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Darwin333

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Stupid BS, if you ask me.

It's not the government's place to be mandating people have a certain weight, just like it's not their place to determine if they can't smoke or take alcohol for that matter.

Never knew Japan was such an authoritarian nation.
Shrug, do the have UHC in Japan? If they do than it seems like the government does in fact have an interest in keeping costs down.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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Except if you believe the government should deny coverage to people making poor health choices you would not be a liberal (unless you have been drinking :sneaky:)

See this recent thread
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2240765

which references this study:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2012/04/20/five-ways-to-turn-a-liberal-into-a-conservative-at-least-until-the-hangover-sets-in/

"In one study, for instance, liberal and conservative subjects were asked whether government health care should be extended to a hypothetical group of AIDS victims who were responsible for their own fates (they’d contracted the disease while knowing the risks, and having unprotected sex anyway). Liberals who were not under load—not distracted—wanted to help such people, despite the fact that they were personally responsible for their plight. But liberals under load were much more like conservatives, appearing to reason that this group of AIDS victims had gotten what they deserved. (Cognitive load did not appear to change the view of conservatives in the study.)"
That's simply taking the majority of liberals and using it to describe all of them.

I do believe that "poor health choices" should be completely legal, but people making such "poor health choices" shouldn't be entitled to receive "government/free healthcare" IF what they need to be treated for happened as a consequence of those bad health choices. And if we're talking about the general public, then they shouldn't be entitled if it was for something they did fully knowing the (negative) consequences.
 

nehalem256

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That's simply taking the majority of liberals and using it to describe all of them.

I do believe that "poor health choices" should be completely legal, but people making such "poor health choices" shouldn't be entitled to receive "government/free healthcare" IF what they need to be treated for happened as a consequence of those bad health choices. And if we're talking about the general public, then they shouldn't be entitled if it was for something they did fully knowing the (negative) consequences.
Sounds like you are not a liberal on health care then.
 

midwestfisherman

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Stupid BS, if you ask me.

It's not the government's place to be mandating people have a certain weight, just like it's not their place to determine if they can't smoke or take alcohol for that matter.

Never knew Japan was such an authoritarian nation.
+1
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally Posted by dmcowen674
If Japan has Universal Healthcare then citizens are under the care of the Government and must adhere to the guidelines.



Sounds like much more of an argument for it.

Healthcare costs would drop like a rock.

Obesity, diabetes etc and all the ailments that go along with them would virtually be eliminated overnight.

Certainly a win-win for Country and citizens.

Anything less would be Un-Patriotic and hateful.

Why do you hate Americans?

I forget what a wonderful time you had with the feds. Why do you hate yourself?
 

DucatiMonster696

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Originally Posted by dmcowen674
If Japan has Universal Healthcare then citizens are under the care of the Government and must adhere to the guidelines.



Sounds like much more of an argument for it.

Healthcare costs would drop like a rock.

Obesity, diabetes etc and all the ailments that go along with them would virtually be eliminated overnight.

Certainly a win-win for Country and citizens.

Anything less would be Un-Patriotic and hateful.

Why do you hate Americans?
Given your view you might as well throw in those who have risky sexual lifestyles (especially gay people who have unprotected sex), men with uncircumcised penises, and everything/everyone else under the kitchen sink who makes onto statist radar.
 

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