Ivy Bridge Results and Discussion thread

[Rvenger]

Consider this board too it is the top of the line Biostar board in the same price range:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138354

TZ77XE3 is $110 AR and has the same amount of power phases:thumbsup:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...55&Tpk=TZ77XE3

 

[Don Karnage]

Consider this board too it is the top of the line Biostar board in the same price range:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138354

Had two. Great board before it died on me

 

[exar333]

I got mine. Running it at stock at the moment. HT is enabled.

Ambient: 25c
Idle: 26c-30c
Full load on all cores from Inplace Large FFTs with Prime95 after 30 minutes: 67c-72c
Cooler: NH-D14
Case: FT02
Motherboard: GA-Z77X-UD5H

On the plus side, between the 3770k and my new Seasonic X650, my power usage has decreased by a nice amount. The wattage was measured using a Kill-a-Watt which is connected to my UPS which also powers my router, modem, monitor, external HD, and powered USB hub.

Old Phenom X4 955 Stock Idle: 230
Old Phenom X4 955 Stock Full load from Prime95: 346
3770k Stock Idle: 151
3770k Stock Full load from Prime95: 237

That's terrible temps at stock. I have the same cooler and run about 10C higher at idle, but similar temps as you at load, but with 6C + HT @ 4.6ghz (SB-E).

 

[blackened23]

That's terrible temps at stock. I have the same cooler and run about 10C higher at idle, but similar temps as you at load, but with 6C + HT @ 4.6ghz (SB-E).

Its a warm chip for sure. While idle in my BIOS my chip is around 35-40C which is definitely warmer than the previous 2600k idling in the BIOS.

So far seem to be stable at 4.6 1.25V. Temps are high, not past my comfort zone yet so far though.

 

[Tempered81]

at 4.6 1.25V. Temps are high, not past my comfort zone

Cool keep pushing it. Worst case is each core hit ~103-105C and throttle some.

 

[blackened23]

Cool keep pushing it. Worst case is each core hit ~103-105C and throttle some.

There's no way i'd run it that hot. I'm 100% sure it wouldn't be stable at that temp either at a high OC....

I start to get BSOD's at around the 90C mark generally, i'm pretty happy with 4.6

 

[blackened23]

For some reason I cannot OC my RAM with the 3770k. With my 2600k , I was able to oc my 22nm Samsung DDR3-1600 to 2133mhz no problem at all! at 1.5v. It is the best oc'ing ram on the market.

However I can't boot past 1600 now with the 3770k Not sure what gives.

 

[Blades]

I got my i7-3770K today, along with a GA-Z77X-UD5H mobo.. They are both still in the box... The gigabyte did not come with foam packaging.. Since I run my current system on the counter... I want the foam dammit!! Thats not the reason I haven't opened stuff up yet.. I just... can't be bothered..

I'm typing this on my 2500K.. its currently running perfectly stable at 5.2 (5207mhz) and I'm afraid to 'jinx it' by removing the H80 and trying out my new setup..

I also did not buy a power supply.. I'm actually wondering what the smallest PS I can buy for just a mobo+ssd+i7-3770K... I'm not aspiring to be captain planet or anything.. I just saw a cheap 400W micro ATX modular ps that could save me some desk space.

edit: The post prior to this post was posted while I was typing.. pretty good example of how I don't want to feel... Good luck blackened23.. I feel ur pain.. Same mobo? Just changed out the CPU?

 

[Dadofamunky]

Meh. I might just grab a 2600K/2700K and call it a day.

 

[blackened23]

I got my i7-3770K today, along with a GA-Z77X-UD5H mobo.. They are both still in the box... The gigabyte did not come with foam packaging.. Since I run my current system on the counter... I want the foam dammit!! Thats not the reason I haven't opened stuff up yet.. I just... can't be bothered..

I'm typing this on my 2500K.. its currently running perfectly stable at 5.2 (5207mhz) and I'm afraid to 'jinx it' by removing the H80 and trying out my new setup..

I also did not buy a power supply.. I'm actually wondering what the smallest PS I can buy for just a mobo+ssd+i7-3770K... I'm not aspiring to be captain planet or anything.. I just saw a cheap 400W micro ATX modular ps that could save me some desk space.

edit: The post prior to this post was posted while I was typing.. pretty good example of how I don't want to feel... Good luck blackened23.. I feel ur pain.. Same mobo? Just changed out the CPU?

Nah I bought A P8Z77 deluxe to pair it with. I'm pretty happy overall, I wasn't expecting miracles! I have 4.6 stable so...yeah, happy

It definitely *is* much hotter than sandy bridge though! My 2600k ran a good 15-17C lower at even 4.8ghz / 1.45vcore.

 

[Blades]

What exactly would I need to do to address the thermal paste issues? Is there knowledge to be gained by me performing a few risky procedures on my new i7-3770K? I rarely turn down an opportunity to take something apart.

Hell, if I don't get a decent overclock out of this, I may break it out of rage.. So.. nothing ventured, nothing gained.. right? How would I ensure that my new IVB has equiv thermal conductivity as my SB?

 

[blackened23]

What exactly would I need to do to address the thermal paste issues? Is there knowledge to be gained by me performing a few risky procedures on my new i7-3770K? I rarely turn down an opportunity to take something apart.

Hell, if I don't get a decent overclock out of this, I may break it out of rage.. So.. nothing ventured, nothing gained.. right? How would I ensure that my new IVB has equiv thermal conductivity as my SB?

You're welcome to remove the IHS if you want, if thats what you're referring to, but it won't help your temps. Several have already done this to no avail.

If you want the same temps as your SB you're out of luck....IB is just a warmer chip when oc'ed period. But you should be able to hit 4.6-4.7 in the 80-85C range with a good cooler. (with HT enabled)

 

[Blades]

Its not the temps I'm after.. Its the thermal efficiency.. How is it that laptop chips lack an IHS and do just fine? How is the SB's IHS soldered on? Solder melts at a seemingly chip killing temp (~478F-ish?)

 

[offandon]

Meh. I might just grab a 2600K/2700K and call it a day.

Why? What are your goals that would have you choose a 2600K/2700K at this time? Saving 20 bucks is nice I suppose but to me that is the only concrete benefit to be seen. I have not seen too many people picking up new 2600Ks that are posting that they are getting extreme OCs. Maybe better with a 2700K though. I think one thing we can say so far from the sampling here is that the 3770K gives you a reasonably predictable and easy to achieve 4.6. That 4.6 has got to be about as good a performer as a 2600K/2700K @ 4.8. So buying a sandy you are gambling that you will get over 4.8 on your lotto pick. Personally I would rather take the less power hungry alternative that gets you an easy 4.6 or even easier 4.2 at stock volts. At those clocks the temps are not bad at all from what I have seen as well.

But to each his own and whatever you choose best of luck to you!

 

[Don Karnage]

Meh. I might just grab a 2600K/2700K and call it a day.

Why? Its a waste to get a sandy bridge over ivy

 

[TidusZ]

For some reason I cannot OC my RAM with the 3770k. With my 2600k , I was able to oc my 22nm Samsung DDR3-1600 to 2133mhz no problem at all! at 1.5v. It is the best oc'ing ram on the market.

However I can't boot past 1600 now with the 3770k Not sure what gives.

I got 4x4 gb of the samsung 30 nm and the highest I've been able to go is 1800 mhz at stock timing, which is a lot worse than the results I've seen from tons of other people. I wonder if that's the reason why for me as well. I'll test each stick individually when I feel more motivated

 

[ljtatej]

Recieved a 3770k today. Batch L206B285. Will give a go in the morning.

 

[Edgemeal]

How is the SB's IHS soldered on? Solder melts at a seemingly chip killing temp (~478F-ish?)

Basically chips have two temp ratings, storage and operating. The storage max temp is generally higher, the solder used melts below the chips max storage temp so no harm is done.

They may also use some cooling techniques during the soldering process, I don't know about CPU packaging but when I worked in a met lab (testing metals) a lot of the machines used to melt metals used LN2 or He to keep everything else including the machine from going up in flames.

 

[blackened23]

I got 4x4 gb of the samsung 30 nm and the highest I've been able to go is 1800 mhz at stock timing, which is a lot worse than the results I've seen from tons of other people. I wonder if that's the reason why for me as well. I'll test each stick individually when I feel more motivated

I fixed it. I think. I had to change FSB:memory to 100:100 instead of 100:133, now I can run it at DDR3-2200. 11,11,11,28 CAS 1, 1.6V.

All is good again

 

[TidusZ]

I fixed it. I think. I had to change FSB:memory to 100:100 instead of 100:133, now I can run it at DDR3-2200. 11,11,11,28 CAS 1, 1.6V.

All is good again

I don't know how to do that, I don't see any options to change that. Wouldn't the memory always be running off the bclk at 100 mhz x multiplier?

 

[Ketchup]

Why? What are your goals that would have you choose a 2600K/2700K at this time? Saving 20 bucks is nice I suppose but to me that is the only concrete benefit to be seen. I have not seen too many people picking up new 2600Ks that are posting that they are getting extreme OCs. Maybe better with a 2700K though. I think one thing we can say so far from the sampling here is that the 3770K gives you a reasonably predictable and easy to achieve 4.6. That 4.6 has got to be about as good a performer as a 2600K/2700K @ 4.8. So buying a sandy you are gambling that you will get over 4.8 on your lotto pick. Personally I would rather take the less power hungry alternative that gets you an easy 4.6 or even easier 4.2 at stock volts. At those clocks the temps are not bad at all from what I have seen as well.

I don't agree, I think now is the perfect time to pick up a Sandy Bridge chip. Now that the chip has been out and tested, we see that Ivy bridge offers very little power savings over Sandy, doesn't overclock as well, and runs hotter. Not to mention that there is and will continue to be some good prices on Sandy bridge chips while retailers and e-tailers still have them in stock.

The waiting game is over and the only legitimate reason (that I can see) to pick up an Ivy is for those who have the cash and enjoy having the latest thing out (because it's there). Not that there is anything wrong with that.

 

[rgallant]

I don't agree, I think now is the perfect time to pick up a Sandy Bridge chip. Now that the chip has been out and tested, we see that Ivy bridge offers very little power savings over Sandy, doesn't overclock as well, and runs hotter. Not to mention that there is and will continue to be some good prices on Sandy bridge chips while retailers and e-tailers still have them in stock.

The waiting game is over and the only legitimate reason (that I can see) to pick up an Ivy is for those who have the cash and enjoy having the latest thing out (because it's there). Not that there is anything wrong with that.

-well any one building a gaming system with 3.0 high end card/s,why would they buy a pci-e 2.0 platform , you can say it doesn't matter now ,fair opinion , but you can say the same with what you deem are the plus's of sb over ib.[lower temp reading ,maybe a better oc to out weigh the less ipc.] call it a wash unless you need 3.0 for your brand new cards down the road, then you can dump your newish sb system.

 

[Ketchup]

-well any one building a gaming system with 3.0 high end card/s,why would they buy a pci-e 2.0 platform , you can say it doesn't matter now ,fair opinion , but you can say the same with what you deem are the plus's of sb over ib.[lower temp reading ,maybe a better oc to out weigh the less ipc.] call it a wash unless you need 3.0 for your brand new cards down the road, then you can dump your newish sb system.

I was talking about the CPU, which has nothing to do with PCI-E 3.0

 

[nyker96]

in addition to temp, could people also post the cooler you using?

3770K from Microcenter on an ASRock Extreme 6 board.

My goal was not to push this to its limits but to just go for a moderate, easy, safe OC. I have settled on running at 4.3GHz which is requiring 1.2V to be stable. At these settings I am seeing temps of around 26-30C at no to very low loads and I am peaking at 60-62C under full load. My cooler is the H80.

I don't like this result much. 4,3 already at 60+ even on a H80. I'd say this chip will top out at 4,6 at this rate probably doing 80C then.

What exactly would I need to do to address the thermal paste issues? Is there knowledge to be gained by me performing a few risky procedures on my new i7-3770K? I rarely turn down an opportunity to take something apart.

Hell, if I don't get a decent overclock out of this, I may break it out of rage.. So.. nothing ventured, nothing gained.. right? How would I ensure that my new IVB has equiv thermal conductivity as my SB?

dude, I have a feeling you gonna break it outta rage. The Ivys are just not going to match SBs in the OC arena. You surely gonna be disappointing.

 

[TidusZ]

I was talking about the CPU, which has nothing to do with PCI-E 3.0

It sort of does since IB supports pci-e 3.0 and SB does not.