Originally posted by: Thump553
Originally posted by: Specop 007
What the hell.....
First Democrats want to raise taxes to give to the poor, and now they bitch about it?!
Oh Christ, the irony is killing me.
Heres a thought..... Maybe those dumbass Democrats should have put more thought into those social programs BEFORE ramming them down everyones throat rather then bitch about it afterwards.
As they say, you sleep in the bed you make. Enjoy it.
You totally distort the original post, and I don't think it is merely a matter of you didn't comprehend it. The premise of the original post, and the study it cites, is that Republican states are getting a disproportionate amount of the federal "largess." The people receiving the benefit of public monies are those that claim a philisophical repugnance of the "welfare state." Address THAT issue.
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I have noticed this time and time again, particularly among businessmen railing against welfare in one breath while in the next seeking tax breaks, subsidies, etc. from the government for their business.
Thats horseshit and you know it. NO ONE is gonna turn down free money. If you found $50 bucks on the ground would you walk away and hope the owner comes for it or pick it up?
Just because we dont want the money available doesnt mean we wont take it if its there to be had.
So the real issue is the Democrats wanted all these social programs and now want to bitch about where the money went.
The opposite side is the Republicans didnt want the programs but since they are available why not use them?
Granted, theres a whoooole bunch of generalizations there but if its going to come down to a simple "Red vs Blue" then generalize I shall.
Addressing the issue in other ways is difficult as the link in the OP doesnt load for me. Without knowing where the money is spent I really cant answer any questions on it.
But I'll take a stab with some assumptions and such.
In regards to ag subsidies, people sure like to bitch about all that money the farmers get. Well, trust me when I say this, farmers have been getting a raw deal for decades. Not years, decades. Now, how many times in recent years have you heard everyone bitch about the price of food. Milk has went up for example, and quite a bit. You get 2 choices my friend. Subsidies or high priced food. Subsidies keep a small portion of the populance bitching. High priced food, EVERYONE bitches.
Same with gas prices. People like to bitch about all that money Big Oil gets, then again they probably dont realize how costly it is to go get that oil. I certainly dont see any lines forming for people to go drill their own oil, do you?
Now again, thats just 2 aspects. Without seeing where the money is spent its difficult to address the issue.