I've realized the real problem with America.

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Amused
The real problem with America is everyone is so damn comfortable, even our poorest, that we are always looking for problems to fix. Rather than focusing on bettering ourselves we focus on the shortcomings of others and think we can fix them.

Sadly, the majority think that laws, regulations and limitations on freedoms will fix things.

I disagree. I think most people care more about bettering their situation rather than working on bettering someone else's situation. Most people look out for themselves first.

This includes those who are constantly fighting for freedom and liberty. They care about freedom, but they will prioritize the freedoms that benefit themselves first before they care about the freedoms that benefit others and this is especially true when you are dealing with freedoms which conflict with other freedoms.

Really? Then why are people so up in arms over obesity? Smoking? Drug use? Gays? Abortion?

Perfect example: In thread after thread on this forum that deals with obesity, we see people overly and irrationally offended by the obesity of others and proposing "fat taxes" and banning junk foods/fast foods.

The political buzz issues of the day are things that really affect but a small minority, yet the left and the right waste an inordinate amount of time on these issues because people are so emotional about them.

People are FAR too worried about what other people are doing, and what other people have.

The only freedom that would conflict with another is that which directly harms another. All of those are already illegal. They have been since the founding of this country. We are now taking away freedoms because people are offended, "cost to society," "for your own good," or better yet, class envy.

The problem with America is exactly as I stated. We are so comfortable we can't seem to mind our own fscking business anymore. Everytime someone sees something that offends them or shocks them, the first thought in their head is "there ought to be a law."

youre right... there ought to be a law against that.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Amused
The real problem with America is everyone is so damn comfortable, even our poorest, that we are always looking for problems to fix. Rather than focusing on bettering ourselves we focus on the shortcomings of others and think we can fix them.

Sadly, the majority think that laws, regulations and limitations on freedoms will fix things.

I disagree. I think most people care more about bettering their situation rather than working on bettering someone else's situation. Most people look out for themselves first.

This includes those who are constantly fighting for freedom and liberty. They care about freedom, but they will prioritize the freedoms that benefit themselves first before they care about the freedoms that benefit others and this is especially true when you are dealing with freedoms which conflict with other freedoms.

Really? Then why are people so up in arms over obesity? Smoking? Drug use? Gays? Abortion?

Perfect example: In thread after thread on this forum that deals with obesity, we see people overly and irrationally offended by the obesity of others and proposing "fat taxes" and banning junk foods/fast foods.

The political buzz issues of the day are things that really affect but a small minority, yet the left and the right waste an inordinate amount of time on these issues because people are so emotional about them.

People are FAR too worried about what other people are doing, and what other people have.

The only freedom that would conflict with another is that which directly harms another. All of those are already illegal. They have been since the founding of this country. We are now taking away freedoms because people are offended, "cost to society," "for your own good," or better yet, class envy.

The problem with America is exactly as I stated. We are so comfortable we can't seem to mind our own fscking business anymore. Everytime someone sees something that offends them or shocks them, the first thought in their head is "there ought to be a law."

youre right... there ought to be a law against that.

I knew that was coming.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
The real problem is all the emo people who keep trying to find problems. Please list any country at any time that has had no problems. Life isnt some sort of eutopia.....

Aren't you contradicting yourself here?

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Amused
The real problem with America is everyone is so damn comfortable, even our poorest, that we are always looking for problems to fix. Rather than focusing on bettering ourselves we focus on the shortcomings of others and think we can fix them.

Sadly, the majority think that laws, regulations and limitations on freedoms will fix things.

I disagree. I think most people care more about bettering their situation rather than working on bettering someone else's situation. Most people look out for themselves first.

This includes those who are constantly fighting for freedom and liberty. They care about freedom, but they will prioritize the freedoms that benefit themselves first before they care about the freedoms that benefit others and this is especially true when you are dealing with freedoms which conflict with other freedoms.

Really? Then why are people so up in arms over obesity? Smoking? Drug use? Gays? Abortion?

Perfect example: In thread after thread on this forum that deals with obesity, we see people overly and irrationally offended by the obesity of others and proposing "fat taxes" and banning junk foods/fast foods.

The political buzz issues of the day are things that really affect but a small minority, yet the left and the right waste an inordinate amount of time on these issues because people are so emotional about them.

People are FAR too worried about what other people are doing, and what other people have.

The only freedom that would conflict with another is that which directly harms another. All of those are already illegal. They have been since the founding of this country. We are now taking away freedoms because people are offended, "cost to society," "for your own good," or better yet, class envy.

The problem with America is exactly as I stated. We are so comfortable we can't seem to mind our own fscking business anymore. Everytime someone sees something that offends them or shocks them, the first thought in their head is "there ought to be a law."

I'm not personally offended by fatties or druggies....but I don't think they should be allowed to do whatever they want if it has a negative impact on normal people.

 

[IronWing]

In the past day or two I keep finding more uses for the statement so I've updated my sig.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Amused
The real problem with America is everyone is so damn comfortable, even our poorest, that we are always looking for problems to fix. Rather than focusing on bettering ourselves we focus on the shortcomings of others and think we can fix them.

Sadly, the majority think that laws, regulations and limitations on freedoms will fix things.

I disagree. I think most people care more about bettering their situation rather than working on bettering someone else's situation. Most people look out for themselves first.

This includes those who are constantly fighting for freedom and liberty. They care about freedom, but they will prioritize the freedoms that benefit themselves first before they care about the freedoms that benefit others and this is especially true when you are dealing with freedoms which conflict with other freedoms.

Really? Then why are people so up in arms over obesity? Smoking? Drug use? Gays? Abortion?

Perfect example: In thread after thread on this forum that deals with obesity, we see people overly and irrationally offended by the obesity of others and proposing "fat taxes" and banning junk foods/fast foods.

The political buzz issues of the day are things that really affect but a small minority, yet the left and the right waste an inordinate amount of time on these issues because people are so emotional about them.

People are FAR too worried about what other people are doing, and what other people have.

The only freedom that would conflict with another is that which directly harms another. All of those are already illegal. They have been since the founding of this country. We are now taking away freedoms because people are offended, "cost to society," "for your own good," or better yet, class envy.

The problem with America is exactly as I stated. We are so comfortable we can't seem to mind our own fscking business anymore. Everytime someone sees something that offends them or shocks them, the first thought in their head is "there ought to be a law."

I'm not personally offended by fatties or druggies....but I don't think they should be allowed to do whatever they want if it has a negative impact on normal people.

Define "negative impact."

How is someone eating or drugging themselves to a fault going to "negatively impact" you?

 

[Soundmanred]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Why are the mods allowing this to continue in so many threads? It's getting old and wasting space.

The same reason they allow you to post.
I hope you realized the irony of you posting a huge list of previous posts and complained about "wasting space".

 

[BudAshes]

Exactly what freedoms are the leftists trying to take from us besides hand guns(which i could give a shit about because like most people I don't live in the ghetto)? I believe it's the right that wants things like patriot act, making abortion illegal, making drugs illegal etc.


edit* this wasn't supposed to be a P&N thread. More of a rant and discussion about spoiled children.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: BudAshes

Exactly what freedoms are the leftists trying to take from us besides hand guns(which i could give a shit about because like most people I don't live in the ghetto)? I believe it's the right that wants things like patriot act, making abortion illegal, making drugs illegal etc.


edit* this wasn't supposed to be a P&N thread. More of a rant and discussion about spoiled children.

So because one of our freedoms isnt important to you, because of some of your prejudices, we should wipe them away?

Well the freedom to abort a baby, because of someones Gawd/lawdy/jeebus, etc, isnt important to them. Thier freedom from government ease dropping isnt important, because they dont do anything illegal.

See how your argument makes you look uneducated?

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: BudAshes

Exactly what freedoms are the leftists trying to take from us besides hand guns(which i could give a shit about because like most people I don't live in the ghetto)? I believe it's the right that wants things like patriot act, making abortion illegal, making drugs illegal etc.


edit* this wasn't supposed to be a P&N thread. More of a rant and discussion about spoiled children.

The GOP are spoiled children.

 

[ch33kym0use]

Problem is problems themselves.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: ch33kym0use
Problem is problems themselves.

That is a problem.

 

[Gothgar]

cheesecake is good

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: BudAshes

Exactly what freedoms are the leftists trying to take from us besides hand guns(which i could give a shit about because like most people I don't live in the ghetto)? I believe it's the right that wants things like patriot act, making abortion illegal, making drugs illegal etc.


edit* this wasn't supposed to be a P&N thread. More of a rant and discussion about spoiled children.

Leftist want to take the biggest freedom of all - our money.

 

[Psynaut]

I don't know if that is the problem with America, but it is definitely the problem with tv. These days, unless a show appeals to young people (or can be drastically changed in season 2 so that it does) it has a pretty small chance of getting made or lasting very long.

 

[Elstupido]

"Yeah, I'd say stupid parents are a big part of the problem. "

winner

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Amused
The real problem with America is everyone is so damn comfortable, even our poorest, that we are always looking for problems to fix. Rather than focusing on bettering ourselves we focus on the shortcomings of others and think we can fix them.

Sadly, the majority think that laws, regulations and limitations on freedoms will fix things.

I disagree. I think most people care more about bettering their situation rather than working on bettering someone else's situation. Most people look out for themselves first.

This includes those who are constantly fighting for freedom and liberty. They care about freedom, but they will prioritize the freedoms that benefit themselves first before they care about the freedoms that benefit others and this is especially true when you are dealing with freedoms which conflict with other freedoms.

Really? Then why are people so up in arms over obesity? Smoking? Drug use? Gays? Abortion?

Perfect example: In thread after thread on this forum that deals with obesity, we see people overly and irrationally offended by the obesity of others and proposing "fat taxes" and banning junk foods/fast foods.

The political buzz issues of the day are things that really affect but a small minority, yet the left and the right waste an inordinate amount of time on these issues because people are so emotional about them.

People are FAR too worried about what other people are doing, and what other people have.

The only freedom that would conflict with another is that which directly harms another. All of those are already illegal. They have been since the founding of this country. We are now taking away freedoms because people are offended, "cost to society," "for your own good," or better yet, class envy.

The problem with America is exactly as I stated. We are so comfortable we can't seem to mind our own fscking business anymore. Everytime someone sees something that offends them or shocks them, the first thought in their head is "there ought to be a law."

I'm not personally offended by fatties or druggies....but I don't think they should be allowed to do whatever they want if it has a negative impact on normal people.

Define "negative impact."

How is someone eating or drugging themselves to a fault going to "negatively impact" you?

If you can show me a crackhead who is legally obtaining the money needed to fund his habbit, then fine. But chances are, if your the type of person willing to inject poisen into your body, your also the type of person who doesn't mind stealing/killing/etc from normal people.

And fatties can be as simple as taking up too much space on public transit or on the other end, sucking more tax dollars and increasing health care costs.

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: BudAshes
Kids have too much discretionary income. In a capitalistic society discretionary income = power, and kids have way to much influence on society.

..that's it. they're the ones buying all the dopes, using the dopes and are the driving force behind the dopes economy.
Why do we give dopes so much money and power??

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: BudAshes
Kids have too much discretionary income. In a capitalistic society discretionary income = power, and kids have way to much influence on society.

..that's it. they're the ones buying all the dopes, using the dopes and are the driving force behind the dopes economy.
Why do we give dopes so much money and power??

'Cause we're dopes?

 

[RESmonkey]

religion is the problem.

 

[miketheidiot]

this thread is outrageously stupid, way to go guys.

 

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
religion is the problem.

..that can be dope too.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: Amused
The real problem with America is everyone is so damn comfortable, even our poorest, that we are always looking for problems to fix. Rather than focusing on bettering ourselves we focus on the shortcomings of others and think we can fix them.

Sadly, the majority think that laws, regulations and limitations on freedoms will fix things.

I disagree. I think most people care more about bettering their situation rather than working on bettering someone else's situation. Most people look out for themselves first.

This includes those who are constantly fighting for freedom and liberty. They care about freedom, but they will prioritize the freedoms that benefit themselves first before they care about the freedoms that benefit others and this is especially true when you are dealing with freedoms which conflict with other freedoms.

Really? Then why are people so up in arms over obesity? Smoking? Drug use? Gays? Abortion?

Perfect example: In thread after thread on this forum that deals with obesity, we see people overly and irrationally offended by the obesity of others and proposing "fat taxes" and banning junk foods/fast foods.

The political buzz issues of the day are things that really affect but a small minority, yet the left and the right waste an inordinate amount of time on these issues because people are so emotional about them.

People are FAR too worried about what other people are doing, and what other people have.

The only freedom that would conflict with another is that which directly harms another. All of those are already illegal. They have been since the founding of this country. We are now taking away freedoms because people are offended, "cost to society," "for your own good," or better yet, class envy.

The problem with America is exactly as I stated. We are so comfortable we can't seem to mind our own fscking business anymore. Everytime someone sees something that offends them or shocks them, the first thought in their head is "there ought to be a law."

I'm not personally offended by fatties or druggies....but I don't think they should be allowed to do whatever they want if it has a negative impact on normal people.

Define "negative impact."

How is someone eating or drugging themselves to a fault going to "negatively impact" you?

If you can show me a crackhead who is legally obtaining the money needed to fund his habbit, then fine. But chances are, if your the type of person willing to inject poisen into your body, your also the type of person who doesn't mind stealing/killing/etc from normal people.

And fatties can be as simple as taking up too much space on public transit or on the other end, sucking more tax dollars and increasing health care costs.

The very illegality of drugs is what causes crime.

When was the last time you heard of liquor dealers doing drive bys on each other? When was the last time you heard of drunks killing people for booze?

As for your "cost to society" argument pertaining to fat people: GOTCHYA! Now you understand why socialism is anathema to freedom. You seek to limit the freedoms/actions of others because you fear you'll have to pay for it. A very slippery slope... as sooner or later, all assumed risk will be outlawed because of "cost to society." When you want society to pay, society becomes your parent.

In short, druggies and fatties don't bother YOU at all. They do not impact your life one bit... until, of course, you seek to insert yourself into their lives that is.

MYOB. It's really that easy.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: BudAshes

Exactly what freedoms are the leftists trying to take from us besides hand guns(which i could give a shit about because like most people I don't live in the ghetto)? I believe it's the right that wants things like patriot act, making abortion illegal, making drugs illegal etc.


edit* this wasn't supposed to be a P&N thread. More of a rant and discussion about spoiled children.

Let's see... Helmet laws, seatbelt laws, soda taxes, junk food taxes, the complete disregard of the Second Amendment, drug laws (you honestly think it was only the right wing who banned drugs?).

The left pushes socialism. Socialism is anathema to freedom. You cannot expect to be cared for without the benefactor making rules to minimize risks that lead to higher costs. "Cost to society" was the argument that won the seatbelt and helmet laws and started us down a very slippery slope.

And ultimately, the left seeks to punish success and reward failure. Wealth redistribution makes everyone poor. I'd say that's the biggest freedom the left is trying to take.

Don't get me wrong, the right seeks to limit freedoms just as much... but let's face reality: The left has been much more successful in taking freedoms I have lost that affect me on an everyday basis.

 

[Whitecloak]

americans.