Jack Bernstein's Autobiography, "The Life of an American Jew in Israel"

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0roo0roo

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Nobody needs to divide the Jewish people. They are horrified by the facts - by the actions of Israel and of Israel supporters.

No, they are horrified by the facts of the palestinians and their apologists. Bringing up racism when it comes to palestinians...
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Lemon law

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Regardless if the fellow is real of fictional, the ideas addressed are current WORLD realities and simply will not go away easily.

The bottom line question as world momentum builds, will we get a Palestinian State on or around 9/ 2011.

And as a matter of past historical precedent, the Uncle Tom Harriet Beecher Stowe wrote about was fictional also, but it changed many attitudes about Southern Slavery prior to the American civil war.
 
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Regardless if the fellow is real of fictional, the ideas addressed are current WORLD realities and simply will not go away easily.

Yup, those white sumpremacist neo nazis, they're so in touch with "reality." Really they are. Just ask them.
 

Fern

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There is no such person "Jack Bernstein." His writings were penned by white supremacist Len Martin. It's a hoax, and one so obvious that only a handful of white supremacist websites even bother with it.
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- wolf

Interesting. It's simply amazing the BS some will try to pull over onto others.

Fern
 

Lemon law

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Interesting. It's simply amazing the BS some will try to pull over onto others.

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Fern, pardon me if I say, you live in a fools paradise, we still do not know of Berinstien is real of fictional, but the issues addressed are quite real, and to deny those issues are only the delusions of fools.

Zillions of external facts are now working against Israeli world opinion at the same time. Meaning proving Jack Berinstien fictional will do zero nada zippo zip to rehabilitate negative Israeli world opinion.
 

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Fern, pardon me if I say, you live in a fools paradise, we still do not know of Berinstien is real of fictional, but the issues addressed are quite real, and to deny those issues are only the delusions of fools.

Zillions of external facts are now working against Israeli world opinion at the same time. Meaning proving Jack Berinstien fictional will do zero nada zippo zip to rehabilitate negative Israeli world opinion.

Jack Bernstein never existed. This is a work of fiction. The question is, why would someone write this as a work of fiction and claim it as fact? The question is similar to what I ask myself whenever I read your myriad posts on the subject of Israel.
 

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Fern, pardon me if I say, you live in a fools paradise, we still do not know of Berinstien is real of fictional, but the issues addressed are quite real, and to deny those issues are only the delusions of fools.

Zillions of external facts are now working against Israeli world opinion at the same time. Meaning proving Jack Berinstien fictional will do zero nada zippo zip to rehabilitate negative Israeli world opinion.

Says a lot that you are in league with fakes and conspiracy theorists:p World opinion is just that, a lot of hatred from folks that discredit themselves with their false histories and reliance on hateful conspiracy theories. Their opinion is as good as any nazis.
 

Abwx

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World opinion is just that, a lot of hatred from folks that discredit themselves with their false histories and reliance on hateful conspiracy theories. Their opinion is as good as any nazis.


A fool supporting the nazi zionists branding other people as nazis..:D

As usual, zio meds addicts are preaching one thing and its opposite..
 

Lemon law

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Pardon me for asking, has anyone definitely proved that Jack Berinstien is a fake? As all the Israeli fan clubbers rush to judgment without bothering with proving their contention.

And also ignore that the tiny side issue will not make any difference regarding the present world Israeli negative opinions.

As Israeli fan clubbers some how believe, if they can prove Jack Berinstien is a fake, it will somehow rehabilitate unjustifiable Israeli behavior.
 

Doboji

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Well if it is indeed a fraud... Then this whole thread is based on a book that was generated by a white supremist trying to damage Jews and Israel. I would say regardless of what it means to the larger argument we should all dismiss the contents of this and return to debating facts rather than lies.
 

woolfe9999

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Pardon me for asking, has anyone definitely proved that Jack Berinstien is a fake? As all the Israeli fan clubbers rush to judgment without bothering with proving their contention.

And also ignore that the tiny side issue will not make any difference regarding the present world Israeli negative opinions.

As Israeli fan clubbers some how believe, if they can prove Jack Berinstien is a fake, it will somehow rehabilitate unjustifiable Israeli behavior.

For starters, the book is published by Noontide Press. You know what and who Noontide Press is and what else they publish? So far as I'm concerned, that alone is enough to shift the burden of proof here. But there's much more.

There is no evidence of the existence of Jack Bernstein. No birth or death announcements, no bio in wiki. No nothing, anywhere. There is no reference to the man independent of websites that are peddling his book, all of whom have a clear agenda.

Len Martin, a person with known ties to white supremacist groups, claimed he met him. He is the only person alive who claims to have ever met him, so far as I can find, and I've read pretty much all 8 or so websites that mention him or this publication. As memory serves, Martin also wrote a "forward" to his book, and he appears to be one who took it to Noontide Press for publication. Len Martin at one point claimed that Bernstein was assassinated by Mossad in the United States. Len Martin is the only source for this allegation, though all the websites pertaining to "Jack Bernstein" state it as fact.

I've read the entire book. It is written at roughly an 8th grade level. It purports to be about Bernstein living in Israel for a time. The book is totally devoid of any geographical detail, totally devoid of any personal touch, and totally devoid of even the most incidental positive observations about Israel, not even the scenery. It reads as a semi-coherent, discursive polemic. It is rife with inaccuracies. For example, at one point the author claims he was jailed for 8 days for not carrying an ID car, an offense which has never been jailable in Israel. This book was written by someone who never visited Israel.

If you want to keep speculating that this book is authentic, be my guest. Noontide Press has a vast archive of anti-zionist and other anti-Jewish material that I'm sure you'll find equally credible:

http://www.noontidepress.com/catalog/category.php?hash=
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noontide_Press

- wolf
 
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