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Lifer
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people who voted for trump didn't make it publicly known.

i had a feeling that is how it would happen.

That and probably polls are colored by people they manage to reach, the types who actually bother to respond to these things, and other psychological et al. factors that statistics can't or doesn't account for.

Same goes for economics.
 

shady28

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Apr 11, 2004
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So you're hoping it's a Dewey Wins moment?

Damn, but do I hope you're right even with the flack I'd catch from the establishment shills who were masturbating to pictures of $Hillary


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Just being a realist. Razor thin margins in NH, MI, and PA. Less so in WI but it's conceivable it could flip. IF all 4 flipped, HRC wins. If trump wins WI (very likely now) and any of the other 3, he wins. If the 3 with close margins go HRC, it's a tie. But the odds grealy favor Trump at this point. He only needs one of them. I'm amazed at how close these are. NH has been flipping for the past 15 minutes with vote differences in the hundreds.
 

blankslate

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Jun 16, 2008
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The upside for Dems is that the Trump dog caught the car.

He clearly has no idea what he's doing, plans are less than paper thin, and he's made absurd and impossible promises he has to keep.

It also spares the dems from defending in 2020, which can set the next decade. Just need to survive the next four.

There is also a clear message that obstruction works. You got cheated out of a scotus pick. Take the gloves off and punch them back 10x harder.

Trump is a rich target for investigation. He's gotten a pass in this fucked up election, time to tear him apart.

The status quo is fine. There are no burning issues (unlike 2008) so getting nothing done is just fine. Dems own nothing, si are accountable for nothing. Destroy Trump and build up for 2020.

Well aside from the likely couple of SCOTUS picks he'll have that's a hopeful analysis I can feel better about.

Perhaps the democratic members in the Senate can play the obstruction game... but can they play the propaganda game and make their obstruction seem principled like the republicans (imo) have convinced much of America that theirs is?


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agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
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She wasn't going to win them anyway. Trump performed where Romney did not and Hillary lost where Obama had commanding leads.

They were just talking on CNN about how millions of Obama voters will have had to have voted Trump for the numbers to make sense.

The common theme is not of race but of change. Sanders understood this. This is a huge wake up call to the political insiders and eliticist who thought they were so smart.

The margins of this election are a separate issue to the core of conservative support. However as mentioned, neither mccain nor romney hit anti-hispanic/muslim/thug and jingoism nearly as hard as trump. They would've done much better had they, and that's something neither establishment party wanted to believe. That's why he handily beat the primary opposition, because even establishment republicans are modernizing at a rate the lowest common denominator found unbearable.
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Clinton did better in Arizona than I expected and Johnson did worse. Both the Rs and Ds seem to have been able to maintain party discipline and keep defections low.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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James Carlisle is criticizing weak dems.
He said its a catastrophe right now.
The GOP controls most governors and state legislation, will soon control both the House and Senate, and now the Oval Office.
He says its a nightmare for Democrats.
 

master_shake_

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Just being a realist. Razor thin margins in NH, MI, and PA. Less so in WI but it's conceivable it could flip. IF all 4 flipped, HRC wins. If trump wins WI (very likely now) and any of the other 3, he wins. If the 3 with close margins go HRC, it's a tie. But the odds grealy favor Trump at this point. He only needs one of them. I'm amazed at how close these are. NH has been flipping for the past 15 minutes with vote differences in the hundreds.

CNN went through blue counties in PA they are all at 100 percent reporting.

there's probably no chance Hillary will take it.
 

flexy

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Sep 28, 2001
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She's 70 now... she might have a shot in 2020, but that'd be pushing it.

Barring a surprise recovery for Clinton, the main consolation: Trump could ironically increase Democrat chances of regaining some control of Congress in 2018. Depends on just how much Trump's inexperience and ego hurts his party.

How can you say she would have a shot? Didn't people SPEAK CLEARLY right this very instant what they want? They are tired of establishment politics. Clinton is toast. She is.
 

blankslate

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Jun 16, 2008
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Just being a realist. Razor thin margins in NH, MI, and PA. Less so in WI but it's conceivable it could flip. IF all 4 flipped, HRC wins. If trump wins WI (very likely now) and any of the other 3, he wins. If the 3 with close margins go HRC, it's a tie. But the odds grealy favor Trump at this point. He only needs one of them. I'm amazed at how close these are. NH has been flipping for the past 15 minutes with vote differences in the hundreds.

Well, I'll take it if it happens that way.

Right now I'm deciding what to drink tonight and what excuse to use to call out tomorrow.


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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Did Tarantino script the vote counting tonight? Trump up, Clinton up, Trump up, ...
 

HTFOff

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Oct 3, 2013
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At least you guys got a couple concerts and a moving POTUS speech, right?

Jesus H. this is pathetic. Time to take inventory, dems.
 

Svnla

Lifer
Nov 10, 2003
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Latest count - Trump needs 26 to win, Hillary needs 55 to win. Trump is leading in 5 tossed up states. You do the math.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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So since this election was super close, when can we expect trump to come out and claim the election was rigged?
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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James Carlisle is criticizing weak dems.
He said its a catastrophe right now.
The GOP controls most governors and state legislation, will soon control both the House and Senate, and now the Oval Office.
He says its a nightmare for Democrats.

he is 100% correct, the Democrats got crushed tonight and they didn't see it coming. It is actually embarrassing.