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Japan makes it illegal to be too wide

Doppel

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We need to bring back shame-based behavioral modification. We can use this as inspiration!
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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Stupid BS, if you ask me.

It's not the government's place to be mandating people have a certain weight, just like it's not their place to determine if they can't smoke or take alcohol for that matter.

Never knew Japan was such an authoritarian nation.
 
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They need to get rid of government healthcare, so people will have to be more responsible for their own health
 

DucatiMonster696

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Stupid BS, if you ask me.

It's not the government's place to be mandating people have a certain weight, just like it's not their place to determine if they can't smoke or take alcohol for that matter.

Never knew Japan was such an authoritarian nation.
Pretty much. If their government feels it has the right to regulate weight in the interest of the public's own good then it opens the door for them to regulate other avenues of behavior that can be deemed "risk prone" by those operating with "good intentions" amongst their governmental ranks.
 
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nehalem256

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Stupid BS, if you ask me.

It's not the government's place to be mandating people have a certain weight, just like it's not their place to determine if they can't smoke or take alcohol for that matter.

Never knew Japan was such an authoritarian nation.
And this is the obvious problem with state run health care. If people expect me to provide them with free health care, then I have an obvious interest in making sure that cost is as low as possible.
 

Lithium381

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They need to get rid of government healthcare, so people will have to be more responsible for their own health
This. If you're on the government healthcare or are subsidized, you need to play by the rules. If not have fun paying more by yourself for your HI because you don't have a healthy lifestyle and are therefore more of a risk.

Or just be healthy?
 
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This. If you're on the government healthcare or are subsidized, you need to play by the rules. If not have fun paying more by yourself for your HI because you don't have a healthy lifestyle and are therefore more of a risk.

Or just be healthy?
People must realize someone else is paying for this with their taxes so their has to be limits. It would be a much better system with no government healthcare you'd be surprised at the amount of people who all of a sudden start becoming healthier because they know they have to pay for it themselves
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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And this is the obvious problem with state run health care. If people expect me to provide them with free health care, then I have an obvious interest in making sure that cost is as low as possible.
In which case they can simply deny service to anyone above a certain weight/size if they want to take advantage of "government healthcare/free healthcare". Making it illegal is completely unnecessary. BTW, it's not free: the money to run government programs is funded by taxpayers.

Of course, if they do this for overweight people, this opens up another issue and for the "protection" of citizens they'd also need to deny healthcare to people that smoke, drink alcohol, take drugs, and whatever else they deem "unsafe".

It's just stupid BS. The government is there to protect peoples' rights, not to take them away. Who's the government to say that it's illegal for x person to eat cheeseburgers, to drink beer or rum, or to smoke cigarettes? Reeks of authoritarianism, and it's flat-out wrong.
 
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LOL_Wut_Axel

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People must realize someone else is paying for this with their taxes so their has to be limits. It would be a much better system with no government healthcare you'd be surprised at the amount of people who all of a sudden start becoming healthier because they know they have to pay for it themselves
Yet the United States has the second highest percentage of overweight people in the world. Go figure. :rolleyes:
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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Why not? They determine what narcotics are legal or not.
Yeah, but that BS. It's not for them to be determining what people can and can't consume as long as they're adults that have the ability to consent.

Government shouldn't determine whether I can drink beer or smoke or not. Or eat a cheeseburger, for that matter.
 

WelshBloke

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Yeah, but that BS. It's not for them to be determining what people can and can't consume as long as they're adults that have the ability to consent.

Government shouldn't determine whether I can drink beer or smoke or not. Or eat a cheeseburger, for that matter.
Should they decide if you can legally buy some smack?
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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Should they decide if you can legally buy some smack?
No if they're legal, consenting adults.

What's your point, anyway? That you should have the ability to deny what others can do even though they're consenting to it and it doesn't physically harm anyone else?
 

WelshBloke

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No if they're legal, consenting adults.

What's your point, anyway? That you should have the ability to deny what others can do even though they're consenting to it and it doesn't physically harm anyone else?
No I'm saying that the gov has the ability, and exercises that ability, to say what substances you can and cannot imbibe.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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No I'm saying that the gov has the ability, and exercises that ability, to say what substances you can and cannot imbibe.
Thanks for stating the obvious, genius.

That doesn't mean it's right nor that they should have that ability.
 

WelshBloke

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Thanks for stating the obvious, genius.

That doesn't mean it's right nor that they should have that ability.
Look you said it's not their place to say if you could smoke or drink, it quite obviously is. The fact you don't like that doesn't change it.
 

LOL_Wut_Axel

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Look you said it's not their place to say if you could smoke or drink, it quite obviously is. The fact you don't like that doesn't change it.
And it isn't their place; it's not right. Just because they CAN do it doesn't mean it's their place to do it.
 

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