Jay Leno test drives new police Interceptor.

[LTC8K6]

What's the top speed of the Vic? 135mph? How often is the average highway patrol office involved in a chase at that speed?

The top speed of the Vic is in the report...

Well, I give up. This sort of logic is obviously too much for me.

 

[Throckmorton]

TOP SPEED IS MEANINGLESS WHEN IT TAKES FOREVER TO GET THERE. Also, you seem to have this hangup about top speed being sufficient - you know what? If the CVPI had the exact same top speed (or even 10mph less) but would GET THERE fifteen seconds quicker, I'd be thrilled.

Is that clear enough for you?

I've never come close to top speed on a CVPI. I have, however, put my foot to the floor and wished it would actually move.

If accelerating too quickly is illegal, why is it OK for you to accelerate quickly? Aren't you endangering other drivers? Or is it really about quotas and not safety?
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1988786

Oh yeah, and why is it OK for cops to put their lights on to go through stop lights? I used to see that all the time in Houston.

 

[jlee]

If accelerating too quickly is illegal, why is it OK for you to accelerate quickly?

🙄

Some people are not worth even taking the time to argue with because their sole intention is to stir the pot, not to actually learn anything. You are one of those people.

 

[satyajitmenon]

Hmm. If cops had to follow speed limits even when they were chasing the baddies, would be kinda pointless having cops, wouldn't it? :hmm:

 

[ShawnD1]

YOU said...



and he asked for proof. You have yet to do so.

I don't think you understand what "right of way" is. The fire truck has the right of way and the law requires you to yield. You not getting out of the way means it's your fault because you failed to yield to an emergency vehicle. Pushing vehicles rarely happens but it's usually related to parked cars.

 

[jlee]

I don't think you understand what "right of way" is. The fire truck has the right of way and the law requires you to yield. You not getting out of the way means it's your fault because you failed to yield to an emergency vehicle.

Not necessarily.

NH RSA 265:8: Emergency Vehicles
This paragraph shall not relieve the driver of an authorized emergency vehicle from the duty to drive with due regard for the safety of all persons using the highway, nor from the duty to exercise due care to avoid colliding with any pedestrian.

 

[alkemyst]

I think ShawnD1 just makes shit up he thinks would be right.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I think it's fucking hilarious that people are arguing with a cop who actually drives these things AND knows the law.

The Internet. It's full of armchair experts.™

 

[ShawnD1]

Not necessarily.

The paragraph you quoted just means the driver is expected to drive safely. He has the right of way, but that doesn't mean he's allowed to blow through red lights at full speed.
An analogy would be if you see a car stalled in the middle of the intersection and you have plenty of time to avoid hitting it, having the right of way does not mean you're allowed to intentionally cause a car crash.

Moving vehicles out of the way must be done in accordance with what you quoted. Vehicles can be gently pushed out of the way if it is necessary and if it is safe. Pushing vehicles that have people in them is where safety gets really sketchy because one could argue that doing that in itself is dangerous. Parked cars can be pushed because there's nobody in the car.


What's interesting is when this type of law is used
http://www.wbaltv.com/news/24249259/detail.html

(a fire truck accidentally hit some parked cars due to icy roads and peopled tried to get the city to take responsibility for the damages)

After their efforts, the women received another letter from the city that read, in part, "It has been determined the mayor and City Council are not responsible for your damages."

According to the letter, the decision is "based on Maryland case law that states that sliding and or skidding on a wet, icy and/or snow covered roadway is not by itself evidence of negligence."

What jlee quoted said emergency drivers can't drive like negligent retards (this is the law pretty much everywhere). Maryland law says that ice on the road does not count as negligent driving. So the fire truck has the right of way, it accidentally hit a ton of cars due to bad road conditions, and state law says that bad road conditions do not count as negligence. As a result, all of the claims reviewed have been rejected and it's up to drivers to talk to their own insurance companies.
Lesson to learn from this: getting hit by a fire truck is ALWAYS your fault. Even if your car is parked and they're smashing it, it's still your fault.

 

[Throckmorton]

🙄

Some people are not worth even taking the time to argue with because their sole intention is to stir the pot, not to actually learn anything. You are one of those people.

Yes, I'm stirring the pot, because cops are full of crap. A lot of traffic laws exist for no reason other than revenue, and acceleration restrictions are among those. If you really think people should be ticketed for fast acceleration, you shouldn't be doing it yourself.

It's surreal that you tell us we shouldn't speed, accelerate fast, or take corners faster than the minimum defined by the capabilities of a cement truck-- yet you act like it's perfectly normal to want a 380 horsepower AWD sport sedan "interceptor".


And by that same token, why is Jay Leno advocating running from the police?

 

[Throckmorton]

I think it's fucking hilarious that people are arguing with a cop who actually drives these things AND knows the law.

The Internet. It's full of armchair experts.™

Did you know that it's illegal in Texas for cops to violate traffic laws, just like it is for other drivers?

 

[ShawnD1]

And by that same token, why is Jay Leno advocating running from the police?

Because Jay Leno thinks the speed of your car is what helps you get away. If those annoying police shows on Fox have shown us anything, it's that your car cannot outrun a police radio.

 

[Throckmorton]

Because Jay Leno thinks the speed of your car is what helps you get away. If those annoying police shows on Fox have shown us anything, it's that your car cannot outrun a police radio.

It's ridiculous. Obviously hes joking, but IMO the assumption inherent in his joke is that running from the police is normal to some degree.

It's like how in Hawaii Five-0 they don't wear seatbelts. Seriously? In the year 2010? Everybody has moved past the "no seatbelts is cool" thing, and all you're doing is advocating something dangerous.

 

[ShawnD1]

It's like how in Hawaii Five-0 they don't wear seatbelts. Seriously? In the year 2010? Everybody has moved past the "no seatbelts is cool" thing, and all you're doing is advocating something dangerous.

lol. Do you mean they don't show the actors put on seat belts when they get in the car or do you mean the camera shows them driving and it's obvious that neither person is wearing a seatbelt?

That almost seems like something that would be in a comedy show.

 

[Throckmorton]

The camera shows them driving, not wearing seatbelts. They also don't wear helmets to ride motorcycles.

 

[thepd7]

The camera shows them driving, not wearing seatbelts. They also don't wear helmets to ride motorcycles.

lol you are all over the place. Stay on topic please.



I only made it through a few minutes, Jay Leno was even more annoying not using a script.

 

[jlee]

The paragraph you quoted just means the driver is expected to drive safely. He has the right of way, but that doesn't mean he's allowed to blow through red lights at full speed.
An analogy would be if you see a car stalled in the middle of the intersection and you have plenty of time to avoid hitting it, having the right of way does not mean you're allowed to intentionally cause a car crash.

Are you seriously trying to explain to me how the law regarding emergency vehicles works in my state?

/facepalm

 

[jlee]

Yes, I'm stirring the pot, because cops are full of crap. A lot of traffic laws exist for no reason other than revenue, and acceleration restrictions are among those. If you really think people should be ticketed for fast acceleration, you shouldn't be doing it yourself.

It's surreal that you tell us we shouldn't speed, accelerate fast, or take corners faster than the minimum defined by the capabilities of a cement truck-- yet you act like it's perfectly normal to want a 380 horsepower AWD sport sedan "interceptor".


And by that same token, why is Jay Leno advocating running from the police?

Next time you're going to a bank alarm, you just let me know. Until then, STFU.

And it's 365, not 380. Sheesh.

 

[alkalinetaupehat]

I think it's fucking hilarious that people are arguing with a cop who actually drives these things AND knows the law.

The Internet. It's full of armchair experts.™

Sigged for truth!

 

[alkemyst]

Did you know that it's illegal in Texas for cops to violate traffic laws, just like it is for other drivers?

It's illegal in all states EXCEPT when responding to a 'code 3' or whatever that area calls it.

You are clueless.

 

[ShawnD1]

Are you seriously trying to explain to me how the law regarding emergency vehicles works in my state?

/facepalm

You don't live in Maryland :ninja: