Jay Leno returning to Tonight Show, Conan gets the boot.

[KeithTalent]

Wow- all that makeup that Jay wears must have been covering up the redness. Ugh, that was almost hard to watch.

Lol, wow. That was brutally awesome! :awe:

KT

 

[zinfamous]

Huge fail, Kevin Eubanks Jay's band leader is funnier than Conan. Hell kick Jay the curb and let Kevin host the show. He admits to smoking weed, he admits to watching porn and has pretty good timing with his off the head comments. Conan is one of the least funny people I've ever seen. He's only a step above Elen in the hilarity factor. And Ellen isn't funny.

Better idea yet, shit can both of them and give the 11:35 slot to Aisha Tyler. She's more funny then either and is beautiful to boot.

Ellen is not only one of the sharpest comediennes in decades, but a top-tier comedian. You'd be hard-pressed to find a top comedian that doesn't recognize her talent and skill. She's been doing it for 3 decades now. Hell, she's probably funnier than all of the talk show hosts.

you sound more and more like a humorless grumpy old man, completely out of touch with the world around you.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Ellen is not only one of the sharpest comediennes in decades, but a top-tier comedian. You'd be hard-pressed to find a top comedian that doesn't recognize her talent and skill. She's been doing it for 3 decades now. Hell, she's probably funnier than all of the talk show hosts.

you sound more and more like a humorless grumpy old man, completely out of touch with the world around you.

fail. Women aren't funny.

 

[AmdInside]

Ellen is funny as a stand up but her talk show is lame. And I've never seen a white person who dances worse than Ellen. I like Conan and Jay but if I had to choose, it would be Conan. I can't stand Letterman.

 

[Platypus]

No matter where you stand on this (because it really doesn't matter in the end) you have to admit that NBC fucked itself hard by looking for the short term gains. The long term losses of this decision will last far, far longer.

NBC made two gambles and lost both of them.

 

[KeithTalent]

Huge fail, Kevin Eubanks Jay's band leader is funnier than Conan. Hell kick Jay the curb and let Kevin host the show. He admits to smoking weed, he admits to watching porn and has pretty good timing with his off the head comments. Conan is one of the least funny people I've ever seen. He's only a step above Elen in the hilarity factor. And Ellen isn't funny.

Better idea yet, shit can both of them and give the 11:35 slot to Aisha Tyler. She's more funny then either and is beautiful to boot.

I've been watching late night since I was a kid. As I said before the only time Leno has been good was when he was doing stand-up and when he was filling in for Carson, but heck, even Carson didn't like Leno, he wanted Letterman in there.

I have turned on Leno a few times over the years, just to see if anything had changed and maybe he had gotten better, but no, there is nothing he does that is funny. Please, post some clips from that support what you say.

I watched Conan from the very beginning of his show way back when and it was brutal for the first while, just as Fallon is brutal right now, until he eventually found his audience and his comfort zone and he became the funniest show on late night, even surpassing Letterman since he had grown complacent. The problem is with Conan moving to The Tonight Show, he was effectively neutered and he cannot be good when pandering to somebody else's audience, he needs to be free and relaxed like he was on his old show.

Anyway, a similar thing seems to be happening now with Letterman in the tank, Conan in limbo, and Leno doing his same old crap. The newer guys are gaining momenting and doing better stuff (Kimmel and Ferguson, Ferguson easily being my favourite) to grab the younger audiences.

I just wonder why there is not a talk show hosted by a black man in late night, particularly considering how much a lot of the black culture has permeated society, particularly in the younger demos the advertisers would be drooling over. It really strikes me as odd. Arsenio did it back in the day and did it very well and I see no reason why something like that could not be replicated now. Something different than white man behind a desk.

Agreed that Aisha Tyler is smoking hot.

KT

 

[QueBert]

Ellen is not only one of the sharpest comediennes in decades, but a top-tier comedian. You'd be hard-pressed to find a top comedian that doesn't recognize her talent and skill. She's been doing it for 3 decades now. Hell, she's probably funnier than all of the talk show hosts.

you sound more and more like a humorless grumpy old man, completely out of touch with the world around you.

you know who else has been around forever and is considered to be a sharp comedienne? Paula Poundstone. If you're basing it strictly off Ellen's stand up skill, I can simply say Jay has been doing stand up just as long, and is just as highly regarded when it comes to it. Ellen's show is horrible, and I find her stand up to be about on par with Paula Poundstone. The "world around me" likes Britteny Spears, Justin Beber & are the reason Carson Daily is still on the air. If that's the world around me, I'm glad I'm not in touch with it. I find humor in humor, Richard Pryor was funny, Red Foxx was funny, George Carlin was funny. Conan is the polar opposite of what I find funny. People who find him funny should question their own ability to understand humor.

 

[dennilfloss]

Quite a few times since I still find it funny.

The fun thing about Conan is that he's perfectly willing to rip on himself and do more crazy things. It's akin to Chris Farley. Conan doesn't take himself as seriously, thus, he's able to come off as more genuine and funny. I personally think he's like Letterman used to be, who was somewhat more like Carson.

Leno, on the other hand, is merely just a sedate comedian with mediocre jokes and guests.

I've never found the insulting dog to be funny. Maybe because I'm a cat person. In the year 200 wasn't bad.

 

[dennilfloss]

I wonder what Wanda Sykes will say during her show tomorrow. She's a friend of Jay but she's also at Fox, where Conan might land. Got the feeling she'll tear into Conan.

 

[Kirby]

Ellen is not only one of the sharpest comediennes in decades, but a top-tier comedian. You'd be hard-pressed to find a top comedian that doesn't recognize her talent and skill. She's been doing it for 3 decades now. Hell, she's probably funnier than all of the talk show hosts.

you sound more and more like a humorless grumpy old man, completely out of touch with the world around you.

The only thing good about Ellen is Portia De Rossi.

 

[Deeko]

Huge fail, Kevin Eubanks Jay's band leader is funnier than Conan. Hell kick Jay the curb and let Kevin host the show. He admits to smoking weed, he admits to watching porn and has pretty good timing with his off the head comments. Conan is one of the least funny people I've ever seen. He's only a step above Elen in the hilarity factor. And Ellen isn't funny.

Better idea yet, shit can both of them and give the 11:35 slot to Aisha Tyler. She's more funny then either and is beautiful to boot.

Wow, big surprise, QueBert wants Kevin Eubanks or Aisha Tyler to host the Tonight Show. I mean, that doesn't fit the stereotype he's set for himself at all. Color me shocked!

 

[NFS4]

Huge fail, Kevin Eubanks Jay's band leader is funnier than Conan. Hell kick Jay the curb and let Kevin host the show. He admits to smoking weed, he admits to watching porn and has pretty good timing with his off the head comments. Conan is one of the least funny people I've ever seen. He's only a step above Elen in the hilarity factor. And Ellen isn't funny.

Better idea yet, shit can both of them and give the 11:35 slot to Aisha Tyler. She's more funny then either and is beautiful to boot.

I can give you one good reason why even Max Weinberg > Kevin: Max on Max. Or better yet, Joel on Joel with Joel watching

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STYsEXiuruU

 

[dennilfloss]

Actually, I think they are both good bands but I prefer Jay's group. Never could stand Paul Shaffer on Letterman though.

 

[Fritzo]

Now, I am a fan of both Jay and Conan. Everyone is saying Leno is 'actually an asshole' in real life. I don't know him, and neither do any of you, so you should not make accusations like that. I think he seems like a nice guy after watching him for years on TV and seeing him on Jay Leno's Garage. I think it's a bit unfair to put all of the blame on him. He didn't want to leave the Tonight Show, but rather NBC wanted Conan to take over it. Jay did what anyone would have done in the same situation, taken another job to keep doing what he loves. He was forced out by NBC. His ratings (and Tonight Show's) have suffered, so this is probably when Jay told NBC "See? That's what you get for shoving me out". He deserved to keep the Tonight Show, as in my opinion, it's rightfully his show. Conan just unfortunately got caught up in this mess. Yes, there was a 5 year notice, and because of this, I do see where all the drama is coming from. I think 5 years ago, NBC told Jay you either leave now, or we'll give you a few more years before we shove you out.

I feel bad for both Jay and Conan, and I hope something works out for them both. I hope Conan goes to Fox and takes the top spot battle. I hope Jay return to Tonight Show, apologizes for all the mayhem, and continue on.

OK, just to set the record straight, I don't think Leno is an ass at all. I think he's actually the nicest friendliest guy around. I read an article where he got a letter about a kid that promised his friends he would drive up in a Lamborginni to impress them because he wanted to be liked, and Jay drove one of his to the boys home town and drove him to school.

Also, when doing stand up gigs, he frequently stops his limo and talks to people on street corners that notice him and want an autograph/picture.

Does that sound like an ass to you? Me neither.

Now, what I DO think he is is gutless. Jay doesn't wish harm on anyone- it's not in his personality. BUT he can't say no---the NBC jerk Darth Zucker is telling him what to do to make up for his terrible mistakes. Instead of saying "You know...my show didn't work out, I don't want to kick someone else off the air, so I'll leave", he's doing exactly what he's told. Conan has the balls to say NO!, but Jay says "Yes sir."

 

[KeithTalent]

Now, what I DO think he is is gutless. Jay doesn't wish harm on anyone- it's not in his personality. BUT he can't say no---the NBC jerk Darth Zucker is telling him what to do to make up for his terrible mistakes. Instead of saying "You know...my show didn't work out, I don't want to kick someone else off the air, so I'll leave", he's doing exactly what he's told. Conan has the balls to say NO!, but Jay says "Yes sir."

Exactly. Jay just wants everyone to love him, but he ends up coming across as a gutless dick because he is just letting Zucker lead him around on a leash, Zucker is the real fuck-up.

KT

 

[zinfamous]

Max Weinberg is, by far, the most talented band leader of all the late night bands. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

that, and he's funnier, willing to do just about anything on the show.

 

[QueBert]

Wow, big surprise, QueBert wants Kevin Eubanks or Aisha Tyler to host the Tonight Show. I mean, that doesn't fit the stereotype he's set for himself at all. Color me shocked!

Sorry I want a *funny* person to host a show that should be hosted by a *funny* person. If it makes you feel any better I'll mention some white people who are also funnier than Conan and could replace either him or Jay. Lisa Lamponelli, Patton Oswald & Jeffery Ross. There are you happy? Now what fucking excuse are you going to come up with to color yourself shocked?

Max Weinberg is, by far, the most talented band leader of all the late night bands. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

that, and he's funnier, willing to do just about anything on the show.

Ahmir "?uestlove" Thompson is a better drummer than Max, and is an equal if not better band leader. Plus the Roots band shits all over the Max Weinberg 7 ability wise. Max is a good sport for letting Conan always make an ass out of him though.

 

[Miramonti]

Conan's Craigslist ad selling the Tonight Show

 

[Xonoahbin]

Conan's Craigslist ad selling the Tonight Show

I really hope it's actually him doing that.. it would make it so immensely funny.

 

[Miramonti]

I really hope it's actually him doing that.. it would make it so immensely funny.

Yep, he discussed it on the show last night. (I assume it was last nights show...probably too early probably to have been clip from today's.)

 

[zinfamous]

Ahmir "?uestlove" Thompson is a better drummer than Max, and is an equal if not better band leader. Plus the Roots band shits all over the Max Weinberg 7 ability wise. Max is a good sport for letting Conan always make an ass out of him though.

While I do like the Roots band and all, that is insane.

though I do think Patton Oswalt would make a damn good host--problem is that TV execs would NEVER but him in front of a camera.

I don't understand your love for Jeffrey Ross when you claim to detest Kimmel? They're pretty much the exact same person.

 

[zinfamous]

I really hope it's actually him doing that.. it would make it so immensely funny.

Buyer must honor Barry Manilow booking next Thursday

:awe:

 

[her209]

Max Weinberg is, by far, the most talented band leader of all the late night bands. It's ridiculous to think otherwise.

that, and he's funnier, willing to do just about anything on the show.

Yeah, the Triumph the Insult Dog bit where Max was "naked" in some girl's tent at some festival and then runs out was hilarious.

 

[Ns1]

Fail. Conan is funnier than Jay by about three thousand leagues! What the hell does Jay do that is funny? Nothing, that's what.

KT

We'll have to agree to disagree

 

[Fritzo]

I really hope it's actually him doing that.. it would make it so immensely funny.

It is him- he said it on the show:

http://mashable.com/2010/01/15/conan-puts-the-tonight-show-for-sale-on-craigslist/

I replied saying I was interested in the band- are they skilled at maintaining topiary?