K1052
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- Aug 21, 2003
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Republicans are very upset that people don't care about gun violence directed at Trump when they spent the last four decades doing everything possible to make Americans ignore gun violence.
Republicans are very upset that people don't care about gun violence directed at Trump when they spent the last four decades doing everything possible to make Americans ignore gun violence.
HomerJS
Lifer
- Feb 6, 2002
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The same honest JD that admitted to Dana Bash he "created" the Haitians eating dogs and cats story?
Yeah I'm not sure what it's called when Vance and Lewandowski truthfully say that their plan is to lie to us.
IronWing
No Lifer
- Jul 20, 2001
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Worked for the Bushies. Rumsfeld held a press conference on 9/12/2001 and told the American people that the Bush administration intended to lie to them about all aspects of the war they were planning. People cheered.
Indus
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- May 11, 2002
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HomerJS
Lifer
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JD Vance gives a speech on loving your neighbors while he endangers the lives of Haitians in Springfield.
www.independent.co.uk
Vance mocked for call to ‘love neighbors’ after spreading conspiracy about migrants
Vance helped spread conspiracy that Haitians in Ohio were eating pets
www.independent.co.uk
HomerJS
Lifer
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HomerJS
Lifer
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This woman needs to go on the air explain the story and apologize to the Haitian migrants. Local media will not get the attention of the original lie.
www.independent.co.uk
Vance said a Springfield resident’s cat was stolen and eaten. Instead, it was hiding
Anna Kilgore, a Springfield resident, apologized to her Haitian neighbors over the cat mix-up
www.independent.co.uk
hal2kilo
Lifer
- Feb 24, 2009
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That a continuous supply of misinformation leads to all kinds of unpredictable results.
Trump was asked to condemn the bomb threats to schools and wouldn’t do it. So Vance wants an apology for events that he and his boss caused and doesn’t think are bad.
JD Vance demands an apology for the Bomb Threats that he and Trump caused in Springfield OH
I am so sick of these fucking people. I mean seriously, they are fracking insufferable. The unmitigated gall. Just look at this shit. Vance (R-OH) took to X Tuesday afternoon to complain the mainstream media had unfairly linked 33 bomb threats — which...
www.dailykos.com
Pens1566
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- Oct 11, 2005
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uallas5
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- Jun 3, 2005
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An opinion piece by Sofia Nelson and an NPR interview with them goes into some interesting points about what happened to JD and why he acts the way he does now. They used to be friends starting in law school and even though Sofia is trans and JD conservative, "Respectful dialogue across difference I think was the key to our friendship." JD even brought Sofia home baked goods to the hospital after gender affirming surgery. After law school, they remained friends and communicating multiple times a year by email. Sofia, JD, and JD's now wife were all part of the same small group of friends, "an island of misfit toys". The change came when he joined in with the neo-liberal movement after converting to Catholicism. When JD ran for Senate, all communications ended, the friendship over.
"Despite the time we spent as friends, I have no real insights (other than political expediency) into what drew him to post-liberal men like the academic Patrick Deneen, columnist Sohrab Ahmari, legal scholar Adrian Vermeule and expat journalist and author Rod Dreher, who was present for Vance’s baptism into the Catholic Church in 2019. What I do know is that Vance used to condemn Trump’s racism and be empathetic to how such rhetoric made Americans feel unwelcome in their own country. But these men have had an obvious and heartbreaking effect on Vance’s worldview."
"There is some policy overlap between MAGA and post-liberalism in their shared opposition, for example, to immigration and transgender rights. But the ideological overlap between the groups is a shared affinity for authoritarianism. The post-liberal right, which has goals that even MAGA Republicans would find extreme, is attempting to hijack the MAGA movement to push its own agenda."
"Unlike the MAGA movement, which is led by a candidate who is defiantly amoral, post-liberalism is steeped in a revolutionary religiosity. Its goals include replacing our social and political power structures with a new social order rooted in a misogynist understanding of gender, sexuality, marriage and reproduction closely tethered to Catholic social teachings. This is reflected in Vance’s obsession with birth rates and the way he belittles women without children."
"Despite the time we spent as friends, I have no real insights (other than political expediency) into what drew him to post-liberal men like the academic Patrick Deneen, columnist Sohrab Ahmari, legal scholar Adrian Vermeule and expat journalist and author Rod Dreher, who was present for Vance’s baptism into the Catholic Church in 2019. What I do know is that Vance used to condemn Trump’s racism and be empathetic to how such rhetoric made Americans feel unwelcome in their own country. But these men have had an obvious and heartbreaking effect on Vance’s worldview."
"There is some policy overlap between MAGA and post-liberalism in their shared opposition, for example, to immigration and transgender rights. But the ideological overlap between the groups is a shared affinity for authoritarianism. The post-liberal right, which has goals that even MAGA Republicans would find extreme, is attempting to hijack the MAGA movement to push its own agenda."
"Unlike the MAGA movement, which is led by a candidate who is defiantly amoral, post-liberalism is steeped in a revolutionary religiosity. Its goals include replacing our social and political power structures with a new social order rooted in a misogynist understanding of gender, sexuality, marriage and reproduction closely tethered to Catholic social teachings. This is reflected in Vance’s obsession with birth rates and the way he belittles women without children."
I doubt it's any mystery. it's $$$$$. I'd guess a lot of the most successful wacko influencers and "news" figures (jesse Watters et al) don't even believe one word they are saying. They've found a way to make bank, like some actor getting a breakthrough role playing a serial killer. Problem is, everyone knows the actor is acting, the words these other boobs say are taken seriously by a lot of rubes. And for the record it doesn't matter if they believe the words or not. JD might, or might not, really believe his own garbage but he's still responsible for it.
feralkid
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- Jan 28, 2002
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Pens1566
Lifer
- Oct 11, 2005
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Making up a story to get a point across and get people talking about it is ok, right?
balloonshark
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- Jun 5, 2008
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HomerJS
Lifer
- Feb 6, 2002
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I hope everyone fires up the JD Vance fucks couches rumor again. After all it’s ok to “ create” stories.
I hope a reporter asks him “I heard people are saying you have sex with couches”
After he rants at the press remind him he said it’s ok to create a story and constituents are saying.
I hope a reporter asks him “I heard people are saying you have sex with couches”
After he rants at the press remind him he said it’s ok to create a story and constituents are saying.
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