Fuck you and fuck him too. He's the one that insulted me in German. That was the point of that post. He insulted me and I insulted him right back. I don't know or care who is grandmother is, no one has a right to insult anyone else.
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Japanese War Museum: Fact or Fiction?
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Fuck you and fuck him too. He's the one that insulted me in German. That was the point of that post. He insulted me and I insulted him right back. I don't know or care who is grandmother is, no one has a right to insult anyone else.
Yes, your first and main point of anger should be those who failed to protect you. The gov't will get its revenge but the people's anger should be directed at those they pay (via taxes) to defend them. If you are too stupid to understand this basis of government then you should get out of this thread.
nick1985
Lifer
Got it. I'm glad you cleared up any uncertaintly of whether or not you were dumb as a pile of shit.
Thanks :thumbsup:
irishScott
Lifer
It is. Elementary school was like that, but when high school came around we learned about the Massacre at Wounded Knee, the Long March of the Cherokee and other such stuff. Granted this was the honors/AP track in a Northern Virginia high school (some of the best public schools in the nation).
People like you are why government gets away with so much shit. Your vision of government is what you (supposedly) hate about individuals: no accountability or responsibility. lol, yet you are too dumb to see that, while your taxes are increasing, you want less and less to do with government. In the meantime others are sucking at its tits or exploiting it for all it's worth. But you complain loudly in places like this about your tax dollars feeding welfare (corporate or individual) whores. Whose the idiot, you or them?
It doesn't make sense to you? Figures cause you're too dumb to understand. Let me simplify it for you:
Nick1985: JHC, my taxes are going up. I pay too much taxes.
Nick1985: JHC, government is out of control and getting larger. I want nothing to do with this. I'm mad and I'm angry. I hate Big Government (TM).
Nick1985: (looks across the street). JHC, WTFBBQ, that unemployed mother of 8 just got a new plasma tv. WTFBBQ, that company just got its taxes lowered to zero. WTFBBQ, that invalid gets a monthly check from the SSA for life. Who's paying for all this shit?
Mother of 8, Company, Invalid (in unison): You are, Nick1985.
Nick1985: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC75aU47GRk
werepossum
Elite Member
That seems pretty reasonable to me, although they should do more to illustrate the magnitude of the slaughter. "Many" to me would not denote 250,000 to 300,000 slaughtered civilians in one single city. Our 12 year-olds are taught what we did to the Native Americans, but I don't know each event is quantified either, so I won't fault Japan for that.
I am aware that the Chinese government(s) did a piss poor job of protecting China and its citizens. They were definitely no saints.
Who do I blame? The invaders of course. While I may feel my own government failed to protect me and thus share some of the responsibility, it is asinine to suggest that responsibility is greater or even close to that of the ones who invaded and committed atrocities. Did the Americans directed all their anger at their own government and just forget about Al Qaeda? No they went to war over it.
Anyway looks like you are just going to continue to downplay and deflect the arguments, because for some reason you just don't seem to want to admit what Japan did was wrong no matter what. Though I gotta say trying to pin responsibility on the victims is pathetic. I hope no one wastes any more time on you.
WRT, 9/11, the government channeled public anger and went to war, then they exploited it by starting another way and letting the original war languish until we want to have nothing to do with it anymore. Funny how that works, right? If the people had kept their anger mostly on the government I'm sure we would've had better results.
Sorry if you see it as a deflection but, to me, defense of the homeland is an extremely basic tenet of government. If you cannot do it, you should not exist.
nick1985
Lifer
Nope, you dont make a lick of sense. This thread was about you apologizing for the Japanese for the Rape of Nanking, now you are trying to spin it into an attack on what you percieve to be my views on government size? How the fuck did we get from the Rape of Nanking to the size of government and tax rates?
Again, wipe off the foam fuckhead.
nick1985
Lifer
Should Kuwait not exist? Should Georgia not exist? How about 99% of countries that couldn't thwart an attack from a major power, should they all not exist?
What a silly fucking argument. Try again
You are really an idiot if you think countries have a "right" to exist. When nations go to war, it is to change the power structure. In some cases, certain countries cease to exist. This has happened throughout history and it will continue to happen. I'm surprised I have to explain these basic things to you. Did you get left behind in elementary school or something?
My other post was to point out the fact that you don't feel government is (or should be) responsible for certain basic things, like defending the homeland. Again, this is an extremely basic tenet of government yet you do not feel that it is responsible for doing that. Instead, you blame the invaders. Tell me, if your home is invaded do you not feel responsible to defend your family? If you fail will you put all the blame at the foot of the criminals or will you take responsibility for your impotence?
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Isn't it obvious? The answer was implied...
No, apparently it is how you debate. I said that the Japanese have made several government apologies for their activities. I made no mention of the specific city in my post.
Even if I mentioned Nanjing in my post, the list of statements I posted should still be applicable as many of them are broad to cover all of their activities.
No, I'm comparing the Japanese vs. British. Just because the British were much worse than the Japanese doesn't mean that the Japanese are excused.
They're difficult to compare, but you can look at many factors. Hundreds of millions, perhaps even billions, were slaughtered throughout centuries by the British. The Japanese had a very limited period of devastation, only decades. Much of the Japanese activity has little effect today. Much of the British activity still causes serious worldwide issues.
Migration, trade, etc.
The Japanese were much more isolationist later into their history. Europeans were not.
The question is, what would be an acceptable source? Your question does not imply that the tribunal's findings are worthwhile to you, so there is no point in digging further and we can accept that you have already finalized all decisions, cases closed.
Throughout history there's been a lot of migration and trade in the middle-east, but you don't seem to think they're as evil. Is there some other cause for European evil? Or am I misunderstanding?
I thought you were asking why they brought their evil around the world. Many Middle Eastern societies have done the same, but they were subjugated by European powers over the century or so.
No, I'm asking why, over history, Europeans have been more evil than everyone else.
KMFJD
Lifer
I'm not so sure that's true, Mongols sure made a mess of the world when they where the major power, same could be said about early Muslim expansion....Persian expansion, etc etc
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