I've never seen so many unrepentant former Nazis in my life

[Steeplerot]

Hitler revolutionized social welfare in Germany.

there is not a political in american history that has been so glorified and
worshiped than obama.

You need to get out more it seems.

Hitler's sound economic policies? What? Slave labor? Outlawing unions so workers rights were trampled? Promising workers cars and other goods from his big industry buddies so he can garnish everyone wages and drive up the debt for war?

You have a lot to read about 1930s Germany, the 40s were even worse of course.

 

[Zebo]

Not to mention 14 million Germans (not including Jews) that died as a result of Hitler. Yeah real good for the country type of guy.

 

[Noobtastic]

You need to get out more it seems.

Hitler's sound economic policies? What? Slave labor? Outlawing unions so workers rights were trampled? Promising workers cars and other goods from his big industry buddies so he can garnish everyone wages and drive up the debt for war?

You have a lot to read about 1930s Germany, the 40s were even worse of course.

Of course, the war is what everyone talks about.

But hitler was in power for nearly a decade, and the German economy flourished under the Nazi's policies.

In fact, many of the socialist policies enacted under the Nazis continue in post-Nazi Germany.

I hate Nazi fuckers as much as the next guy but we cannot rewrite history.

 

[Craig234]

Man, we have some idiots in this forum. Calling the Nazi Party socialists, despite the name, is about like calling the United States founding fathers monarchists.

 

[Albatross]

National-Socialsim was a catastrophe for Germany:few remember that until Hitler took power,the language of science was German;after Hitler, the hemorrhage of intelligence dethroned German for English and will probably stay that way for a long time.

 

[Zebo]

Of course, the war is what everyone talks about.

But hitler was in power for nearly a decade, and the German economy flourished under the Nazi's policies.

In fact, many of the socialist policies enacted under the Nazis continue in post-Nazi Germany.

I hate Nazi fuckers as much as the next guy but we cannot rewrite history.

You need to read up on Nazi resistance and how many died due to fascist regime. My mom is writing a book on it right now covering the womens angle but it's insane over 3 million in those "flourishing" years.

 

[Noobtastic]

You need to read up on Nazi resistance and how many died due to fascist regime. My mom is writing a book on it right now covering the womens angle but it's insane over 3 million in those "flourishing" years.

im well aware.

but hitler wouldnt have survived if the german government was not so tied up in circular loans.

the standard of living increased exponentially and the german military was more technologically advanced than any allied state well into WWII.

im not trying to pimp hitler. i know people who were victim to the holocaust, but its intellectual dishonest to deny WHY germans were so supportive of hitler and the nazis and how they managed to get into power.

hitler was elected after all.

 

[Steeplerot]

im well aware.

hitler was elected after all.

Hitler was not elected, he was appointed to chancellor, in big part because of his thugs. (The SA)


Using violence and anti-Communist hysteria to their advantage, on election day, March 6, 1933, the Nazis increased their result to 44% of the vote, making them the largest party in Germany, but still not giving them an absolute majority. Nevertheless, continuing to use violence or the threat of it, plus clever political subterfuge, Hitler consolidated his power in the parliament until he had successfully, and apparently legally, suppressed all the other political parties.


Hitler was never elected democratically. He took over like a super corrupt dictator, with violence and threat.

 

[boomerang]

Some of you should pick up a copy of 'Liberal Fascism' by Jonah Goldberg. It will shed some light on the origins of the Nazi's. Left - you bet.

I've said this before but here it goes again. Many of you were taught using textbooks that were 'sanitized' for lack of a better term. Have you been paying any attention to the hubub in Texas over school textbooks? This has been going on for a long, long time. Sometimes the left wins, sometimes the right.

I've gone through life under the assumption that whatever I'm reading or hearing is not necessarily the truth.

 

[Wheezer]

I never realized there were so many until I saw this documentary: The Nazis: A Warning from history. While I hope that nothing like that ever happens again, I cannot help but survey Europe today and see so many right-wing parties in power. Instead of going after Jews, now they are targeting immigrants. By the way, has anyone thoroughly documented Hitler's beef against the Jews and has there been a thorough rebuttal? I ask because there are so many neo-Nazis and rightwingers. Instead of labelling them wackos and crazies, have people actually tried rebutting their accusations in a logical manner?

It was ethnic cleansing pure and simple and while you "hope" it never happens again it goes on every day in places like Africa, but as long as it does not happen in Europe it's ok.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Umm, I think you're forgetting history. Nazi was the national socialist party.

It took over auto manufacturing, it took over banking, it took over health care.

See the pattern here? Obama = Hitler. Learn from history and stop it.

Bush=Hitler?

After all the, bailout happened on Bush's term.

But hey, don't let facts get in the way of your irrational hatred.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Umm, I think you're forgetting history. Nazi was the national socialist party.

It took over auto manufacturing, it took over banking, it took over health care.

See the pattern here? Obama = Hitler. Learn from history and stop it.

Hiya, Dr. Goebbels.

Troll, much?

I won't take up your time being that you have so many lies and propaganda to spread.

And those book burnings to tend to .....


btw --- What is great about you and your GOP brethren in threads like this is the amazing correlation you have with the Nazzees.

So. Troll on, comrade. And, pssst ....

You guys still hate the Reds and the Commies, right?




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[Hayabusa Rider]

Man, we have some idiots in this forum. Calling the Nazi Party socialists, despite the name, is about like calling the United States founding fathers monarchists.

The Nazi's did not own the means of production. They merely controlled it. It's more in line with what many in this country want.

 

[WHAMPOM]

What? Look at Hitler and then compare his actions with Obama. They are one and the same. Learn from history.

Organized Brown Shirt Followers disrupting opposition meetings? Whoopsie! Ya right, learn from history, any other big lies you want to tell?

 

[Genx87]

This could be one of the dumbest threads I have read on P&N. That is saying something.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

This could be one of the dumbest threads I have read on P&N. That is saying something.

I lost the ability to tell chicken from pigeon poop long ago. How can you tell?

 

[Genx87]

I lost the ability to tell chicken from pigeon poop long ago. How can you tell?

The one liners Obama=Hitler or Bush=Hitler was my first clue.
One policy suddenly makes somebody the embodiment of evil.

 

[heyheybooboo]

The Nazi's did not own the means of production. They merely controlled it. It's more in line with what many in this country want.

LOL

Good one.

Perhaps you will share with us The Secret Plan to control production.

This could be one of the dumbest threads I have read on P&N. That is saying something.

I'm with ya. We are reaching a new high in lows.

Is that you, Liz Cheney?

 

[Craig234]

The Nazi's did not own the means of production. They merely controlled it. It's more in line with what many in this country want.

Don't add further to the idiocy by ignoring the differences between fascism and socialism.

Industry is a center of wealth generation, governments' power derives in part from it.

That's not particular to any ideology. While every credible form of government involves some relationship between industry and government, there are big differences.

You might recall the end goal of communism was essentially no government at all. That's about as practical as your argument of fascism and socialism's similarity.

Hitler's 'control' of industry included a militarist government and authoritarianism; a socialist government is more likely to 'control' industry to protect the people from exploitation.

For example, Chile nationalized its copper mining, its top resource, away from US corporations who were extracting massive wealth. This was credited with greatly aiding their economy, keeping the wealth in Chilean society (and somewhat in the better buildings helping in the earthquake) - it's a far different motive than fascist control.

If you can't tell the difference between the 'control' practiced by a Nazi Germany and a Sweden, you need to get a bit more informed.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

Hitler revolutionized social welfare in Germany.

Hitler also delivered on many of his promises. His economic policies were sound and he expanded the middle class immensely.

His economic polices were not sound for the long term. While they were effective for the short term goal of rearming Germany and expanding its industrial base it would not of been sustainable in the long term due to limited resources and capital. Hence the resource grabbing as they marched through Western Europe, North Africa and Eastern Europe.

His social, industrial and military polices depended on massive government expenditures and manipulation of industries and people that would not be viable or sustainable if NAZI Germany had continued into existence beyond 1945. He economy would of felt the burst of the bubble they were creating eventually in a Keynes style economic. implosion.

 

[woolfe9999]

Um. You know that the Nazis had much more in common with communists and "progressives" than conservatives.

In fact, with the exception of a focus on a 'pure race' the Nazis had nothing to distinguish their societies from the communists.

THe Nazis, including their latter day counter-parts, utterly despise liberals with a furious and violent passion.

- wolf

 

[Red Dawn]

THe Nazis, including their latter day counter-parts, utterly despise liberals with a furious and violent passion.

- wolf

No shit, you don't see the Klan and White Supremacist Groups who embrace Nazism getting all warm and fuzzy with Liberals, just the opposite.

 

[woolfe9999]

Hitler revolutionized social welfare in Germany.

You did know Germany was the technology and social powerhouse? They recovered faster than any country affected by WWI. Germans were one of the most educated people on the planet, certainly than Americans.

Hitler also delivered on many of his promises. His economic policies were sound and he expanded the middle class immensely.

at least in nazi germany, a large portion of society remained unmolested,
while in the soviet union EVERYONE suffered because of the retarded
communist equal-distribution acts.

people tend to forget why germans supported hitler even during the war.

the world must not be fooled by charisma.

it is likely obama could deliver on his promises, but it could easily enslave Americans.

there is not a political in american history that has been so glorified and
worshiped than obama.

drawing analogies to hitler is morally offensive, but i cant say it is any worse than sweden claiming he is better than jesus.

Hitler's Germany experienced an economic upsurge for one core reason: massive armaments production. Beyond that broad policy, Hitler did not even manage the German economy. That was done by Schacht and Goering. Hitler was no liberal. He dissolved all the trade unions in Germany and hanged workers who tried to strike.

You want to compare Obama to Hitler. As a Jew, I find that personally offensive. It trivializes the oppression of Nazi Germany. It trivializes the Holocaust. And it totally bankrupts any credibility you might claim as a proponent of Israel here or elsewhere.

- wolf

 

[woolfe9999]

No shit, you don't see the Klan and White Supremacist Groups who embrace Nazism getting all warm and fuzzy with Liberals, just the opposite.

I think anyone who is even remotely considering buying this bullshit should mosey on over to Stormfront and discover how they really feel about liberals. They are on the "Great Day of the Rope" hit list right after Jews.

- wolf

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

LOL

Good one.

Perhaps you will share with us The Secret Plan to control production.

Well part of that was a kick in the pants to be sure, but while neither citizens or corporations were physically owned by the Nazis, you did what they told you. You know what happened if you didn't.

The other part is that the government can make it quite unpleasant if you don't follow their rules even if it's the right thing to do, and many want to extend that control. I've cited an sad example elsewhere that was met with "well nothing's perfect".

I needn't go into that again.