history books forever as some sort of American hero who took down a corrupt president that was being manipulated by russia?
See that's the thing that people forget. There's a reason why certain people take certain thankless jobs: those jobs have a shot at eternal glory.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Session's replacement.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/matth...e-bona-fides-to-tout-scam-business?ref=scroll

 

[nickqt]

Session's replacement.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/matth...e-bona-fides-to-tout-scam-business?ref=scroll

The best people, tired of winning, etc, etc.

 

[BUTCH1]

Session's replacement.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/matth...e-bona-fides-to-tout-scam-business?ref=scroll

Thanks, and WOW what a D-bag, bilking people out of their life savings to promote their inventions.

 

[BUTCH1]

Snowflakes will run to their safe spaces, just by looking at this big corn fed white hulking male. I'm sure they're seeing a skin head in this guy already. lol

His physical appearance is 100% irrelevant, what IS relevant is normally the DAG would be next in line for the AG spot if the incumbent quit or was fired, Trump choosing a boot-licking loyalist is quite telling. Sessions failed to protect his "master" from the investigation so he's gone and replaced with someone who possibly will.

 

[Jhhnn]

And again -- it's bullshit. He's a Republican. It's just like the bullshit from Comey. Whether they're consciously aware of it is another thing, but the thought process can only come from establishmentesque Democrats like Chris Coons or a Republican.

That's ridiculous. Mueller is no partisan. I believe his dedication to the rule of Law transcends that.

 

[Maxima1]

That's ridiculous. Mueller is no partisan. I believe his dedication to the rule of Law transcends that.

This is the crap people always want to believe, but it's reality. I find it weird that you think concern over faux outrage the Republicans would have outweigh everything else. Look, I'm a utilitarian guy. A decision like that is devoid of sense.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-ward-kennedy-retirement-20180629-story.html

 

[Paratus]

Some of you guys need to read up on Mueller. He’s a legitimate war hero, very dedicated and competent and is known as exceptionally by the book.

According to a coworker the least by the book thing they saw him do in the three years they worked together was have two twizzlers after lunch.

His competence should be obvious. No grandstanding like Ken Starr. The only time he breaks radio silence is to drop indictments. It’s also obvious his intent is to keep the investigation as free from politics as possible.

The only two times he’s broken radio silence that wasn’t for an indictment was when he dropped Strzok for appearance of impropriety months before it became a a congressional issue and when he was about to be framed for sex crimes.

The last point is by remaining silent he doesn’t give anyone an easy target to attack. In fact I think of all of Trumps antagonists Mueller has had the most effective rebuttals to his attacks by simply staying out of the media.

So if you are expecting him to go after Trump as a partisan democrat would you’re going to be disappointed. However if Mueller hadn’t found anything this would have been over in two weeks.

 

[UNCjigga]

So who's the next Republican whose long illustrious career Trump can destroy next? My money's on Lindsay Graham...but McConnell would be more of a challenge. You can do it Trump!!

 

[FIVR]

So who's the next Republican whose long illustrious career Trump can destroy next? My money's on Lindsay Graham...but McConnell would be more of a challenge. You can do it Trump!!

Graham is the obvious choice. It's only fair since he gave that glorious job interview during the Kavanaugh hearings.

 

[Maxima1]

Some of you guys need to read up on Mueller. He’s a legitimate war hero, very dedicated and competent and is known as exceptionally by the book.

According to a coworker the least by the book thing they saw him do in the three years they worked together was have two twizzlers after lunch.

His competence should be obvious. No grandstanding like Ken Starr. The only time he breaks radio silence is to drop indictments. It’s also obvious his intent is to keep the investigation as free from politics as possible.

The only two times he’s broken radio silence that wasn’t for an indictment was when he dropped Strzok for appearance of impropriety months before it became a a congressional issue and when he was about to be framed for sex crimes.

The last point is by remaining silent he doesn’t give anyone an easy target to attack. In fact I think of all of Trumps antagonists Mueller has had the most effective rebuttals to his attacks by simply staying out of the media.

So if you are expecting him to go after Trump as a partisan democrat would you’re going to be disappointed. However if Mueller hadn’t found anything this would have been over in two weeks.

He's going by a guideline that allows judgment. The decision to wait is devoid of any common sense considering how corrupted the Republicans are acting. He's also a Republican, so your last portion is nonsensical. The partisan decision for someone like him would be to wait. Do you feel the same about Rosenstein,by the way? He was a Federalist Society member. That means he wanted to see the highest court take a hard right. I don't trust anyone like that, and I can't take anyone who votes Republican too seriously either.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ce92d02a2024

There is indeed a Justice Department policy against taking significant prosecutorial actions in the weeks leading up to an election if those actions might influence the election’s outcome. But this is not a formal rule written down anywhere , nor has it been mandated by a court or by Congress. It’s variously referred to as a “norm,” “tradition” or “custom” within the department. And there’s not always agreement about what exactly the policy means or when it should apply.

 

[cytg111]

Don't see the news reporting this. Source?

Its just for the record so I can say "called it" later... its on twitter ala "sources tell me Rosenstein will resign within 48 hours"... Lets see...