Japanese cars: Boring, safe -- and selling

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NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: CocaCola5
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: bizmark
Originally posted by: NFS4

C/K Blazer -- long been dead

No, in 92-94 the C/K Blazer looked exactly like a Tahoe, until 95 when they changed the name to Tahoe. So the Tahoe is the successor to the C/K Blazer.

1992 full-size Blazer

The C/K Blazer I'm talking about is a 2-door. They don't make full-size 2-door Tahoes.

The 2dr Tahoes is the Yukon(I believe), same car just a different name.

GM doesn't make any 2-door Yukons or Tahoes...only 4-doors.
 

iamwiz82

Lifer
Jan 10, 2001
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You have to be kidding me.

You're taking a stock Liberty and putting it up against a heavily modfied Cherokee? Stock for stock, the Liberty does nearly as well. On a stock Cherokee, those live axles wouldn't be flexing even 20% as much as the trucks in the picture.

It doesnt matter how modified it is, if you notice, the libby cant flex, ever. It's IFS, you CANT flex. In a stock XJ, i can still flex more than a stock liberty without a problem. With IFS, the wheels will not make contact with the ground while going over rough terrain.

This is modded suspension with IFS
 

skace

Lifer
Jan 23, 2001
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Man, am I the only person in the world who doesn't classify my cars by "Foreign / Domestic". I just see 'name brand'. And when I want to buy a car it is 'which name brand fits my needs'.

What makes a Japaneese car boring? The only purpose of a car is to get from point A to point B in the smoothest ride possible with nice sound. I guess a boring car would be one that doesn't move... but I am pretty sure Japaneese cars move...

It would be funny if computer hardware was measured by 'domestic/foreign'. "Foreign memory chips suxor!!!".
 

Pliablemoose

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Oct 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: Ultima
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
What, I asked him, is the emotion that drives the purchase decision of a Toyota or Honda buyer?

Fear," he replied. Fear of losing resale value. Fear of a breakdown on the road. Toyota and Honda buyers believe their cars will keep running and hold onto decent resale value. Even if the exterior designs are ho-hum.

So here's my take: I've had 2 foreign cars & 1 domestic truck for 4 years now & it's just the right mix, My cars are perfect for commuting, my 3/4 ton van is perfect for hauling things like the 3/4 tons of tile, grout & mortar that I did last week, and for duty as a commuter stand in if one of my others needs repairs. None of the foreign vehicles work well as a hauler yet... I've looked @ the tilt cab UD (Nissan) & Isuzu's but insurance (my insurance company couldn't even find the models on their databases) & maintenance would be a headache (& they'd be overkill for my needs, can't see commuting in a tilt cab for some reason)

I'll need another vehicle in a few years for my oldest daughter when she's old enough to drive, & it'll be a foreign marque unless detroit really get's it's act together quickly.

You have 3 cars.. why do you "need" another one for your daughter, and why at 16? Who really *needs* a car at 16? Just about everyone I knew then didn't, and those that had them just used them for fun and mischeif :)
Call me jealous or whatever but I don't see the need there, it's attitudes like that that put more dumb drivers on the road (most 16 year olds) and clog highways, and drivers are more irresponsible when they're not paying for it. My cousin got a Sunfire for her birthday paid with insurance and even gas is paid, and she's one of the worst drivers I've ever seen. Drives 90mph on rural roads, acts like a b!tch, generally is one.. okay I don't like my cousin that much ;)
Anyways, make her get around on a bike or take the bus and learn a bit about life, I really doubt she needs her own car. That goes for the rest of you, too :)

Ultima, my oldest daughter is 12, just finished up 1 week @ band camp & a 3 week long immersive residential math camp. When she's 16 I want her to have a job if she's still @ home. I've considered scooters etc, & she may end up with an electric car like the Corbin Sparrow or a Think City. She may be in college @ 16 if she keeps up the AP classes (she was recommended for all 4 areas this school year) & gifted programs. Pretty responsible kid, who currently is planning on being a Plastic Surgeon & do reconstructive surgery (note to self, arrange time for her to spend time with the surgeons that have offered to let her tag along after them for a day).
 

Ultima

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Oct 16, 1999
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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: Ultima
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
What, I asked him, is the emotion that drives the purchase decision of a Toyota or Honda buyer?

Fear," he replied. Fear of losing resale value. Fear of a breakdown on the road. Toyota and Honda buyers believe their cars will keep running and hold onto decent resale value. Even if the exterior designs are ho-hum.

So here's my take: I've had 2 foreign cars & 1 domestic truck for 4 years now & it's just the right mix, My cars are perfect for commuting, my 3/4 ton van is perfect for hauling things like the 3/4 tons of tile, grout & mortar that I did last week, and for duty as a commuter stand in if one of my others needs repairs. None of the foreign vehicles work well as a hauler yet... I've looked @ the tilt cab UD (Nissan) & Isuzu's but insurance (my insurance company couldn't even find the models on their databases) & maintenance would be a headache (& they'd be overkill for my needs, can't see commuting in a tilt cab for some reason)

I'll need another vehicle in a few years for my oldest daughter when she's old enough to drive, & it'll be a foreign marque unless detroit really get's it's act together quickly.

You have 3 cars.. why do you "need" another one for your daughter, and why at 16? Who really *needs* a car at 16? Just about everyone I knew then didn't, and those that had them just used them for fun and mischeif :)
Call me jealous or whatever but I don't see the need there, it's attitudes like that that put more dumb drivers on the road (most 16 year olds) and clog highways, and drivers are more irresponsible when they're not paying for it. My cousin got a Sunfire for her birthday paid with insurance and even gas is paid, and she's one of the worst drivers I've ever seen. Drives 90mph on rural roads, acts like a b!tch, generally is one.. okay I don't like my cousin that much ;)
Anyways, make her get around on a bike or take the bus and learn a bit about life, I really doubt she needs her own car. That goes for the rest of you, too :)

Ultima, my oldest daughter is 12, just finished up 1 week @ band camp & a 3 week long immersive residential math camp. When she's 16 I want her to have a job if she's still @ home. I've considered scooters etc, & she may end up with an electric car like the Corbin Sparrow or a Think City. She may be in college @ 16 if she keeps up the AP classes (she was recommended for all 4 areas this school year) & gifted programs. Pretty responsible kid, who currently is planning on being a Plastic Surgeon & do reconstructive surgery (note to self, arrange time for her to spend time with the surgeons that have offered to let her tag along after them for a day).

Ah ok.. so she's definately nothing like my cousin ;p
Well she doesn't sound like just another teen and maybe she really could benefit from the mobility, but I wouldn't buy an all-electric car ;) Besides, all those batteries must be pretty toxic to the environment, as much or more than combustion engines. A scooter wouldn't be bad though..
 

bizmark

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Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: bizmark
Originally posted by: NFS4

C/K Blazer -- long been dead

No, in 92-94 the C/K Blazer looked exactly like a Tahoe, until 95 when they changed the name to Tahoe. So the Tahoe is the successor to the C/K Blazer.

1992 full-size Blazer

The C/K Blazer I'm talking about is a 2-door. They don't make full-size 2-door Tahoes.

They did until '99 if I'm not mistaken, when they dropped the 2-door not because it was unpopular, but because demand for the 4-door was so high, and profits were higher with the 4-door than with the 2-door. It's not like it makes much of a difference IMO; full-size Blazers / Tahoes / Yukons / Jimmies have always been based off of the current GM full-size truck platform. So whatever that is now (Tahoe and Yukon) is the successor to the C/K Blazer. I can see what you mean by the door-number difference, though; it doesn't seem to be the spiritual successor as much as a 2-door would be. (b/c where does the Suburban fit into all of this?) I don't know, it's mostly just a semantic difference in my eyes.

I guess I could make the argument that the full-size C/K Blazer/Tahoe has always been the SUV version of the full-size pickup, and it has always had 2 rows of seats (versus 3 rows for the Suburban). *shrug*