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quikah

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Originally posted by: Jumpem


It's enterntaining, and fun, but boring. It seems like I just go on little quests.

Well what did you think you would be doing? Is their something you think would make it more fun for you? It is difficult to answer your complaints when you haven't articulated them at all.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: Hadsus
Learn how to post rather than troll....ie., why you are dissatisfied and/or what your expectations were.

:thumbsdown:

Trolling not found. GTFO!

It simply seems boring. YOu run around kill something, then get another quest. What else is there to do?

 

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Originally posted by: quikah
Well what did you think you would be doing? Is their something you think would make it more fun for you? It is difficult to answer your complaints when you haven't articulated them at all.

I'm not sure what to complain about really. The game looks good and plays well. It's just not intriguing me.
 

quikah

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Well, if you can't figure out what the game lacks for you it is hard to suggest wether you should stick with it or move on. Yes it is all about doing quests (killing, collecting, escorting). I would suggest looking at the coming soon link on the WoW webpage to see if any of those features sound interesting to you. Also check out the Battlegrounds preview at www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds.html to see if that is something you are looking for. If that is not enough for you, I would suggest moving on, perhaps check back with the game in six months to see if anything new has developed.
 

Jumpem

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I started a dwarf warrior. It seems to fit me much better. :) What training should I do? All that I can afford... or?
 

RealityTime

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Originally posted by: Gurck
What makes you think/say EQ2 is any better?

Because I've been playing EQ2 since its release. :roll:

In the probably hundreds of hours I've logged since then, its crashed about twice. And those were partially my fault. I was running the game minimized while I had my store opened, while browing in Firefox, DLing BTs, and streaming video files from desktop to my laptop.

Having played both WoW and EQ2, I can easily say that WoW is by far the simpler game. EQ2 is not. I've got a level 22 monk and I'm still learning things about the game. :) I had a level 20 NE Hunter in WoW (within 3 days), and I'd already done pretty much everything that was worth doing in WoW. The PvP combat didn't really do it for me, a few small battles certainly paled in comparison to the 200 player seige warfare I experience in Shadowbane. (Shadowbane is too laggy, won't discuss it further) Also, the level of maturity of players was VERY low. A lot of the Bnet crowd migrated to WoW. You get a lot of immature players in WoW. Granted, there are a lot in EQ2 as well, but if you play on an RP server (Antonia Bayle, Lucan D'Lere), then you don't have to deal with it. SOE came down VERY hard on the few people strupid enough to use 1337 sp3ak on the Lucan D'Lere server. :)

It was kind a funny actually, he did it in shout in Antonica. Few moments after he did it, a system message came up notifying the server of his 72 hour ban and reminding us that such was banned in the EULA for the RP server. :)

Blizzard can code a game very well, and WoW is a very stable game. But gameplay is the fundamental issue here. And WoW is a very simplistic game. Its like comparing watered down beer to EQ2's straight vodka shot.


? rofl.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: Hadsus
Learn how to post rather than troll....ie., why you are dissatisfied and/or what your expectations were.

:thumbsdown:

Trolling not found. GTFO!

It simply seems boring. YOu run around kill something, then get another quest. What else is there to do?

Group up with others? Raids? PvP? Profession grinding? What would YOU like to do?
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Group up with others? Raids? PvP? Profession grinding? What would YOU like to do?

Solo. I only like other players for trading. Not sure about professions for a warrior.
 

Genx87

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At present, EQ2 doesn't have their PvP servers up yet, but they are coming.

Last I heard the lead dev for EQ2 basically said dont expect any kind of pvp including duels.

Also, the level of maturity of players was VERY low. A lot of the Bnet crowd migrated to WoW. You get a lot of immature players in WoW. Granted, there are a lot in EQ2 as well, but if you play on an RP server (Antonia Bayle, Lucan D'Lere), then you don't have to deal with it. SOE came down VERY hard on the few people strupid enough to use 1337 sp3ak on the Lucan D'Lere server.

Well duh, comparing a run of the mill server with an RP server will generate a different crowd.
EQ2 has their share of assclowns just like WoW does. Most Bnet kiddies wont pay for a monthly charge so dont expect them to flock to WoW.

They're missing alot of features too, such as the ability to communicate in different languages

In DAOC I couldnt communicate with the other two realms. Why would you think you can communicate with your enemy?

As for WoW. It is another MMORPG just like EQ2 was just like Shadowbane, DAOC, EQ, and UO were.

You can only invent the wheel once. So I think people get all hyped up over a new MMORGP and realize it is the same core game with a different look.

WoW is a nice game and will get better when they implement heroes and battlefields. But it isnt anything extraordinary.

I hear the same about EQ2 but it doesnt mean either game sucks.

 

ArmchairAthlete

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They're missing alot of features too, such as the ability to communicate in different languages

Last time I played my character could speak both Darnassian and Common. Learning different languages isn't in yet.

Dwarves can speak in Dwarvish and I can't read it, and so on.

Gotta try the game at least until you get through your first instance on a decent party.
 

LeetViet

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Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
They're missing alot of features too, such as the ability to communicate in different languages

Last time I played my character could speak both Darnassian and Common. Learning different languages isn't in yet.

Dwarves can speak in Dwarvish and I can't read it, and so on.

Gotta try the game at least until you get through your first instance on a decent party.

I've probably played more than you, it just doesn't seem worth it to me until the other features promised since Closed Beta are delivered.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Group up with others? Raids? PvP? Profession grinding? What would YOU like to do?

Solo. I only like other players for trading. Not sure about professions for a warrior.


You only like to solo, then WTF are you doing with an MMO? :p I'm sorry, but I can hardly see the validity in complaining about an MMO when all you want to do is play by yourself .. go buy the Baldur's Gate series and play through that :p
 

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I know one thing is fact and that is Ultima Online (Pre UO:R or UO:R before stunpunch) was and still would be the greatest game of ALL time. Hands down...

Not graphics wise but the gameplay and PVP was unmatched
 

RealityTime

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truthfully i think dragonshard will own all your base :D D&D has a huge possibility of depth, and judging from screenshots, the graphics are fantastic. If the game is crafted well, it may be the top dog.
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Originally posted by: Jumpem
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Group up with others? Raids? PvP? Profession grinding? What would YOU like to do?

Solo. I only like other players for trading. Not sure about professions for a warrior.


You only like to solo, then WTF are you doing with an MMO? :p I'm sorry, but I can hardly see the validity in complaining about an MMO when all you want to do is play by yourself .. go buy the Baldur's Gate series and play through that :p

I mostly like to solo, doesn't mean I want to play offline RPGs.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
You only like to solo, then WTF are you doing with an MMO? :p I'm sorry, but I can hardly see the validity in complaining about an MMO when all you want to do is play by yourself .. go buy the Baldur's Gate series and play through that :p

Because there aren't any good single player rpg's out now.
 

Velk

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Originally posted by: Bateluer
At present, EQ2 doesn't have their PvP servers up yet, but they are coming.

It will be a cold day in hell.

What makes you even have the remotest idea that there is even a possibility that someone at SOE would even consider thinking about whether they wanted to do this ? ;p


 

TheVrolok

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Some enlighten me to the point in playing an MMO if you never group? I solo too, but I still group with my guildies.. Explain to me what the difference is between an offline RPG and a completely solo MMO is.. and lastly, RPGs don't need to be new to be good. Like I said, play through the BG Series, I and II and both expansions, that'll take up some time.
 
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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Some enlighten me to the point in playing an MMO if you never group? I solo too, but I still group with my guildies.. Explain to me what the difference is between an offline RPG and a completely solo MMO is.. and lastly, RPGs don't need to be new to be good. Like I said, play through the BG Series, I and II and both expansions, that'll take up some time.

I mostly like to solo myself. But even people who solo mostly still like the interaction with people. I hunt solo, but I like to BS and PvP and buy and sell stuff........I just don't like having to look for groups and be stuck with them whereever they go and serve a singular role that I do over and over and over. Ever play a healer and drop a nuke on some mob.......you get screamed at to JUST HEAL.

Also, SRPGs are scripted, so it's like reading a book. In an MMO, even solo, you get to choose your path as a character and make it totally unique and other people get to see, even if they don't group with, your character and his partiuclar idium.

Sorry if people like this offend your rigid view of the MMO player as a group monkey.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Some enlighten me to the point in playing an MMO if you never group? I solo too, but I still group with my guildies.. Explain to me what the difference is between an offline RPG and a completely solo MMO is.. and lastly, RPGs don't need to be new to be good. Like I said, play through the BG Series, I and II and both expansions, that'll take up some time.

I mostly like to solo myself. But even people who solo mostly still like the interaction with people. I hunt solo, but I like to BS and PvP and buy and sell stuff........I just don't like having to look for groups and be stuck with them whereever they go and serve a singular role that I do over and over and over. Ever play a healer and drop a nuke on some mob.......you get screamed at to JUST HEAL.

Also, SRPGs are scripted, so it's like reading a book. In an MMO, even solo, you get to choose your path as a character and make it totally unique and other people get to see, even if they don't group with, your character and his partiuclar idium.

Sorry if people like this offend your rigid view of the MMO player as a group monkey.


I solo a solid 70% of the time, but this guy was saying he ONLY solo's.. And I don't know what kind of groups you get yourself involved with, if you get in a group and are forced to do this one thing or that then that's your own fault for sticking in the group. I've never had a problem with being in a group, if there's something I don't like, I just leave it. Easy. Not to mention this game, WoW, was specifically intended to include grouping evidence of that occurs in every elite quest. You cannot solo many (in fact, very few) elite quests until you are so far above the level you receive the quest that the rewards are nearly worthless. And what path are you choosing? It's hardly like your game experience is unique, this game has a finite (excluding expansions of course) set of quests to do, and everyone's doing them. Yes, the characters are not (hopefully) cookie cutters by the end, but to say totally unique is quite a bit off..
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
Some enlighten me to the point in playing an MMO if you never group? I solo too, but I still group with my guildies.. Explain to me what the difference is between an offline RPG and a completely solo MMO is.. and lastly, RPGs don't need to be new to be good. Like I said, play through the BG Series, I and II and both expansions, that'll take up some time.

I mostly like to solo myself. But even people who solo mostly still like the interaction with people. I hunt solo, but I like to BS and PvP and buy and sell stuff........I just don't like having to look for groups and be stuck with them whereever they go and serve a singular role that I do over and over and over. Ever play a healer and drop a nuke on some mob.......you get screamed at to JUST HEAL.

Also, SRPGs are scripted, so it's like reading a book. In an MMO, even solo, you get to choose your path as a character and make it totally unique and other people get to see, even if they don't group with, your character and his partiuclar idium.

Sorry if people like this offend your rigid view of the MMO player as a group monkey.

Hate to agree with anything a Sony customer says :p but you make an excellent argument here, :thumbsup:
 

mchammer187

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game probably isn't for you then

you should probably level up to at least 20 before you decide you don't enjoy it though



i have logged in 8-11 days of played time(last time i checked was sunday which was approaching 9 days , which doesn't count AFK time toward it

so that is a bit insane considering thing game has only been out just over 5 weeks


 
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Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I solo a solid 70% of the time, but this guy was saying he ONLY solo's.. And I don't know what kind of groups you get yourself involved with, if you get in a group and are forced to do this one thing or that then that's your own fault for sticking in the group. I've never had a problem with being in a group, if there's something I don't like, I just leave it. Easy. Not to mention this game, WoW, was specifically intended to include grouping evidence of that occurs in every elite quest. You cannot solo many (in fact, very few) elite quests until you are so far above the level you receive the quest that the rewards are nearly worthless. And what path are you choosing?

There are good groups and there are bad groups. Unless you have a guild you belong to, which is pracitcally as much a life committment as marriage and appeals to me not at all, then groups are a total crap shoot. Getting groups is a necessary evil at times, but they ARE a hassle to get, so saying you can just drop one and hop into another just like that is either naiive or exaggeration.

It's hardly like your game experience is unique, this game has a finite (excluding expansions of course) set of quests to do, and everyone's doing them. Yes, the characters are not (hopefully) cookie cutters by the end, but to say totally unique is quite a bit off..

If you think a character is comprised of the quests he completes or the gear he wears then you are getting NOTHING out of these games or WoW is worse than I thought. Characters have personalities and pentients and specialties. I still remember the people I hung out with in UO 7 years ago. Each of them is is totally distinct in my mind. They each had tendencies and flaws and certain skill levels. For example, I named my character timber wolf because I hunted primarily in the forests south of the dungeon Shame where there were lots of wolves and swooped down on the evil players who haunted the crossroads nearby. People looking for me knew to check there or the Trinsic bank roof top. They also knew not to ask me to join their guild and that I was always down for fighting PKs even when grossly outnumbered and that I would be bringing a heavy crossbow to battle. And that I had a large stockpile of pre-patch archery weapons and lived in a green tent by the river near the hedge maze. Meanwhile, there were other people who played mostly inside dungeons or hung out in Vesper on the other side of Britannia who would never know of me at all. That's the whole magic and, frankly, the point of playing these games.

And, Gurck, I haven't bought anything Sony since a CD walkman in the early 90's. I did play EQ for a few months, but I only Beta'd SWG.