I've been concealed carrying for a little over a year now...

[techie81]

While you need to be very careful about pulling a gun on someone its more about perceived danger. If YOU feel like your life is in danger then you should be justified in pulling a gun on someone. However, you shouldn't be trying to act like a badass and intimidating people just because. Owning and carrying a gun comes with a great responsibility, to do the right thing.

 

[olds]

This made me consciously decide that if he took one more step in my direction, I was going to draw and keep him at a safe distance.

I didn't read the thread so I am sure you have already been reamed...
You draw and then shoot, not threaten.

 

[Todd33]

So your way of dealing with things is wanting to start fights? You more of a concern then OP is.

He was at the scene of his brother's death and emotionally distraught. Most people would lash out if some jokers were laughing at his situation. I mourn for the loss of a time when men could get in a fist fight and have a beer afterward. Now everyone wants to kill everyone else from a distance, cowards.

 

[Jeffg010]

He was at the scene of his brother's death and emotionally distraught. Most people would lash out if some jokers were laughing at his situation. I mourn for the loss of a time when men could get in a fist fight and have a beer afterward. Now everyone wants to kill everyone else from a distance, cowards.

So you like to start fights too I see your logic. Only reason you call some one a coward is because now you can't start a fight because you are afraid of someone with CC to stop you. Guess what CC works to stop a fight.

 

[endlessmike]

You people need to learn to read HE DID NOT PULL THE GUN OUT! So all you guys saying he did are making shit up. Go read it again he moved his hand not pull the gun out. Now you guys are trying to make him sound like some kind of gun nut that is looking to kill some one. When you are making shit up.

The real problem was the guy you know wanted to start a fight in the store. You guys for get about that? If someone is a threat you should have the right to stop it. Laughing at the guy in the store does not give the guy the right to go after ya.

This was mostly civil for almost three pages, thanks for getting it back on track. So far the most accusatory, inflammatory, and agressive participant here is you. Nobody said he pulled the gun, and I don't think anyone called him a nut who wants to kill someone. We are questioning his actions, which he shared with us willingly. I think that's allowed, and you're free to disagree.

It's a discussion, but you are acting like you want to turn it into an arguement (which by your logic might as well be a scenario that warrants a Mexican standoff).

 

[Lifted]

You people need to learn to read HE DID NOT PULL THE GUN OUT! So all you guys saying he did are making shit up. Go read it again he moved his hand not pull the gun out. Now you guys are trying to make him sound like some kind of gun nut that is looking to kill some one. When you are making shit up.

The real problem was the guy you know wanted to start a fight in the store. You guys for get about that? If someone is a threat you should have the right to stop it. Laughing at the guy in the store does not give the guy the right to go after ya.

So your way of dealing with things is wanting to start fights? You more of a concern then OP is.

Did you recently start a thread about a cap using an alt account?

 

[Jeffg010]

This was mostly civil for almost three pages, thanks for getting it back on track. So far the most accusatory, inflammatory, and agressive participant here is you. Nobody said he pulled the gun, and I don't think anyone called him a nut who wants to kill someone. We are questioning his actions, which he shared with us willingly. I think that's allowed, and you're free to disagree.

It's a discussion, but you are acting like you want to turn it into an arguement (which by your logic might as well be a scenario that warrants a Mexican standoff).

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33742203&postcount=62 claimed he pulled the gun on the guy.

 

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http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=33742203&postcount=62 claimed he pulled the gun on the guy.

Reeding, much like written, just ain't you're thang.

 

[momeNt]

Because they believe firearms are not appropriate in restaurants. So how do they serve police?

Honestly though, I just don't eat there anymore. It's been years now. Even if I could carry a gun there I wouldn't eat there, the food quality I had the last time my work used them for catering was horrible.

Police shouldn't be going into what is essentially a glorified sports bar when on duty and carrying.

Olive Garden may have a similar policy, but you didn't write to them so my response still stands

 

[God Mode]

Sparsely populated areas with less chances of meeting assholes all day is one thing but for a crowded city with assholes on every block it would be like the wild west.

 

[slag]

Seriously, in none of those situations would I even think of needing a gun. Talk about being paranoid.

For some people, me included, once you carry, its something you always have to think about. The OP was just explaining how he didn't need or feel the need to use his gun for everyday circumstances whereas I've routinely heard people say things when they get cut off or flipped off or whatever "Damn, wish I had a gun and could put them out of my misery". Even though for the most part its just talk, sometimes rage gets the better of us. The OP was just clarifying and describing day to day stressful situations.

 

[slag]

Takes a pretty special person to Conceal Carry today.

They pretty much swear off women, drink, drugs, etc.

Their todays new "Priests."

Self inflicted, of course.

-John

It doesn't take a "pretty special person" to conceal carry. Thats called being a normal human being. I don't know one person who womanizes, drinks, or does drugs outside of their home. This is not something normal that middle aged white guys do. College aged kids maybe, but not Joe Schmoe who is married with 2.5 children.

 

[sourceninja]

Police shouldn't be going into what is essentially a glorified sports bar when on duty and carrying.

Olive Garden may have a similar policy, but you didn't write to them so my response still stands

Police don't get to have lunch? It is not in any way a bar, it is a restaurant. They let kids in there...

 

[sourceninja]

Except first aid kits, insurance and bracelets can't harm you or your family accidentally.

(I'm still pro gun)

I guess I shouldn't drink that bottle of rubbing alcohol in my first aid kit?

 

[sourceninja]

Pulling your gun without having a just reason to have it out is called brandishing a weapon. Don't you remember anything from your CC class? Just because some dude is approaching you all upset is no reason to pull a gun.

CCW class? I just gave the state 120 bucks and now I get to carry guns.

In all seriousness, I think my state needs training AND qualifying before allowing people to possess CCW permits.

 

[Tommy2000GT]

I want to carry because I want to shoot legitimate bad people like road ragers who throw things at your car or get out and try to confront you. And also people who cause accidents but don't take responsibility for it

 

[slag]

Your out should have been to walk away and stop agitating the man further

You have no business with a ccw. People like you scare the shit out of me. Common you pissed off a guy and you want to show your manhood with pulling your piece... turn in your card before somebody gets hurt.

I've seen it too often that when someone walks away, it just invites the aggressor (in this case, the pissed off man), to further pursue the individual as it is a sign of weakness) There is no "correct way" to address this situation. Sometimes walking away works, sometimes standing up for yourself works. I think the OP handled himself just fine.

Who is common?

 

[clamum]

Between this thread and the Aurora, CO shooting thread, I'm surprised at the amount of people that are scared of guns.

 

[Jeffg010]

I've seen it too often that when someone walks away, it just invites the aggressor (in this case, the pissed off man), to further pursue the individual as it is a sign of weakness) There is no "correct way" to address this situation. Sometimes walking away works, sometimes standing up for yourself works. I think the OP handled himself just fine.

Who is common?

This +1

 

[kage69]

OP is a danger to society and himself.
Laughing at obviously upset people and then getting ready to shoot if they react angrily is beyond retarded. And then bragging about coming close to inflicting a life changing experience to somebody.



Sick.

I wouldn't go that far, but I agree his behavior was inappropriate for a carrier and is the stuff of a great many disasters.

OP, I respectfully suggest you learn to control your "involuntary" reactions before carrying a weapon anymore. Your reaction to that guys approach tells me you don't fully understand the burden that comes with packing iron. Actually, that bemused antagonizing behavior should have been purged from your gourd before you even applied for a permit.

Bottom line: you don't provide tinder for a fire you don't want to fight. Not trying to get preachy here, but I think at the very least you should study some Mas Ayoob literature before you get yourself or someone else killed.

http://www.amazon.com/In-Gravest-Ext.../dp/0936279001

 

[momeNt]

Police don't get to have lunch? It is not in any way a bar, it is a restaurant. They let kids in there...

I meant that they shouldn't be eating where liquor is served, cops are the last people that should be having liquid lunches.

 

[slag]

While you need to be very careful about pulling a gun on someone its more about perceived danger. If YOU feel like your life is in danger then you should be justified in pulling a gun on someone. However, you shouldn't be trying to act like a badass and intimidating people just because. Owning and carrying a gun comes with a great responsibility, to do the right thing.

Best post yet. Agree 100%

 

[sourceninja]

I meant that they shouldn't be eating where liquor is served, cops are the last people that should be having liquid lunches.

Cops must not eat out here, you can get beer at chipolte.

So no fridays, chilis, Wings, olive garden, local shops, gas stations, etc.

Basically you are saying cops can't be trusted to not order beer? Hell, I don't think I have ever ordered a beer when I was at buffalo wild wings, their selection is pure shit (the serve all 3 kinds of beer there, bud, miller, and coors).

My company prohibits drinking on the job, but my co-workers and myself are still responsible enough to go to the local bar that has great burgers and not drink.

 

[endlessmike]

Best post yet. Agree 100%

I don't disagree, but there is a difference between your life being in truly danger and taking an earful from a loudmouth knucklehead in line at a store.

Edit - and I'm not saying that was or wasn't the case here for the OP, just to clarify.

 

[Jeffg010]

Cops must not eat out here, you can get beer at chipolte.

So no fridays, chilis, Wings, olive garden, local shops, gas stations, etc.

Basically you are saying cops can't be trusted to not order beer? Hell, I don't think I have ever ordered a beer when I was at buffalo wild wings, their selection is pure shit (the serve all 3 kinds of beer there, bud, miller, and coors).

My company prohibits drinking on the job, but my co-workers and myself are still responsible enough to go to the local bar that has great burgers and not drink.

Don't for get pizza hut and states that sell beer in grocery stores. Hell the only thing cops should do is brown bag it. That is only way we can be sure that cops won't have alcohol.