I've been concealed carrying for a little over a year now...

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OutHouse

Lifer
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Please tell me how I pissed him off? What action did I take that warranted him threatening me and then then coming towards me?

Again..I never drew. I only decided at what point I would draw. I left myself plenty of outs.

Your out should have been to walk away and stop agitating the man further

You have no business with a ccw. People like you scare the shit out of me. Common you pissed off a guy and you want to show your manhood with pulling your piece... turn in your card before somebody gets hurt.
 
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OverVolt

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Takes a pretty special person to Conceal Carry today.

They pretty much swear off women, drink, drugs, etc.

Their todays new "Priests."

Self inflicted, of course.

-John

Lmao. This is not true though.

I don't have a CCW, but if I did, I'd probably forget I had it. It would have to be the apocalypse before I pulled it out. I don't suffer from "omg everyone can see it" because I can hide things in plain sight. You can hide things better when you aren't nervous about them.

The cop wasn't actually interested in your truck, he was suspicious of you and didn't feel like doing paperwork :p.

The "Grocery store incident" could have actually been avoided with just saying no. In the city, the default answer is no. As soon as he started walking over you should have told him to get lost but the clerk did it for you. The clerk had more street smarts.

If I saw an armed robbery I'm not even sure I would intervene unless you could tell they were going to kill someone. If they're desperate like "give me the money hurry up!!!" they will take the money and run but if they are acting more sadistic/controlling then they might shoot the person anyway after they rob them.
 
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Lithium381

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OP nobody has a right to assault you not at ANY time put a hand on you. An armed society is a polite one as i hear. . . .
 

sourceninja

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Respect? I'm assuming you mean self respect, I'd never give them my business after they'd denied me the means of self defense. Do they allow armed law enforcement officers in there? They better not, if they didn't want your business...

Buffalo Wild Wings respects the right of individuals to carry firearms but we do not believe they are appropriate inside of a public restaurant. We are focused on the comfort, safety and enjoyment of all of our guests and have elected to exercise our right to restrict the carrying of firearms in our restaurants. We regret any inconvenience this may cause but believe that this policy is in the best interest of all of our guests and our Team Members.

Sincerely,
Buffalo Wild Wings

They never did respond to my response asking if they serve police who are armed.
 

Number1

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OP is a danger to society and himself.
Laughing at obviously upset people and then getting ready to shoot if they react angrily is beyond retarded. And then bragging about coming close to inflicting a life changing experience to somebody.



Sick.
 

Number1

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Buffalo Wild Wings respects the right of individuals to carry firearms but we do not believe they are appropriate inside of a public restaurant. We are focused on the comfort, safety and enjoyment of all of our guests and have elected to exercise our right to restrict the carrying of firearms in our restaurants. We regret any inconvenience this may cause but believe that this policy is in the best interest of all of our guests and our Team Members.

Sincerely,
Buffalo Wild Wings

They never did respond to my response asking if they serve police who are armed.

Why should they respond to a stupid question like this?
 

sourceninja

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Why should they respond to a stupid question like this?

Because they believe firearms are not appropriate in restaurants. So how do they serve police?

Honestly though, I just don't eat there anymore. It's been years now. Even if I could carry a gun there I wouldn't eat there, the food quality I had the last time my work used them for catering was horrible.
 

OverVolt

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Because they believe firearms are not appropriate in restaurants. So how do they serve police?

Honestly though, I just don't eat there anymore. It's been years now. Even if I could carry a gun there I wouldn't eat there, the food quality I had the last time my work used them for catering was horrible.

Umm yes the only real reason to go there is the beer & wings. Considering all the team rivalries if two opposing teams walk in both carrying a CCW and start drinking LOL. That is why they don't allow firearms.

Even a cop around here had killed someone while drinking at a bar. Alcohol + guns has always been a bad combo just like alcohol + driving.
 

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Rude, check your state laws. Can not shoot a guy over simple assault in S.C. Also, can not escalate a situation and then shoot.

source, can't carry in a place that serves alcohol in SC. That varies a lot state to state. One says you can carry but must be open carry while in a bar. Strange.
 

sourceninja

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Umm yes the only real reason to go there is the beer & wings. Considering all the team rivalries if two opposing teams walk in both carrying a CCW and start drinking LOL. That is why they don't allow firearms.

Even a cop around here had killed someone while drinking at a bar. Alcohol + guns has always been a bad combo just like alcohol + driving.

That's why it's against the law in my state makes it illegal to drink and wear a gun (Actually, it's against the law to be legally drunk and carrying a firearm, it's not illegal to drink). So it's a non-issue. You don't find my CCW holders who are criminals, so this is a non-issue.

I have gone to bars with my gun, but I'm not stupid enough to drink while I'm there.
 

lokiju

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I've been carrying every day I can as I cannot carry into work for the past two years or so now.

I do agree with the point about a good holster.

I finally said screw it and stopped trying other cheaper holsters and bought a Crossbreed Mini Tuck this past April and have no regrets about doing so.

I was carrying a Ruger LCP .380 as pocket carry for the 1st year and a half but then I picked up a Taurus Slim 740 .40 call single stack and that's what I carry with the Crossbreed.

I've had those moments where I had to reach up high for something and then realize my shirt came up enough to probably reveal a glimpse of my gun. I always do a quick check around to see if anyone noticed, but so far it's never been obvious if someone has.

I am obsessive about safety when carrying and storing when not in use as I have a 3 year old son.

I think the more I carry though the more natural it becomes.
 

z1ggy

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OP is a danger to society and himself.
Laughing at obviously upset people and then getting ready to shoot if they react angrily is beyond retarded. And then bragging about coming close to inflicting a life changing experience to somebody.



Sick.

I don't get the tone that he was bragging about it. Just sharing a story. It's pretty clear with all these posts on who is pro-gun and who is anti-gun. I don't think it is extreme that he simply just started to reach for it. The guy could have been a lunatic with a weapon on him, you don't know anything about this perosn. Shit, majority of cops place their hand on their holster as they walk up to a car for a routine traffic stop just in case the person inside is ready to hurt them. Some of you people are totally over reacting.
 

edro

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I don't see much point is daily carry, but I am 100% fine with people who do.

To me, concealed carry is about mitigating risk of harm to myself or my family.
It's not about saving the day when some punk robs the grocery store or shooting someone who wants to punch you for tailgating.

To me, carrying a loaded weapon every day greatly increases the risk of harm to me and my family. (leaving a round out of chamber reduces that risk greatly)

The only time I carry is when there is a higher likelihood of harm to myself.
Craigslist deals, night time activities in questionable neighborhoods, camping, etc.

Otherwise, the highest likelihood of harm is while we are at home, sleeping.
In that case, the weapon is always nearby.
 

Number1

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I don't get the tone that he was bragging about it. Just sharing a story. It's pretty clear with all these posts on who is pro-gun and who is anti-gun. I don't think it is extreme that he simply just started to reach for it. The guy could have been a lunatic with a weapon on him, you don't know anything about this perosn. Shit, majority of cops place their hand on their holster as they walk up to a car for a routine traffic stop just in case the person inside is ready to hurt them. Some of you people are totally over reacting.

I own 8 hunting rifles so I am not anti guns. I think that somebody who doesn't know enough not to laugh at upset people doesn't have what it take to CCW responsively.

My brother killed himself with his motorcycle. When I arrived at the scene, I fell in the water trying to identify the motorcycle. Some bystander laughed and thought it was funny. We almost got in a fist fight. Good thing most Canadians don't CCW, I could have been shot.

Then maybe the OP thought it was OK to laugh at the person knowing the person could do nothing about it.
 

Paul98

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i wish i could cc. i know if i did and i happened to be in that theater in aurora, there would be 11 less deaths that night.

I think you mean more deaths, crowded theater, in the dark, gas in the theater, the guy wearing body armor. Some idiot pulling their gun sounds like a great idea in that situation...
 

edro

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I think you mean more deaths, crowded theater, in the dark, gas in the theater, the guy wearing body armor. Some idiot pulling their gun sounds like a great idea in that situation...
really?
I don't think it would have made it any worse.
I'm sure the victims would like their chances had they been armed.
 

ViviTheMage

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Nothing wrong with carrying a gun. I know lots of people who regularly open carry. You probably shouldn't be thinking of drawing on everyone who looks at you crossways. You also shouldnt be patting yourself on the back for not drawing on people who cut you off in traffic. Just something to think about.

Exactly how I felt after reading the OP...a bit much really. I do not have my CCW.

It's also probably your first year gitters carrying as well....hopefully you do not think that pulling for every situation is the ONLY out. Think about it, how often do cops actually pull, unless there is a threat of another weapon? Even in a very, very heated situation, they still don't pull unless threatened.
 
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velillen

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The cop wasn't actually interested in your truck, he was suspicious of you and didn't feel like doing paperwork :p.

Haha that's what I thought right after but after thinking about it after the fact I'm sure it was a bit of both. Just the things he was asking and looking at (the tow harness.for example) make me think he actually was a bit interested in the truck. Though me being calm and willing to talk I'm sure saved me so grief.

Though not sure he could have done anything anyways since at that point it could have counted as open carry and he has no grounds to give grief on just open carrying in wa state. Not that I would have cared ivstill would have let him see my paperwork
 

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...and its definitely been a learning experience. I thought I would share for those that are interested in the subject. Please feel free to add your own thoughts and experiences.


My first time out carrying it was to the grocery store. It was a really busy store and I was paranoid like never before. I thought everyone was staring at me and my gun and I thought for sure at any moment a flood of cops was going to come in and put me on the floor at gunpoint. Turns out no one noticed or if they did they didn't care. I still have a hard time remembering that if someone does catch a glimpse of my gun, the worst thing that will happen is I'll get to talk to a cop. But I've never had anyone notice.

I am much more polite while I am carrying. I let more cars in front of me, I hold more doors open, I say thank you and please a lot more as well. This isn't something I do intentionally, it just happens. I think its the fact that I want to avoid confrontations. Confrontations are never fun...when there are guns involved confrontations can turn very bad, very quick.

On that subject, I've only had one real confrontation. I was getting some work done on my car and some guy was causing a fuss. He was cussing up a storm as he was leaving the store. I have a natural reaction to people being pissed off: I laugh. Apparently this guy didn't like that and he started cussing at me. This made me smile even more because he had no reason to be mad at me. Then he stopped heading outside and started heading towards me, still cussing. As he took a couple steps I felt my thumb go under my shirt on my right side, readying to draw. This made me consciously decide that if he took one more step in my direction, I was going to draw and keep him at a safe distance. Before that did happen, an employee told the guy to GTFO and he did. I don't think he'll never know how close he came to having a life changing experience.

I've had many road ragers cuss me out, flip me off, cut me off...but I've never thought about drawing on any of them. Thought about ramming them...but not shooting them.

The more I carry, the more I shoot, the more I touch guns...the more I am scared of having an accident. I've always been a safety nut but now its almost OCD how careful I am around guns.

A good belt and holster really are important. Having a cheap holster could cost you dearly and having a cheap belt could end in a bunch of people knowing you have a gun. That's not a good thing.

I know a lot of people that carry, who you would never guess they are gun guys/girls. It turns out normal people like guns too.


So those are the main things I can think of at the moment. Please feel free to add your thoughts and questions. Let's keep this civil please.

Thanks for sharing your experience. Its really nice to hear about good experiences with guns - especially conceal carry - since I hope to eventually move to a state where I can conceal carry.
 

Mxylplyx

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Respect? I'm assuming you mean self respect, I'd never give them my business after they'd denied me the means of self defense. Do they allow armed law enforcement officers in there? They better not, if they didn't want your business...

Maybe they just dont want people like you turning a bar fight into a gun fight....maybe?