Ivy Bridge 3570K Testing, Opinions, Results, New Bios, 4.5Ghz At 1.236v

[blckgrffn]

IDC made this thread showing the relation, although that was with the 2600K.

I fully expect IDC to pull through for us again with the 3770k.

 

[Tsaar]

Decided to with the 2600k and Asus Z68 combo for under $300 from Microcenter over this.

With the $20 CPU replacement plan from MC I will probably push this chip pretty hard.

 

[TidusZ]

Decided to with the 2600k and Asus Z68 combo for under $300 from Microcenter over this.

With the $20 CPU replacement plan from MC I will probably push this chip pretty hard.

What if IB overclocks to 5.3 ghz at low 60s? I have waited a few months, 10 more days isn't so bad. The evidence is stacking up but past experience has proven several times that rumors can be far off the mark.

 

[Rvenger]

What if IB overclocks to 5.3 ghz at low 60s? I have waited a few months, 10 more days isn't so bad. The evidence is stacking up but past experience has proven several times that rumors can be far off the mark.

The bulldozer rumors turned out to be true.

 

[n0x1ous]

Ivy will be epic when compared to faildozer

 

[blckgrffn]

Ivy will be epic when compared to faildozer

Epic in that you might be better of with SB if you OC seriously? Like you might be better off with a Thuban in that AM3+ board?



(I am doubting that, just sayin')

 

[n0x1ous]

Epic in that you might be better of with SB if you OC seriously? Like you might be better off with a Thuban in that AM3+ board?



(I am doubting that, just sayin')

yes about maybe being better off with SB for OC, thats why i said compared to Faildozer. its easy to look good when compared to that piece of ****

 

[Vesku]

Still, according to some viewpoints frequently expressed on this forum: IB is complete fail if these rumors are true.

^ Not my belief but it is the narrow viewpoint (Gaming centric, Benchmark centric, Etc.) that often gets expressed.

 

[TidusZ]

Still, according to some viewpoints frequently expressed on this forum: IB is complete fail if these rumors are true.

^ Not my belief but it is the narrow viewpoint (Gaming centric, Benchmark centric, Etc.) that often gets expressed.

If it is true, then the fact is that 1 year later we have a processor that is not capable of more performance than what we had with 2500k/2600k in early 2011... at the same price as IB is going to sell at. That is pretty fail, and that is coming from someone who is buying one. Any arguments that its better at stock really have no meaning since these days anyone can hit a button in their motherboard graphical interface software to overclock and people who are interested in more than email and facebook will do so. What matters is the performance its capable of running at 24/7 without spending 400+ on cooling, and the early indication is it will be the same speed as the year old chips, at the same prices they launched at.

 

[JAG87]

You are assuming they are both running at same temps, when in fact they are not. the 3770k is running at a whopping 97C which makes it an epic fail compared to the 2600k. Power usage is all good, but you can't ignore temps.

You think that a 2600K running at 5.2G would run any cooler? Please. Do you know what kind of voltage it takes for 5.2G? Not everyone gets cherry picked CPUs like the one that tweaktown has.

The fact of the matter is that all other things being equal, IB provides comparable performance to SB at ~10% less clock, ~10% less voltage, and therefore considerable power savings.

It's irrelevant whether or not it can clock to 4.8, 4.9 or 5 Ghz. It doesn't need to. 4.5 at reasonable voltage is enough to match SB, with power savings.

 

[TidusZ]

You think that a 2600K running at 5.2G would run any cooler? Please. Do you know what kind of voltage it takes for 5.2G? Not everyone gets cherry picked CPUs like the one that tweaktown has.

The fact of the matter is that all other things being equal, IB provides comparable performance to SB at ~10% less clock, ~10% less voltage, and therefore considerable power savings.

It's irrelevant whether or not it can clock to 4.8, 4.9 or 5 Ghz. It doesn't need to. 4.5 at reasonable voltage is enough to match SB, with power savings.

I would trade power savings for more speed personally, but I do agree that it will be comparable to SB.. I was hoping for better tho. I am just hoping that these china chips are crap and the real ivy bridge is yet to be unveiled (the one that goes to 5ghz+ without starting on fire). My hopes are not high though. Either way at this point there is no reason to buy a SB over IB, so I'll be buying IB on launch.

 

[CptSpock]

You think that a 2600K running at 5.2G would run any cooler? Please. Do you know what kind of voltage it takes for 5.2G? Not everyone gets cherry picked CPUs like the one that tweaktown has.

The fact of the matter is that all other things being equal, IB provides comparable performance to SB at ~10% less clock, ~10% less voltage, and therefore considerable power savings.

It's irrelevant whether or not it can clock to 4.8, 4.9 or 5 Ghz. It doesn't need to. 4.5 at reasonable voltage is enough to match SB, with power savings.

Check the temp of that 2600k at 5.2GHz again, if you can't read- its 75C compared to 97C of the 3770k.

You will be able to get same performance of the 2600k at 10% less everything, but at the massive cost of 30% more heat and it will possibly degrade faster too.

 

[Boulard83]

As for 24/7, Ivy is fine. My main concern is for my benching session.... Being enable to reach 5.1-5.2 ghz when a 2500/2600k can do it on AIR ....

 

[Tempered81]

You think that a 2600K running at 5.2G would run any cooler? Please.

Haha, man did you see the graphs in the link you posted? It's 400mhz slower & 20C hotter, and it even has watercooling.

I wouldn't call it a fail in comparison to BD. It's not a fail in comparison to SB, it's the same thing. But the SB at 5.2 bests the IB at 4.8 in most of those benchmarks, while being 20C lower temperatures. Seems like it would be a no brainer for an enthusiast.

$335 3770K that tops out at 4700mhz at 95C, or $199 2600K that tops out at 5200+ at 75C?

 

[Miramonti]

Decided to with the 2600k and Asus Z68 combo for under $300 from Microcenter over this.

With the $20 CPU replacement plan from MC I will probably push this chip pretty hard.

I see them both together showing $315 (200+115)...is there a combo link for $300?

mobo $115
2600k $200

 

[LagunaX]

Went by Dumo's binning and tried for the lowest last 2 digits on the serial number:

 

[Tempered81]

I'd opt for a 2700k over a 2600k just for the binning and the chance of that extra 100 or 200mhz, but $199 is a deal.

 

[spacejamz]

if anyone cares, 2600k appears to be out of stock at MC...webpage for it is no longer there (2600 for $249 or 2500k for $179 still there though). glad I went out at lunch to get one

 

[LagunaX]

Looks like there is another U.K. review mirroring my results:
http://forums.aria.co.uk/showthread.php/100021-3rd-GEN-Intel-CPU-Semi-Stable-Testing-*Preview*-56K-WARNING

 

[Miramonti]

if anyone cares, 2600k appears to be out of stock at MC...webpage for it is no longer there (2600 for $249 or 2500k for $179 still there though). glad I went out at lunch to get one

link

 

[Miramonti]

There are only a few stores that have 10+ at this point tho, most are out of stock or only have a couple. 10+ are:

Denver
Kansas City
Detroit
St Louis
Long Island
Ohio (northeast and central, cincinatti is oos)

 

[spacejamz]

link

sorry...mine was set to my local MC (Dallas) so it didnt show up when I filtered by 1155 socket type. My bad...

 

[Grooveriding]

Haha, man did you see the graphs in the link you posted? It's 400mhz slower & 20C hotter, and it even has watercooling.

I wouldn't call it a fail in comparison to BD. It's not a fail in comparison to SB, it's the same thing. But the SB at 5.2 bests the IB at 4.8 in most of those benchmarks, while being 20C lower temperatures. Seems like it would be a no brainer for an enthusiast.

$335 3770K that tops out at 4700mhz at 95C, or $199 2600K that tops out at 5200+ at 75C?

I think that is exactly the disappointment with IB if these temp/volt characteristics play out. For an enthusiast, OC IB is no better than OC SB, possibly worse in terms of thermals.

Overclock them both to their sane limits on air cooling and they perform the same once they hit their thermal threshold.

For your average end-user they are going to be great. Most of the complaints we are seeing here is that they offer nothing new for an enthusiast. From what I've seen they may even be worse in terms of running hotter at oc clocks that match the performance of oc SB. Also keep in mind with the smaller process we may see degradation sooner at a given voltage point than you do on SB.

 

[JAG87]

Check the temp of that 2600k at 5.2GHz again, if you can't read- its 75C compared to 97C of the 3770k.

You will be able to get same performance of the 2600k at 10% less everything, but at the massive cost of 30% more heat and it will possibly degrade faster too.

Yes, their 2600K is a cherry in a field of bananas. Go buy a regular 2600K from any store and let me know how much voltage you need for 5.2G stable. Probably like 1.5V, and you'll hit over 90C too.

Haha, man did you see the graphs in the link you posted? It's 400mhz slower & 20C hotter, and it even has watercooling.

I wouldn't call it a fail in comparison to BD. It's not a fail in comparison to SB, it's the same thing. But the SB at 5.2 bests the IB at 4.8 in most of those benchmarks, while being 20C lower temperatures. Seems like it would be a no brainer for an enthusiast.

$335 3770K that tops out at 4700mhz at 95C, or $199 2600K that tops out at 5200+ at 75C?

Yes I did see the graph, and I don't care to take IB to 4.7G and force feed it voltage. If it runs at 4.5G with 1.2V or less (which it seems that it does and at very reasonable temps) it'll be a huge success. That's comparable to 4.8G SB performance (which is already a great OC for a SB) with 30% less power.

Keep your SB if you wish.

 

[CptSpock]

Yes, their 2600K is a cherry in a field of bananas. Go buy a regular 2600K from any store and let me know how much voltage you need for 5.2G stable. Probably like 1.5V, and you'll hit over 90C too.

ok, so how come you think the 4.5G Ivy is not a cherry, maybe the norm is 4GHz, would you consider that a huge success?
From your posts, you seem to be happy with inferior performance. Maybe you should go AMD instead. Good luck in banana land.