Jason Kidd traded to Dallas

[Safeway]

Damn, no more dealing cocaine to Stackhouse.

 

[newb111]

Originally posted by: trmiv
What's funny is the Lakers made a great trade giving up next to nothing for a 27 year old Gasol, but the Mavs and Suns have traded major pieces of their teams for their respective 35+ year old all-stars. Panic trades, both of them.

Not everyone can get a "gift" trade like that.

 

[fustercluck]

Didn't cuban just say yesterday they weren't going to trade for kidd? Ah well. NBA is pretty interesting this year. I bet Lebron is totally frustrated, and rightfully so.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: ropeadope
Didn't cuban just say yesterday they weren't going to trade for kidd? Ah well. NBA is pretty interesting this year. I bet Lebron is totally frustrated, and rightfully so.

Who cares about LeHype.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: ropeadope
Didn't cuban just say yesterday they weren't going to trade for kidd? Ah well. NBA is pretty interesting this year. I bet Lebron is totally frustrated, and rightfully so.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com...v=wshhdiq47dl5NxDYx9KD

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Can't believe we actually did this. I'd rather get rid of Howard than Harris, but that's just my opinion. We lost way too many players for Jason Kidd. WTF was Cuban thinking? Any two of those would equal a Kidd, but not 4.

really? Howard instead of Harris?

Yes. I'm not too sure about this season, but previously, Howard was putting up better numbers. I've just never really been impressed by his play...I think long term Harris is going to be better, but that's just my opinion from all the games I've seen him play.

so you'd rather give up maybe your best or 2nd best player who's a SF instead of your decent PG to get a top notch PG?

Harris is supposed to be the PG of the future, or was the intent when we signed him to an extension. I don't see Howard as the PG of the future, starter or not.

And Kidd is hardly a top notch PG anymore, not by a long shot.

Uh... Howard is a swingman, plays the 3. Plus, Harris is definitely overrated by Dallas coaches/etc. He just doesn't have a presence on the court to lead the team. ANd really, Dallas just didn't have a true leader. Now they do in Kidd.

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: ropeadope
Didn't cuban just say yesterday they weren't going to trade for kidd? Ah well. NBA is pretty interesting this year. I bet Lebron is totally frustrated, and rightfully so.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com...v=wshhdiq47dl5NxDYx9KD

You like linking to that site, don't you. 12

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
This is pretty much the rest of the WC admitting they can't compete with the Lakers for the next decade and they are gonna sell their souls to try and win it all this year or next.

Lakers have probably a few year window for a Championship. The up and rising Hornets will definitely challenge the Lakers in the future. Plus, Lakers will need to fork over a lot of money to resign/extend Bynum.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

I'm sure those four contracts amount to way more than what Kidd will be paid. Maybe Cuban was clearing space to bring in another star player.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: ropeadope
Didn't cuban just say yesterday they weren't going to trade for kidd? Ah well. NBA is pretty interesting this year. I bet Lebron is totally frustrated, and rightfully so.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com...v=wshhdiq47dl5NxDYx9KD

You like linking to that site, don't you. 12

Hey it just so happens that a lot of topics came about with videos related to them on that site - I didn't choose for that to happen

 

[newb111]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: Josh

Originally posted by: ropeadope
Didn't cuban just say yesterday they weren't going to trade for kidd? Ah well. NBA is pretty interesting this year. I bet Lebron is totally frustrated, and rightfully so.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com...v=wshhdiq47dl5NxDYx9KD

You like linking to that site, don't you. 12

Oh boy, the numbers are back.

 

[spanky]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
to be fair, Stackhouse will be bought out and the Mavs possibly can get him back. Kidd is a clear improvement over Harris, and honestly, Devean George is garbage. Brandon Bass is definitely improving, so while losing Diop hurts, Kidd changes everything. Now you have a starting lineup of Dirk, Howard, Jason Terry, Dampier, and Kidd, which is pretty damn impressive.

impressive starting five, but what's their bench like? can't expect the starters to play 48 mins every game... esp kidd.

 

[trmiv]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
This is pretty much the rest of the WC admitting they can't compete with the Lakers for the next decade and they are gonna sell their souls to try and win it all this year or next.

Lakers have probably a few year window for a Championship. The up and rising Hornets will definitely challenge the Lakers in the future. Plus, Lakers will need to fork over a lot of money to resign/extend Bynum.

Their window is much more than a few years. Kobe is still only 28, Gasol is 27, Bynum is 20. There will be no issue extending Bynum, I guarantee it. Dr Buss has always been willing to pay for superstars, especially young ones. Lakers, Blazers, and Hornets will be the teams to deal with in the West for a good period of time.

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: spanky

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
to be fair, Stackhouse will be bought out and the Mavs possibly can get him back. Kidd is a clear improvement over Harris, and honestly, Devean George is garbage. Brandon Bass is definitely improving, so while losing Diop hurts, Kidd changes everything. Now you have a starting lineup of Dirk, Howard, Jason Terry, Dampier, and Kidd, which is pretty damn impressive.

impressive starting five, but what's their bench like? can't expect the starters to play 48 mins every game... esp kidd.

Exactly and the TWO first round draft picks don't hurt the Nets at all either. Gives them a lot to build upon.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: spanky

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
to be fair, Stackhouse will be bought out and the Mavs possibly can get him back. Kidd is a clear improvement over Harris, and honestly, Devean George is garbage. Brandon Bass is definitely improving, so while losing Diop hurts, Kidd changes everything. Now you have a starting lineup of Dirk, Howard, Jason Terry, Dampier, and Kidd, which is pretty damn impressive.

impressive starting five, but what's their bench like? can't expect the starters to play 48 mins every game... esp kidd.

well, like usual you have barea who'll play backup to Kidd. And Kidd is durable, he'll play through pretty much any pain and plays a good number of minutes. Brandon Bass and Hassell, with Malik Allen coming in. And with the probable resigning of Stackhouse.

 

[fustercluck]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: ropeadope
Didn't cuban just say yesterday they weren't going to trade for kidd? Ah well. NBA is pretty interesting this year. I bet Lebron is totally frustrated, and rightfully so.

Who cares about LeHype.

You talking about the guy who got the Cleavland Cavaliers to the NBA finals by himself last year?

Lebron was a huge surprise in that he might actually better than he was originally hyped up to be.

Getting kinda off topic here...

 

[Josh]

Originally posted by: ropeadope

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: ropeadope
Didn't cuban just say yesterday they weren't going to trade for kidd? Ah well. NBA is pretty interesting this year. I bet Lebron is totally frustrated, and rightfully so.

Who cares about LeHype.

You talking about the guy who got the Cleavland Cavaliers to the NBA finals by himself last year?

Lebron was a huge surprise in that he might actually better than he was originally hyped up to be.

Gonna have to agree with that statement. He's playing like a freak.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: trmiv

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
This is pretty much the rest of the WC admitting they can't compete with the Lakers for the next decade and they are gonna sell their souls to try and win it all this year or next.

Lakers have probably a few year window for a Championship. The up and rising Hornets will definitely challenge the Lakers in the future. Plus, Lakers will need to fork over a lot of money to resign/extend Bynum.

Their window is much more than a few years. Kobe is still only 28, Gasol is 27, Bynum is 20. There will be no issue extending Bynum, I guarantee it. Dr Buss has always been willing to pay for superstars, especially young ones. Lakers, Blazers, and Hornets will be the teams to deal with in the West for a good period of time.

Well, yeah, no shit. Except Kobe, Gasol, Odom each are making like 15 mil/year, and Bynum will probably also command a maximum contract as well. That's a lot of money right there. I mean, I suppose you could try retain that same productive bench while shelling out 60 mil/year for 4 players, but then you're treading into Yankees territory, and paying that much, you'd better win a championship.

 

[Juno]

if the trade is confirmed before all star break, how will that affect kidd's all star status? is he gonna play for west?

 

[Shlong]

Originally posted by: ropeadope

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: ropeadope
Didn't cuban just say yesterday they weren't going to trade for kidd? Ah well. NBA is pretty interesting this year. I bet Lebron is totally frustrated, and rightfully so.

Who cares about LeHype.

You talking about the guy who got the Cleavland Cavaliers to the NBA finals by himself last year?

Lebron was a huge surprise in that he might actually better than he was originally hyped up to be.

Getting kinda off topic here...

People said the same thing about Jordan before he won a championship... not saying that Lebron is going to approach Jordan but I think he has lived up to the hype thus far.

As for the trade, if the 2 first rounder speculation is true than the Mavs got raped. I guess a lot of the WC teams are putting all their chips in this year to get a ring.

 

[ghost recon88]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/ne...08&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Kidd and Malik Allen will go to Dallas for 24-year-old point guard Devin Harris, Jerry Stackhouse, DeSagana Diop, Devean George, Maurice Ager, $3 million and two future No. 1 draft picks. In a side deal, the Nets sent guard Antoine Wright to Dallas for a future second-round pick.

Man Dallas lost a lot. 5 players, $3 million, two 1st round draft picks. All for Kidd and Allen, wow!

 

[Shlong]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: trmiv

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
This is pretty much the rest of the WC admitting they can't compete with the Lakers for the next decade and they are gonna sell their souls to try and win it all this year or next.

Lakers have probably a few year window for a Championship. The up and rising Hornets will definitely challenge the Lakers in the future. Plus, Lakers will need to fork over a lot of money to resign/extend Bynum.

Their window is much more than a few years. Kobe is still only 28, Gasol is 27, Bynum is 20. There will be no issue extending Bynum, I guarantee it. Dr Buss has always been willing to pay for superstars, especially young ones. Lakers, Blazers, and Hornets will be the teams to deal with in the West for a good period of time.

Well, yeah, no shit. Except Kobe, Gasol, Odom each are making like 15 mil/year, and Bynum will probably also command a maximum contract as well. That's a lot of money right there. I mean, I suppose you could try retain that same productive bench while shelling out 60 mil/year for 4 players, but then you're treading into Yankees territory, and paying that much, you'd better win a championship.

They would be approaching the Knicks salary level... except they would actually have a good team. And max contracts for younger players like Bynum isn't that close to those of the older veterans. Also they could try to trade Odom since they already have Bynum & Gasol.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Can't believe we actually did this. I'd rather get rid of Howard than Harris, but that's just my opinion. We lost way too many players for Jason Kidd. WTF was Cuban thinking? Any two of those would equal a Kidd, but not 4.

really? Howard instead of Harris?

Yes. I'm not too sure about this season, but previously, Howard was putting up better numbers. I've just never really been impressed by his play...I think long term Harris is going to be better, but that's just my opinion from all the games I've seen him play.

so you'd rather give up maybe your best or 2nd best player who's a SF instead of your decent PG to get a top notch PG?

Harris is supposed to be the PG of the future, or was the intent when we signed him to an extension. I don't see Howard as the PG of the future, starter or not.

And Kidd is hardly a top notch PG anymore, not by a long shot.

Uh... Howard is a swingman, plays the 3. Plus, Harris is definitely overrated by Dallas coaches/etc. He just doesn't have a presence on the court to lead the team. ANd really, Dallas just didn't have a true leader. Now they do in Kidd.

Oops my bad. You could be right about the overrated...I just don't care about Howard. (Harris might end up being like Marquis Daniels who faded into nothing) I don't think we're going to get *that* much better by adding Kidd.

 

[BrokenVisage]

WOW! The Mavs DID get raped.. which is a good thing of course. As much as I love Kidd, one of the few BBall players I genuinely appreciate and love to watch play anymore, the Mavs gave up way too much for him.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: Shlong

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: trmiv

Originally posted by: IAteYourMother

Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
This is pretty much the rest of the WC admitting they can't compete with the Lakers for the next decade and they are gonna sell their souls to try and win it all this year or next.

Lakers have probably a few year window for a Championship. The up and rising Hornets will definitely challenge the Lakers in the future. Plus, Lakers will need to fork over a lot of money to resign/extend Bynum.

Their window is much more than a few years. Kobe is still only 28, Gasol is 27, Bynum is 20. There will be no issue extending Bynum, I guarantee it. Dr Buss has always been willing to pay for superstars, especially young ones. Lakers, Blazers, and Hornets will be the teams to deal with in the West for a good period of time.

Well, yeah, no shit. Except Kobe, Gasol, Odom each are making like 15 mil/year, and Bynum will probably also command a maximum contract as well. That's a lot of money right there. I mean, I suppose you could try retain that same productive bench while shelling out 60 mil/year for 4 players, but then you're treading into Yankees territory, and paying that much, you'd better win a championship.

They would be approaching the Knicks salary level... except they would actually have a good team. And max contracts for younger players like Bynum isn't that close to those of the older veterans. Also they could try to trade Odom since they already have Bynum & Gasol.

I guess I take back what I said about the salary cap thing, but Odom will be pretty hard to trade.