Jail for not purchasing insurance?

[Robor]

Removed for redundancy.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

I won't be going to jail, I'll be going to the morgue, along with as many fascists as I can fit into my sights on my way down. I don't believe in non-violent protest. I believe in armed revolution.

It isn't hard to prevent the kind of violence that this would cause. Either:

A) Include a public option (no insurance involved)
B) Don't make it mandatory
C) Include an opt-out for reasons of moral objection or other valid excuse

That's all it needs, and I'm fine with it.

Well this is certainly a reasonable post. If you're going to go out in a blaze of glory killing police officers from your concrete paranoia bunker over health insurance, you need to seek therapy.

Wouldn't you rather just move to another country without mandated health insurance?

No, only the ignorant or pussies give up their national heritage rather than fight for what is right. If your attitude had prevailed a couple hundred years ago Starbucks would be the worlds biggest tea and crumpet franchise.

I don't move just because a bunch of stupid people got elected by even more stupid people and decided to sell the nation off to big business. I take up my weapon and declare clearly - NOT ME. It's up to those in government to question rather the price is too high. Right now they've forgotten that, and it's cost the citizens dearly. They're about to receive an extremely abrupt wake-up call.

Where are the people who criticized the liberal left when they said some right wing groups needed to be monitored?

 

[lupi]

I just glad so much fo the "health care reform" is about what the people will or will not do instead of the actual health care industry.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

I won't be going to jail, I'll be going to the morgue, along with as many fascists as I can fit into my sights on my way down. I don't believe in non-violent protest. I believe in armed revolution.

It isn't hard to prevent the kind of violence that this would cause. Either:

A) Include a public option (no insurance involved)
B) Don't make it mandatory
C) Include an opt-out for reasons of moral objection or other valid excuse

That's all it needs, and I'm fine with it.

Well this is certainly a reasonable post. If you're going to go out in a blaze of glory killing police officers from your concrete paranoia bunker over health insurance, you need to seek therapy.

Wouldn't you rather just move to another country without mandated health insurance?

No, only the ignorant or pussies give up their national heritage rather than fight for what is right. If your attitude had prevailed a couple hundred years ago Starbucks would be the worlds biggest tea and crumpet franchise.

I don't move just because a bunch of stupid people got elected by even more stupid people and decided to sell the nation off to big business. I take up my weapon and declare clearly - NOT ME. It's up to those in government to question rather the price is too high. Right now they've forgotten that, and it's cost the citizens dearly. They're about to receive an extremely abrupt wake-up call.

Where are the people who criticized the liberal left when they said some right wing groups needed to be monitored?

Fighting for the rights of everyone versus fighting for the privileges of a moral-majority. The difference is social conservatives are selfish fucks.

 

[classy]

I am an Obama supporter, a true supporter. But the more and more I hear and read, the more this just looks like a complete slap in the face of the American people, especially those of us who voted for him. This talk of fines and jailing is quite frankly sounding like some kind of tyrant type rule. I don't like it at all. And if this kind of legislation is passed, I won't vote democrat in the next election. Now those teabag lunatics are a disgrace, but the this whole healthcare crap they are pushing is a train wreck. And the irony is I actually support goverment healthcare, but not like this. The interesting thing is that lately they have been trying to make this out to be like a car insurance requirement which is silly. If I don't buy car insurance I can't drive, but I am not fined or threaten with jail. The whole thing is becoming a joke.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
So people can't afford insurance. Solution? Make them buy it anyway, and if they don't then fine and/or imprison them. The Republicans might just pull it off yet.

That's a really dishonest depiction of this legislation and you know it.

Ok, enlighten me because maybe I have it wrong.

I haven't had much time to be reading up on what's on the table this moment but my understanding is that health insurance would not be optional. If one doesn't get it, then the IRS can get at you.

I'd be glad to know if I'm wrong.

The dishonest part is this is Obama's plan, straight from his own mouth, fine those who do not buy health insurance. This has nothing to do with Republicans. Actually Republicans are opposing this, not supporting :roll: