Ivy to be 7-25% faster than Sandy plus 3x GPU performance

Grooveriding

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That seems kind of a small increase.

Guess I would like to see the sort of boost we saw going from PD to Core2 again. :cool:
 
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Olikan

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lol, at first i was "OMG"

than seeing better...
3x the speed of hd 2000 (is still lower than llano)

still, good cpu increase :wub:
 

amenx

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Wha...?

+7% higher overall SYSmark 2012 score;
+14% higher overall HDXPRT 2011 score;
+15% higher Cinebench 11.5 score;
+13% better ProShow Gold 4.5 result;
+25% faster performance in Excel 2010;
+56% faster performance in ArcSoft Media Expresso;
+192% higher overall 3DMark Vantage score;
+17% faster performance in 3DMark Vantage CPU benchmark;
+199% faster performance in 3DMark Vantage GPU benchmark;

edit: OK, I got it. Its the IGP performance.
 

janas19

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The article mentions that the built-in HD Graphics improvements of Ivy Bridge are meant to compete with "entry-level" discrete graphics cards - does this mean if you buy Ivy Bridge with an H67 board, you don't need a graphics card for a HTPC?
 

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Its looking like ivy bridge will have a nice ipc increase from these benchmarks.

If ivy bridge has 10 percent increase in IPC, its looking like sandy bridge will be quite obsolete.

20 percent higher clock speeds and 10 percent high ipc is a massive increase.

4.5*1.2 = 5.4

5.4*1.1 = 5.94

At that speed tri gtx 580's wouldnt be bottlenecked.

Now you know why people have been hyping ivy so much, these 3d transitors are going to destory everything.

This is why intel isnt scared at all of ARM processors.

In a few years we will all have tablets, and they will all be running intel.

How can arm compete against intels fabs once intel gets rolling. The answer is they wont.
 
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gevorg

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Nice to see more desktops models having top-end IGP, unlike in Sandy Bridge. AMD APUs will feel some heat in 2012.

Great IGP boost for Macbook Air refresh.
 

Chiropteran

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But will intel ever develop good video drivers? Even if the IGP was slightly faster than llano, I'd rather buy a llano laptop knowing that for the most part the drivers will just work, and updates will be released regularly. Can't say the same thing about intel graphic drivers.
 

Edrick

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But will intel ever develop good video drivers? Even if the IGP was slightly faster than llano, I'd rather buy a llano laptop knowing that for the most part the drivers will just work, and updates will be released regularly. Can't say the same thing about intel graphic drivers.

I wonder if Intel IGPs (up until now) would still be looked upon so negatively if Intel had been able to put out good drivers over the years.
 

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In a few years we will all have tablets, and they will all be running intel.

How can arm compete against intels fabs once intel gets rolling. The answer is they wont.
FACT : People buy a tablet would consider design and form factor first, performance second.

Mainstream consumers wouldn't even care whether their tablets are powered by a potato. To them a processor is nothing more than a black box and hidden from their view. Even if Intel were to offer 1000% performance over the ARM counterparts you would still have to consider whether the x86 OSes are any good. iSheep does not buy specs that I can be sure of and for tablets in general, performance is not as important as battery life.

Windows 8 is not as great as it should be and from my POV, the metro UI is a poor design that is 50% desktop and 50% tablet which is nothing compared to the likes of Android or iOS. When it comes to x86 tablets, I am more inclined to use Fedora over Windows 8 anytime. If Intel is planning to have any chance at grabbing the tablet market from ARM, Windows 8 would have to prove to be just as successful.
 

Olikan

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I wonder if Intel IGPs (up until now) would still be looked upon so negatively if Intel had been able to put out good drivers over the years.

did you see the thread about the new atoms?

soo....maybe that's why apple dropped amd, intel igp is actually good now.
(seems like, discrete gpus for notebook are going to be the new sound card)
 

Nintendesert

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I bought into Intel's claims with their IGP crap before, I'll wait for real reviews on the quality of the IB graphics. I hope it's better, but I was tricked by SB.
 

rnj

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any idea when laptops with this will be hitting the market? I thought originally January `12, but i'm not sure..
 

Blitzvogel

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I bought into Intel's claims with their IGP crap before, I'll wait for real reviews on the quality of the IB graphics. I hope it's better, but I was tricked by SB.

I was quite surprised by HD 3000s beating out Geforce 310s and Radeon 5450s, but then I noticed the clock speed, and I wasn't so surprised anymore.......

Whatever, the fact that Intel is providing such graphics capabilities in such a small package with a low total combined TDW that is very easy to manage is quite impressive. What I wonder is how memory bandwidth will effect the performance, much like with Llano.....

Dedicated graphics are still a necessity for decent gaming as far as I'm concerned, but much better IGPs are a good thing for consumers looking for cheap laptops, introductory gaming capabilities, and providing a decent base of users for gaming software companies to pander to, which in the end affects how much good PC gaming software is out there for me.

Keep up the good work Intel :thumbsup:
 

bryanW1995

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Its looking like ivy bridge will have a nice ipc increase from these benchmarks.

If ivy bridge has 10 percent increase in IPC, its looking like sandy bridge will be quite obsolete.

20 percent higher clock speeds and 10 percent high ipc is a massive increase.

4.5*1.2 = 5.4

5.4*1.1 = 5.94

At that speed tri gtx 580's wouldnt be bottlenecked.

Now you know why people have been hyping ivy so much, these 3d transitors are going to destory everything.

This is why intel isnt scared at all of ARM processors.

In a few years we will all have tablets, and they will all be running intel.

How can arm compete against intels fabs once intel gets rolling. The answer is they wont.

Dont get your hopes up. According to Anandtech,

"Clock for clock performance will go up by a small amount over Sandy Bridge (4 - 6%), combine that with slightly higher clock speeds and we may see CPU performance gains of around 10% at the same price point with Ivy Bridge. The bigger news will be around power consumption and graphics performance."

A good SB clocks to 5 ghz, not 4.5. My mother can barely check her email and she could figure out how to get to 4.5 on an SB cpu. Are you really predicting a 20% increase on 5ghz from just a die shrink? 3d transistors sound great, and maybe they will be, but there are often issues when changing node and design at the same time.

The 10% total improvement that Anand quoted is in line with similar die shrinks that intel has performed in the past.
 

exar333

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lol, at first i was "OMG"

than seeing better...
3x the speed of hd 2000 (is still lower than llano)

still, good cpu increase :wub:

Who would have thought you could do some light gaming in an Intel IGP a couple years ago? I certaintly did'nt think so. :)

This trend is good for everyone, and makes entry-level computers much more capable for folks. If PCs can get to a point where even cheap ones can play some decent games and do HD content easily, it really opens the platform up to the masses.
 

Nemesis 1

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But will intel ever develop good video drivers? Even if the IGP was slightly faster than llano, I'd rather buy a llano laptop knowing that for the most part the drivers will just work, and updates will be released regularly. Can't say the same thing about intel graphic drivers.

troll troll troll your boat gently down the stream merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream .

Lets lok at who cause the least amount of crashes
 

exar333

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troll troll troll your boat gently down the stream merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream .

Lets lok at who cause the least amount of crashes

Good point Nemesis. Intel video drivers have been actually very solid recently.

I know some folks gripe about the 23fps support on the Intel side, but thats not an issue for most people. If it is, get a $20-40 discrete or go Llano.
 

Nemesis 1

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Dont get your hopes up. According to Anandtech,

"Clock for clock performance will go up by a small amount over Sandy Bridge (4 - 6%), combine that with slightly higher clock speeds and we may see CPU performance gains of around 10% at the same price point with Ivy Bridge. The bigger news will be around power consumption and graphics performance."

A good SB clocks to 5 ghz, not 4.5. My mother can barely check her email and she could figure out how to get to 4.5 on an SB cpu. Are you really predicting a 20% increase on 5ghz from just a die shrink? 3d transistors sound great, and maybe they will be, but there are often issues when changing node and design at the same time.

The 10% total improvement that Anand quoted is in line with similar die shrinks that intel has performed in the past.

What exactly did AT say after the SB review 10% better than last generation . not in the real world.
 

Subyman

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I think people are missing the big number here:

77TDP vs 95TDP (K series equivalent)

A 20% efficiency increase coupled with the performance increase is a great thing.