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iTunes for Windows day 2: your impressions. (with poll)

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Like the programm, but can't use it because play list creation is sucky.
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Either you never kept up on yer ID3 tags or you are out of yer mind. 😉 Play list creation is a breeze and the smart play lists are awesome (and have an insane amount of flexiblity).


MartyTheManiak,

At least by US standards you like fringe/underground/not popular at all bands. No, that isn't a bash it's just the reality of the situation (I like almost every band you listed). At this stage in the game I would be surprised if any on-line music store carried any of those bands in quantites greater than slim-to-none. 😉 Apple is making deals w/more and more independent labels and hopefully Century Media will get on board sooner rather than later. Of course, I probably wouldn't download the trax even if they were for sale because I don't think Power Metal would sound good enough at such a low bit rate (even though a 128k AAC file should sound better than a 128k MP3). Too much layering of sounds and dynamic range to get squashed so small and still sound good, IMO. I'd rather buy the CD and rip it at a higher bitrate.

I used winamp for years but ditched it as soon as I started using iTunes on my Mac. Winamp is smaller and snappier, but I couldn't imagine trying to manage the nearly 3000 songs I have using winamp. And since I regularly rip new CDs it's just easier to insert the CD and let iTunes do the rest, IMO.


Lethal
 
Hmm, I wasn't sure what the big deal was but after hearing people rave about it I think I'll have to dl it tonight. Especially since I own an iPod.

Btw, ram isn't that expensive guys. Go get some more if you're that concerned about what your apps are using 😛
 
I don't get why people complain about it being such a huge resource hog. If you have iTunes, then you must be running win2000 or winXP meaning you must have a halfway decent enough PC. Yes, when fully open with the library and all it uses 30 megs of RAM, big deal its not as if you're going to go play a game with it open and have the library showing. If you have the library open then you're probably just surfing the net and have iTunes open and can spare the extra RAM.

Now, if you then go to play a game hit the Maximize/Restore button and make iTunes tiny - vwala, only uses 8 megs of RAM now, same amount as Winamp.
 
Originally posted by: DogFromDuckhunt
I don't get why people complain about it being such a huge resource hog. If you have iTunes, then you must be running win2000 or winXP meaning you must have a halfway decent enough PC. Yes, when fully open with the library and all it uses 30 megs of RAM, big deal its not as if you're going to go play a game with it open and have the library showing. If you have the library open then you're probably just surfing the net and have iTunes open and can spare the extra RAM.

Now, if you then go to play a game hit the Maximize/Restore button and make iTunes tiny - vwala, only uses 8 megs of RAM now, same amount as Winamp.
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I had it minimized, in the small mode, and the large window.. all still took 50mb. Besides, Winamp does what I want and it only uses 8mb.
 
Originally posted by: kuk
33MB memory hog ... no thanks.
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Last time I checked memory was pretty cheap these days. :|

Unless you are living in the stone age and still have your Pentium II 233mhz pc. 😱
 
I'm an apple user but iTunes was one of my last holdouts. I clinged to my Winamp and manual CD-ripping ways. iTunes is great once you commit yourself fully to its philosophy. There's no half-dabbling with it. You either get with the program and start ensuring ID3 tags are in place and such, or it becomes a terrible pain to use. I chose to get with the program and since my library was largely legitimate, I just re-ripped my CDs and got the ID3 tags for free, rather than manually enter them. Still, there were some MP3s for which I had no/improper ID3 tag info and I've taken some time out to manually enter them. It's worth it. So, I'm not surprised there's a love/hate relationship right now with iTunes. I suspect many of the haters will take a second look and end up liking it if they give it half a chance.
 
its just annoying that it wants to move all your mp3s into one directory. i don't have that much space on one partition😛
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its just annoying that it wants to move all your mp3s into one directory. i don't have that much space on one partition😛
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Didn't do that to me.

Also, how the heck do you display a small playlist when in 'minimized' mode? Media Jukebox had that ability (as well as the ability to display visualization effects and the EQ settings in mini-me mode.) And, I'm finding iTunes to be INCREDIBLY SLOW in responding to mouse clicks at varying times. It's chewing up a lot of RAM but there's plenty available as I don't have much running right now.

I think I'll go back to Media Jukebox.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
its just annoying that it wants to move all your mp3s into one directory. i don't have that much space on one partition😛
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On the Apple version there is an option in preferences called "Copy files to iTunes folder when adding to library". Leave this unchecked and you can have your MP3s anywere on any partition. iTunes will just add a reference to the file in its database.
 
I like iTunes but I am having problems with it being very slow. It is slow to start up and when it is open, it is very slow when I put it in the background and then try to bring it back into the foreground. There will be a slight delay as if the application has frozen when I try to click on it to bring it on top of other windows. Also when I put it into minimized mode and after a period of time, try to bring it back into the foreground, it'll take like 20 seconds for the program to unfreeze and maximize. Anyone know what's wrong?
 
Originally posted by: BamBam215
I like iTunes but I am having problems with it being very slow. It is slow to start up and when it is open, it is very slow when I put it in the background and then try to bring it back into the foreground. There will be a slight delay as if the application has frozen when I try to click on it to bring it on top of other windows. Also when I put it into minimized mode and after a period of time, try to bring it back into the foreground, it'll take like 20 seconds for the program to unfreeze and maximize. Anyone know what's wrong?
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Under Preferences>Effects, uncheck "Sound Check" if it is enabled. What that does is scan your MP3 files to check the level of their volume. When enabled, iTunes will playback all the songs with the same volume level so quieter MP3s are raised in volume and louder ones are lowered. It's a drag on resources though. I suspect that might be your problem.
 
My wife is thinking about using iTunes just to purchase single songs and burn them to CD for listenning on a regular CD player in her car.

We have Roxio 5 Platinum. How easy is it to write the songs to CD and what is the quality?

Any considerations or limitations?
 
If you don't have an iPod, you can go into administrative tools and disable the iPod service- it reduced the memory footprint by 10mb for me
 
It uses 50mb as you people may have the memory to do so. If I forced Windows XP to look at the system with only 256MB of memory (msconfig > boot.ini > advanced somewhere around there) , im sure that iTunes wouldnt be nearly as greedy and unused modules would be stuck in a paged pool (swap file) = would realistically use 5-10mb. This is the case for many apps, I find.
 
Originally posted by: Jetblade
Originally posted by: kuk
33MB memory hog ... no thanks.
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Last time I checked memory was pretty cheap these days. :|

Unless you are living in the stone age and still have your Pentium II 233mhz pc. 😱
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Memory isn't cheap where I live, and I have other needs.
 
It's so sweet in the dorms. I love it. But I get a memory error when I try to use the music store. The music can get jittery at times, all I have to do is pause/play to fix it tho.
 
Originally posted by: GL
Originally posted by: BamBam215
I like iTunes but I am having problems with it being very slow. It is slow to start up and when it is open, it is very slow when I put it in the background and then try to bring it back into the foreground. There will be a slight delay as if the application has frozen when I try to click on it to bring it on top of other windows. Also when I put it into minimized mode and after a period of time, try to bring it back into the foreground, it'll take like 20 seconds for the program to unfreeze and maximize. Anyone know what's wrong?
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Under Preferences>Effects, uncheck "Sound Check" if it is enabled. What that does is scan your MP3 files to check the level of their volume. When enabled, iTunes will playback all the songs with the same volume level so quieter MP3s are raised in volume and louder ones are lowered. It's a drag on resources though. I suspect that might be your problem.
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Nope. I already had Sound Check disabled but it's still slow. I would love to use this application but this slowdown is very annoying.
 
Hmmm... Some person is reporting conflicts with 3rd party packet writing software on Win 2000. Anyone run into this issue?

iTunes installed fine for me on Windows 2000 and Win XP, and both have 3rd party burning software installed. I haven't installed Roxio/Nero packetwriting software, but I have installed it for my Panasonic DVD-RAM drive. No problems.
 
My wife is thinking about using iTunes just to purchase single songs and burn them to CD for listenning on a regular CD player in her car.

We have Roxio 5 Platinum. How easy is it to write the songs to CD and what is the quality?
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iTunes already has built-in CD burning support. Easy as pie.

By the way for those of you asking about ogg, iTunes does support ogg if you get the ogg QuickTime plug-in. Works great. From another post by somebody else:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/qtcomponents/Win32-oggvorbis.zip?download

Put it in your quicktime extensions folder. (Usually C:\WINNT\system32\Quicktime)
 
Originally posted by: Eug
My wife is thinking about using iTunes just to purchase single songs and burn them to CD for listenning on a regular CD player in her car.

We have Roxio 5 Platinum. How easy is it to write the songs to CD and what is the quality?
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iTunes already has built-in CD burning support. Easy as pie.

By the way for those of you asking about ogg, iTunes does support ogg if you get the ogg QuickTime plug-in. Works great. From another post by somebody else:

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/qtcomponents/Win32-oggvorbis.zip?download

Put it in your quicktime extensions folder. (Usually C:\WINNT\system32\Quicktime)
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Eug, have you used the OS X version of this plug-in? If so, how well does it work?


Lethal
 
Originally posted by: GL
Originally posted by: BamBam215
I like iTunes but I am having problems with it being very slow. It is slow to start up and when it is open, it is very slow when I put it in the background and then try to bring it back into the foreground. There will be a slight delay as if the application has frozen when I try to click on it to bring it on top of other windows. Also when I put it into minimized mode and after a period of time, try to bring it back into the foreground, it'll take like 20 seconds for the program to unfreeze and maximize. Anyone know what's wrong?
Click to expand...

Under Preferences>Effects, uncheck "Sound Check" if it is enabled. What that does is scan your MP3 files to check the level of their volume. When enabled, iTunes will playback all the songs with the same volume level so quieter MP3s are raised in volume and louder ones are lowered. It's a drag on resources though. I suspect that might be your problem.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe the Sound Check function is a drag on resources at all, since it is not a function that constantly monitors file volume. When you first check the option, iTunes starts to analyze all your music files and determines a volume offset value for each song, then saves this value (I think) in its database. After that, it will simply use this volume offset to decide what volume to use for a certain song. This is what I observed, anyway. CPU usage is not different at all with or without Sound Check.
 
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